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I pretty much believe that most suicides go to hell. But when I hear of children--tweens and teens, committing suicide, it's even more sad, imagining a kid in hell. What do you think on this issue? Sad because they think they're ending their pain, but their pain ends up becoming magnified by 1 million for eternity...
 

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I believe that if a person Believes Jesus and trusts 100% in the atonement He secured for the forgiveness of their sins,, They will be forgiven all their sins and they shall have eternal life with God in His perfect existence...
 
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I don't know whether suicides "go to hell" or not. It's difficult for me to reconcile the will to commit suicide with having saving faith, but I avoid such definitive statements about goes to hell and who doesn't.
 
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No one has been judged yet. That's for a time in the future.

Those kids will come up in the second resurrection during the millennial rule of Christ, and be given God's spirit. All will be ok.
 
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I don't think suicide will get you to hell (this is purely my opinion only!)

The context of sin in the Bible (again, my opinion) is about being at fault for causing evil.

People who commit suicide, obviously, there's another factor that caused them to do such act. Those who did, directly or indirectly are very much at fault with their suicides. Suicide victims are probably not at fault with the act.

Finally, if someone committed suicide because their whole life has been one horror and struggle after another goes to hell while another lived to be 90's had mostly good life, problems are relatively petty and they go to heaven when they die. Is that justice? :)
 
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I have always believed that a suicidal spirit is unnatural and of the enemy (Lucifer).Because God gives life and if we serve Him He will grant to us the fruits of the spirit which don't include self murder.The fruits of the spirit include joy,peace and self control.These are all good and healthy things. Most people who self murder are unhappy in some way.Unhappiness isn't one of the fruits of the spirit that we receive from our God.And neither is the desire to self murder. Now if the enemy convinces someone to kill themselves then he has won and more than likely that person will end up with Lucifer.In torment.
 
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I pretty much believe that most suicides go to hell. But when I hear of children--tweens and teens, committing suicide, it's even more sad, imagining a kid in hell. What do you think on this issue? Sad because they think they're ending their pain, but their pain ends up becoming magnified by 1 million for eternity...

I pretty much do too, and yes Ma'am, it's really sad. Not sure what all positive I can post here. I don't like to think about it too much, nor do I think He wants us to for very long (Philippians 4:8).
 
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I don't think suicide will get you to hell (this is purely my opinion only!)

The context of sin in the Bible (again, my opinion) is about being at fault for causing evil.

People who commit suicide, obviously, there's another factor that caused them to do such act. Those who did, directly or indirectly are very much at fault with their suicides. Suicide victims are probably not at fault with the act.

Finally, if someone committed suicide because their whole life has been one horror and struggle after another goes to hell while another lived to be 90's had mostly good life, problems are relatively petty and they go to heaven when they die. Is that justice? :)
So, according to your logic....it is best for one to accept Jesus, get saved and then kill themselves, correct? to avoid backsliding and ending up in torment or to skip the pains of life.......and get a free trip to heaven?
 
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God is Good, and God is love. Torture is not the fruit of Love. If something doesnt make since to you, then you should look into it....maybe it isnt true. The Pharisee were masters of the word....knew it back and forth....yet they had it so mixed up that their father was the devil when they thought they were serving God. Maybe it is possible we could mix things up as well.
 
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Suicide is mercy killing of oneself. Murder is malicious killing of another. I'm sure that God knows the difference.
God knows the difference. Which is why we should allow Him to call us home when it's our time instead of doing it ourselves.Now as to murder..we really don't know if that's in our future or not.I mean a person could just be shopping in a store or walking home from school and bang!! You're dead. Whereas it's that person's choice under the influence of a powerful demonic spirit to prematurely and wilfully end the gift of life that God has given them.I won't go any further because my belief may not mesh up with yours about this subject and I don't want to start any arguments. Peace.
 
