Do all humans come from Africa?

[Dwight55]

Evolution is a crock, . . . there is absolutely ZERO evidence of it's possibility, much less probability. On the other hand, there IS A WRITTEN HISTORY BOOK that has dates, times, places, names, . . . and can be easily understood to be THE history of this world, . . . unless of course one wants to substitute written history with witchcraft, supposition, "don't you think?", hopefulness, ideas, mebbe, and some other thoughts. The Bible makes it plain that the age of our human race is right at 6000 years, . . . the first men who landed on the moon proved the universe is not older than 8000 years.

Give up on the "learned" professors, . . . remember, they are the ones who crucified Christ.

 

[Dwight55]

Evolution is a crock, . . . there is absolutely ZERO evidence of it's possibility, much less probability. On the other hand, there IS A WRITTEN HISTORY BOOK that has dates, times, places, names, . . . and can be easily understood to be THE history of this world, . . . unless of course one wants to substitute written history with witchcraft, supposition, "don't you think?", hopefulness, ideas, mebbe, and some other thoughts. The Bible makes it plain that the age of our human race is right at 6000 years, . . . the first men who landed on the moon proved the universe is not older than 8000 years.

Give up on the "learned" professors, . . . remember, they are the ones who crucified Christ.

 

[JackRT]

Dwight --- you can say that again. But it doesn't make it true. However, I do accept that it is your sincere belief.

 

[marineimaging]

Just a little bit of a distraction here. Jesus looked like every other Jew of the day. His body was the same, skin color, eyes, hair. There was nothing distinctly different because if there were, people would have believed in him as the messiah because of that feature or for that reason. "Look, he as blue eyes or golden hair so he MUST be special." That fact would have diminished His purpose. When he approached John to be baptized it was a normal man in a crowd of normal people. When his flesh was ripped from his bones they were all the same color white bones and the same color red blood as everybody else. Nothing physical about him to cause someone to believe on his appearance was out of place.

 

[Blade]

I recently accepted that Jesus the Christ was in fact middle eastern and not Caucasian like the pictures that some churches have of Jesus. Which leads me to the study of my origins as a white person.

Then I was reading in the Human article on wikipedia Human - Wikipedia and I saw under the illustration slightly down on the page the "human timeline" that homoerectus or homohabilis migrated from Africa.

So if I am to accept some sort of mixture between creationism and evolution, than also does that illustration mean that all humans are from Africa also? So that although I'm not African my ancestors are from Africa at some point?

Time to shake.. did you know they found OLDER bones in China then in Africa. Means nothing to me.. the garden is EASY to find out WHERE it was and ..it was not in Africa

 

[kiwimac]

This is one of the problems. Truth (Creationism, as defined by the Bible) does not mix with the fantasy of Darwinian evolution. A Christian cannot accept both of these doctrines. One is true while the other is false.

All humans descended through Adam and Eve, then Noah and his family. Out of the what is now considered the Middle East, not Africa.

Multiple human "races" is one of the lies of evolution. Differing skin pigmentation does not mean that there are different human "races". The is only one human race. Man uses the thought of multiple human "races" to continue to promote his or her prejudices and bigotry.

No, sorry neither the DNA nor the physical evidence support your contentions.

 

[Waggles]

The first 3 books of genesis?

No they don't. Genesis One is a different creation to Genesis Two.
Read post # 15

 

[zoidar]

Excavations do not reveal skin colour.

Visions do

 

[JackRT]

No they don't. Genesis One is a different creation to Genesis Two.
Read post # 15

Those are chapters not books. The chapters were added about 1500 years after Genesis was redacted. Verses came a few centuries later. But you are right that Genesis 1 and Genesis 2ff had different authors and were written about a century apart with Genesis 1 being the last written.

 

[A_Thinker]

Visions do

John's vision ??? Hair like WOOL and feet the color of BRASS ???

Revelation 1

12 I turned to see who was talking to me. When I turned, I saw seven golden lampstands. 13 I saw someone among the lampstands who looked like the Son of Man. He was dressed in a long robe, with a golden sash tied around his chest. 14 His head and hair were white like wool—wool that is white as snow. His eyes were like flames of fire. 15 His feet were like brass that glows hot in a furnace.

 

[JackRT]

John's vision ??? Hair like WOOL and feet the color of BRASS ???

Revelation 1

12 I turned to see who was talking to me. When I turned, I saw seven golden lampstands. 13 I saw someone among the lampstands who looked like the Son of Man. He was dressed in a long robe, with a golden sash tied around his chest. 14 His head and hair were white like wool—wool that is white as snow. His eyes were like flames of fire. 15 His feet were like brass that glows hot in a furnace.

Sounds like a bad Hollywood movie. Or a nightmare.

 

[Acts2:38]

Those are chapters not books. The chapters were added about 1500 years after Genesis was redacted. Verses came a few centuries later. But you are right that Genesis 1 and Genesis 2ff had different authors and were written about a century apart with Genesis 1 being the last written.

