Can you be a Christian and reject certain parts of the Bible?

[Rev. Thomas]

That's a fictional number. Some people use even higher numbers than that.
The 33,000 Denominations Myth - Alpha and Omega Ministries

Even if 33,000 is a fictional number, the Roman Church continues to break into pieces as churches split over claims of "false doctrine" almost every day.

 

[Achilles6129]

I don't think God is behind it, The times does. I know God is not behind that kind of division. God wants us all to be in unity on one accord.

There are passages that support your point of view:

"19 These are the ones who cause divisions, [r]worldly-minded, devoid of the Spirit." Jude 19

I personally agree with you, at least to a certain point. I don't see why the Holy Spirit would be divided. I certainly think that there are areas where two Spirit-filled individuals can disagree (see Paul/Barnabas, Paul/Peter) but certainly I would think those disagreements would be minor. It certainly wouldn't be something as major as what the Protestant/Catholic churches are divided about.

 

[Aldebaran]

Even if 33,000 is a fictional number, the Roman Church continues to break into pieces as churches split over claims of "false doctrine" almost every day.

From the things I hear from the Catholic church, I can understand why. But to know the truth, a person only needs to pick up a bible themselves and read it to know what it actually says. Too many people simply listen to what a priest says and that's it.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

Can you be a Christian and only believe some parts of the Bible? For example, can you reject a global Noah's Flood, a six-day creation, a literal exodus, etc.? Could you reject other parts as well, like Christ walking on water? Discuss.

I wouldn't say that I "reject" some parts of the Bible. Even though I personally believe Evolution to be true and that the Garden of Eden story is representational narrative, descriptively poetic in nature but still prophetically polemical, doesn't mean that my overall theology isn't still in the realm of orthodoxy and traditional Christian thought. I still firmly believe that God is Sovereign, that Jesus was God become man, crucified, literally resurrected and is Lord of all, by the power of the God the Holy Spirit.

I think we need to be careful with the use of the term "reject," because to me to reject means to not only not accept some idea but to also to repudiate it as being completely false, erroneous, and grievously unneeded.

However, in the case of the Garden of Eden story, I do believe that we have a revelation which imparts-- in poetic terms--the origination and state of humanity before God, our Creator. I'm not rejecting that God is the Creator or that humanity is in a state of fallenness before Him and in need of redemption.

 

[Rev. Thomas]

From the things I hear from the Catholic church, I can understand why. But to know the truth, a person only needs to pick up a bible themselves and read it to know what it actually says. Too many people simply listen to what a priest says and that's it.

It's actually Protestant Churches, which originally split off the Roman Church, who keep fighting with each other and splitting up.

lol

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

It's actually Protestant Churches, which originally split off the Roman Church, who keep fighting with each other and splitting up. ...

GOOD ! THANK YOU !
No reason for them to stay, eh?

(it is GOOD they split: a blessing!)

 

[Bob Carabbio]

So it's not OK if the gospels contain error, but it is OK if other parts of the Bible contain error?

ALL Printed Bibles CONTAIN ERRORS of editing, of fact, and ARE NOT PERFECT in that sense. However that's relatively unimportant. The Holy Spirit WILL NOT empower/energise what He didn't say, and the rest is just "academic theology".

 

[Aldebaran]

It's actually Protestant Churches, which originally split off the Roman Church, who keep fighting with each other and splitting up.

lol

I'm not sure it's the churches fighting with each other as it is a difference in opinion and values of different people within them. People seem to care about different things. Some think the emphasis should be on praise and worship, so they form a church that's big on music and singing. Another one places emphasis on studying and understanding the bible, and there's a church for that. I've seen arguments for pretty much every viewpoint (at least until I hear a new one!) that places an emphasis on something. It could be about which day to get together on, what foods to eat, or on which member of the Trinity is most important. But at the same time, I've seen what the Catholic church focuses on, and my copy of the bible seems to be clearly at odds with that particular denomination.

 

[HowdyDave@]

ABSOLUTELY...

Most Western Christians already reject a good chunk of the Bible which they conglomerate into what they call "APOCRYPHAL WRITINGS"...

e.g.; Tobit, Judith, 1, 2, & 3 Maccabees, Wisdom of Solomon, Wisdom of Sirach, and Baruch.

These books were all a part of the Septuagint which Jesus read. He even quoted several of these books in the gospels.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Most Western Christians already reject a good chunk of the Bible ......

So sorry. Men did not decide -
no.
GOD IS IN CHARGE, GUARDING HIS OWN WORD.
What HE rejects, we(all who abide in HIM) reject also .

 

[HighwayMan]

Of course.

I do not believe that any one denomination has the perfect truth when it comes to interpreting the Bible. And in fact, I disagree on important things with pretty much all mainstream denominations. But, I'm sure I can be wrong about important things as well.