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The Bible says "Do not murder". Suiciding is self murder and so I believe those who commit suicide will end up in hell. We need to talk to our children regarding such issues. Nowadays youngsters can't take anything. They need to have everything go their way. Too much luxury I believe.
 
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Luther was one of the first prominent theologians to teach that people that commit suicide should not be deprived of a Christian burial. He taught that suicidal people were not necessarily responsible for their actions. He regarded them as mentally ill.

Before Luther, and up until the last few decades, it was common in Catholic churches for people to commit suicide to be denied burial on holy ground, as it was believed they had committed a deadly sin.
 
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God help me put into words what I "feel" in my heart in Jesus name, Amen. :prayer:

I greatly fear even putting this out there, because I do not want anyone to think or feel they can adopt this thought as an excuse of suicide being ok, DO NOT.

I have been around many that have committed this act and been a testimony of what it seemed to be their reasons. And there are multiple factors to make this equal. EXAMPLE: (Mary Ellen) Teenage girl, junior high, depressed, not popular, good grades, helps her mom clean, cook and take care of younger siblings, living in single trailer, mom works all the time, mom married a man (3rd husband), Mary Ellen found her father at the age of 5 hanging in the closet of her neat beautiful innocent life, sat on the floor crying for many hours until mama finally came home to the horror, moms 2nd husband sexually abused her when mom wasn't home, mom didn't believe her and called her trash, 3rd husband now drinks all the time sitting on the couch watching things that destroy a child's mind, doesn't work, and when mom is not home, he feels at liberty to fondle MaryEllens little brother and sister, she tries to stop him by offering her 13 yr old body to him, so that her siblings will not be in pain as she was at that age, MaryEllen feels like her father killing himself when she was 5 was her fault because she wasn't a good girl, so as she takes her own life on FB live she apologizes to her dead father for not being good, and she apologizes to everyone for being such a looser and making everyone sad, she records herself putting the rope in the tree and then kicks the bucket from neath her feet and sways back n forth in the summer evening until her mother comes home to see her dead body swaying.

Now I offer this picture, can I relate to this pain? No
Can God understand this girls pain? Yes
Was it fair? No

God knows the heart. God knows what people are going thru and I BELIEVE their death is accountable to others just as much as it is to her. We cannot judge, we do not know, many people die with secrets within that nobody could ever understand because we as a people did not parent them, teach them, extend a helping hand, comfort them, dry their tears, we failed them. We go about our busy lives and turn away from those that are hurting, so I fully believe every second of our life is taken into account as to the lives we pass by every single day.

We do not know what Gods measuring stick looks like, His scales of mercy do not look like our scales. I cannot imagine the amount of pain a person must be enduring to take their own life, it has to be the deepest darkest pit. To want your pain to end that much. Let God decide the heaven or hell. But let us decide to reach out and stop slamming doors shut because we don't have time to care.

If He knows a sparrow hits the ground, He will definitely know if we passed by someone that needed us and HE was trying to reach them thru us.

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God knows the difference. Which is why we should allow Him to call us home when it's our time instead of doing it ourselves.Now as to murder..we really don't know if that's in our future or not.I mean a person could just be shopping in a store or walking home from school and bang!! You're dead. Whereas it's that person's choice under the influence of a powerful demonic spirit to prematurely and wilfully end the gift of life that God has given them.I won't go any further because my belief may not mesh up with yours about this subject and I don't want to start any arguments. Peace.

No problem. There are many opinions on this subject.
 
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I don't understand what that passage has to do with this thread.

It means that suicide isn't an unforgivable sin as many believe.
 
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God help me put into words what I "feel" in my heart in Jesus name, Amen. :prayer:

I greatly fear even putting this out there, because I do not want anyone to think or feel they can adopt this thought as an excuse of suicide being ok, DO NOT.

I have been around many that have committed this act and been a testimony of what it seemed to be their reasons. And there are multiple factors to make this equal. EXAMPLE: (Mary Ellen) Teenage girl,

Scripture informs me that God does take what we know about Him into account when He judges us.
 
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