Only one author I am aware of which is Moses. In fact Moses did the first five books you see in the old testament Gen/Ex/Lev/Num/Deu. Moses did all of those except for possible the very last chapter or less in Deu. which is thought to be written by Joshua.

 

[JackRT]

Only one author I am aware of which is Moses. In fact Moses did the first five books you see in the old testament Gen/Ex/Lev/Num/Deu. Moses did all of those except for possible the very last chapter or less in Deu. which is thought to be written by Joshua.

That falls into the legend category. Bible scholarship paints a different picture. Most modern bible scholars believe that Moses did not write the Torah. Based on their quite different writing styles and use of vocabulary, at least five authors (J,E,P,D and R) have been tentatively identified . "J" used Jehovah exclusively for God and may have been a person, perhaps a woman, in the court of Solomon about 950 BC. "E" used Elohim for God and wrote in the Northern Kingdom about 200 years later. "P" was concerned primarily with ritual and were probably priests writing during the Exile. "D" wrote the entire book of Deuteronomy about 625 BC. "R" were the redactors or editors who cobbled it all together. This whole process took place over some 500 years.

 

[Acts2:38]

That falls into the legend category. Bible scholarship paints a different picture. Most modern bible scholars believe that Moses did not write the Torah. Based on their quite different writing styles and use of vocabulary, at least five authors (J,E,P,D and R) have been tentatively identified . "J" used Jehovah exclusively for God and may have been a person, perhaps a woman, in the court of Solomon about 950 BC. "E" used Elohim for God and wrote in the Northern Kingdom about 200 years later. "P" was concerned primarily with ritual and were probably priests writing during the Exile. "D" wrote the entire book of Deuteronomy about 625 BC. "R" were the redactors or editors who cobbled it all together. This whole process took place over some 500 years.

Interesting. I never heard of that. Links, evidence, authors that refute moses as writer please?

Ive read those books many times and not once did I notice different writing styles. I think its like the last 8? verses that are Joshua. There is a plethora of evidence for that. Not once have I seen what your talking about. I'd have to see/look into this.

 

[JackRT]

Interesting. I never heard of that. Links, evidence, authors that refute moses as writer please?

Ive read those books many times and not once did I notice different writing styles. I think its like the last 8? verses that are Joshua. There is a plethora of evidence for that. Not once have I seen what your talking about. I'd have to see/look into this.

That astonishes me since it is about a century (or more) old and is accepted by almost every first rate bible scholar.

 

[Acts2:38]

That astonishes me since it is about a century (or more) old and is accepted by almost every first rate bible scholar.

It was a tiny bit hard to spot but I found some people that say this and was reading it. So far I really cannot take their word for it.

Why?

Because one of their reasons for believing it was different writers is that they say it has contradictions in the first five books. My friend, the bible does not have any contradictions. These scholars are laughable at best.

However, I will keep reading to see what they say.

 

[Waggles]

Bible scholarship paints a different picture. Most modern bible scholars believe that Moses did not write the Torah.

That is simply unbelief. Unbelieving people are always seeking to discredit the holy scriptures.
But Jesus declares that the word of God, our 66 books of holy scriptures from Genesis to Revelation,
are true and complete.
This can be determined through good and proper Bible study, revelation, and Bible Numerics.
God would not deliver to humankind a faulty book that contained errors of history and salvation.

The Bible is true. Evolution is rubbish and fanciful.

 

[Waggles]

You know something, when I accepted that Jesus the Christ was middle eastern

Of course, Jesus and the Jews are Middle-Eastern; but that doesn't make him and them black peoples.
The Middle-East is not populated by Negroid race of people. Persians, Arabs and Jews share much with
European races.
People did not evolve out of Africa. Jesus created the peoples of this world. We are just below angels in the
scheme of things are are destined for the eternities (either with God or not).

Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots? then may ye also do good, that are accustomed to do evil. Jeremiah 13:23
Peoples outside of Africa knew of black skinned or Negroid peoples and referred to them as Ethiopians,
in respect to the most common location and interaction with such. Ethiopia south of Egypt.

 

[Waggles]

Factual evidence is one of the trademarks of the evolution of science today.

200 years after Darwin and there is still no factual evidence for evolution.
No one can show me real tangible evidence to demonstrate evolution. Prove beyond doubt how life arises
from non life; the organic from the inorganic.
Show me the evolution of lungs, eyes, kidneys, livers, nervous system, digestion, blood, skeleton, etc.
all developing in harmony together for a final masterpiece, us.

Evolution is always artists illustrations in books because there is no real evidence to photograph nor to
place in display cabinets in museums. It is speculation and wishful thinking at best.

Creation can be plainfully seen and understood in all detailed observation of the natural world and the
universe. Design, engineering, mathematics, insight into the Spiritual.
Best of all people can have a personal relationship with God the Father through Jesus, God the Son,
by the indwelling Holy Spirit. There is no place for atheistic nonsense about evolution in this truth.
I can experience miracles, healings, divine provision, revelation, answered prayer.
What do Darwinists have?

 

[kiwimac]

Of course evolution is how God created all that is. There is plenty of evidence for it, if you are not willfully ignorant.