The trouble comes when people think "no, you must believe the whole Bible, and let me tell you why my denomination is right about it". I mean, you are free to explain your stance, but after 2,000 years of division, it really does not seem that one denomination is going to suddenly convince all others that they are right and all others are wrong.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

QUOTE="HighwayMan"]The trouble comes when people think "no, you must believe the whole Bible, and let me tell you why my denomination is right about it". I mean, you are free to explain your stance, but after 2,000 years of division, it really does not seem that one denomination is going to suddenly convince all others that they are right and all others are wrong.[/QUOTE

It seems you already realize GOD says NOT TO TRUST MEN.
GOOD.

Trust GOD. HE is FAITHFUL, TRUE, and LIFE_GIVING. (and JUDGE!)

 

[Tina W]

What if a person gets angry when driving, curses, and gets into an accident? Would they go to hell?

ABSOLUTELY...

Most Western Christians already reject a good chunk of the Bible which they conglomerate into what they call "APOCRYPHAL WRITINGS"...

e.g.; Tobit, Judith, 1, 2, & 3 Maccabees, Wisdom of Solomon, Wisdom of Sirach, and Baruch.

These books were all a part of the Septuagint which Jesus read. He even quoted several of these books in the gospels.

Exactly!

 

[Rev. Thomas]

I'm not sure it's the churches fighting with each other as it is a difference in opinion and values of different people within them. People seem to care about different things. Some think the emphasis should be on praise and worship, so they form a church that's big on music and singing. Another one places emphasis on studying and understanding the bible, and there's a church for that. I've seen arguments for pretty much every viewpoint (at least until I hear a new one!) that places an emphasis on something. It could be about which day to get together on, what foods to eat, or on which member of the Trinity is most important. But at the same time, I've seen what the Catholic church focuses on, and my copy of the bible seems to be clearly at odds with that particular denomination.

In my experience, those churches who put more emphasis on being correct, split apart.

While those who put their emphasis on loving God and neighbor do not split apart.

The splits seem more about self-righteousness than anything else..

I'm not sure it's the churches fighting with each other as it is a difference in opinion and values of different people within them. People seem to care about different things. Some think the emphasis should be on praise and worship, so they form a church that's big on music and singing. Another one places emphasis on studying and understanding the bible, and there's a church for that. I've seen arguments for pretty much every viewpoint (at least until I hear a new one!) that places an emphasis on something. It could be about which day to get together on, what foods to eat, or on which member of the Trinity is most important. But at the same time, I've seen what the Catholic church focuses on, and my copy of the bible seems to be clearly at odds with that particular denomination.

 

[S.O.J.I.A.]

if you reject the things God says you are calling Him a lier or at the very least someone who is mistaken.

 

[Rev. Thomas]

if you reject the things God says you are calling Him a lier or at the very least someone who is mistaken.

if you reject the things God says you are calling Him a lier or at the very least someone who is mistaken.

The Bible is not God.

The Bible itself says it was written by men, about their experiences of God...

Inspiration does not equate with perfection.

Those who confuse God with the Bible engage in a form of Idolatry.

 

[S.O.J.I.A.]

The Bible is not God.

The Bible itself says it was written by men, about their experiences of God...

Inspiration does not equate with perfection.

Those who confuse God with the Bible engage in a form of Idolatry.

the bible is inspired by God and are, in fact, His Words.

Hebrews 1:1-2
2 peter 1:20-21
2 timothy 3:16-17

 

[Monna]

Sometimes you will find passages that are very difficult to reconcile completely...
Read Joshua chapter 10, looking specifically at what happens to Hebron, its king and people.

In v 26 Joshua killed the king of Hebron, along with 4 other kings.

After that we have a day by day account of Joshua's campaign against the 5 cities.

In v 36-37 "
And Joshua went up from Eglon, and all Israel with him, unto Hebron; and they fought against it:

And they took it, and smote it with the edge of the sword, and the king thereof, and all the cities thereof, and all the souls that were therein; he left none remaining, according to all that he had done to Eglon; but destroyed it utterly, and all the souls that were therein.

In chapter 14: 12-13 Caleb comes to Joshua asking for the right to conquer Hebron with surroudings, and have it as his inheritance. Joshua gives him this right...

12 Now therefore give me this mountain, whereof the Lord spake in that day; for thou heardest in that day how the Anakims were there, and that the cities were great and fenced: if so be the Lord will be with me, then I shall be able to drive them out, as the Lord said.

13 And Joshua blessed him, and gave unto Caleb the son of Jephunneh Hebron for an inheritance.

So the king of Hebron was killed twice by Joshua (within days), and the city was wiped out totally once by Joshua and also conquered and its inhabitants driven out by Caleb.

Which account do you reject, or alternatively accept?

 

[Rev. Thomas]

the bible is inspired by God and are, in fact, His Words.

Hebrews 1:1-2
2 peter 1:20-21
2 timothy 3:16-17

Being inspired by God does not mean it's God's Word... It means it's your words inspired by God.

Bible worship is a sickness. It's not of God.

 

[S.O.J.I.A.]

Being inspired by God does not mean it's God's Word... It means it's your words inspired by God.

Bible worship is a sickness. It's not of God.

inspiration in this context refers to God putting His Words in those who wrote Scripture. read all 3 passages I gave you.

no one worships the bible. that's a canard. We worship the True and Living God who Inspired His apostles and Prophets to pen His Word.