Can you be a Christian and reject certain parts of the Bible?

[The Times]

No, you don't speak for the majority of anything, you only speak for yourself.

lol

From your statement, you implied that I do and so in this regard I agree with your unwitting admission.

This is what you said......

"There are over 20,000 denominations because of that kind of thinking."

That kind of thinking is Holy Ghost inspired friend. This means that diversity is unity in Christ, because the enemies of the cross can never force all faithful under the one controlling umbrella of ecclesiastical authority.

All roads WILL NEVER lead to Rome!

 

[The Times]

There are 20,000 denominations because they can't agree with each other and so they keep splitting apart. Seriously... Almost all of them are due to arguments and splits where each side claimed to speak for the Holy Spirit and for God.... lol

This is a LOL in the face of the enemies of Christ who want his sheep to conform and fall under the one ecclesiatical umbrella of control. Mark my words it will never happen and in this respect....

All roads will NEVER lead to Rome!

 

[Tina W]

From your statement, you implied that I do and so in this regard I agree with your unwitting admission.

This is what you said......

"There are over 20,000 denominations because of that kind of thinking."

That kind of thinking is Holy Ghost inspired friend. This means that diversity is unity in Christ, because the enemies of the cross can never force all faithful under the one controlling umbrella of ecclesiastical authority.

All roads WILL NEVER lead to Rome!

Wow I can't believe you are saying God is the author of so much chaos and confusion. Especially when considering denominations like Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons who don't even believe the same things. What about Jim Jones type cults, do you believe God authored those too? There is strength in UNITY and being on one accord, not in a lot of division. A house divided against itself cannot stand. Jesus said that. Or is that one of the things you don't believe is true in the Bible?

 

[The Times]

Wow I can't believe you are saying God is the author of so much chaos and confusion. Especially when considering denominations like Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons who don't even believe the same things. What about Jim Jones type cults, do you believe God authored those too? There is strength in UNITY and being on one accord, not in a lot of division. A house divided against itself cannot stand. Jesus said that. Or is that one of the things you don't believe is true in the Bible?

What may seem chaos and confusion to you, me and others is not to our Lord and saviour.

We are in times of war, ever since the inquisitions and the infiltration of the Church by the enemies of the cross of Christ.

Jesus is behind this strategy to diversify his body of believers, through many denominations. Offcourse amongst those are also counterfeits, which the Lord knows about too. If we know of Mormons and JWs then the Lord knows those that we don't know like liberals and so forth.

I know it seems overwhelming to contemplate, but Christ is in control of his body. Many ask why so many denominations and the simple answer is the controlling head of the church has strategically through schisms made it that way to make it harder for the infiltrating enemy to subjugate the entire flock under the one ecclesiastical controlling umbrella.

If we look at how Rome is trying to do this with not only Christianity but also the other false religions, it should serve as a warning that two sides are playing. Jesus certainly doesn't want a single mega religiois institution that falls under the one controlling umbrella.

Just to understand the mind of Jesus when the disciples saw others using his name they were compelled to stop them because they were not with their group or denomination, yet Jesus in his strategic mindset said don't do that for if they are not against us, they are for us. We immediately see Jesus here encouraging multiple denominations outside of the 1st century discipleship. This means that since we are at war, the number of denominations is a safe guard to resist the deception of the enemy from within who tries to subjugate the entire congregation within the one controlling umbrella.

 

[Rev. Thomas]

There is a great difference between a parable to teach a lesson and fiction. Jesus never used fiction in the sense of lying.



Jesus is the Logos, the Living Word. The Bible is word of God, as in absolute truth.

2 Timothy 3:16-17 ESV All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, (17) that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work.

Fiction can also God inspired. That was my point. Thanks!

 

[Rev. Thomas]

Wow I can't believe you are saying God is the author of so much chaos and confusion. Especially when considering denominations like Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons who don't even believe the same things. What about Jim Jones type cults, do you believe God authored those too? There is strength in UNITY and being on one accord, not in a lot of division. A house divided against itself cannot stand. Jesus said that. Or is that one of the things you don't believe is true in the Bible?

Why do you think God is behind the chaos and confusion when clearly it's Christians that keep slitting up over doctrine, not God.

 

[Rev. Thomas]

From your statement, you implied that I do and so in this regard I agree with your unwitting admission.

This is what you said......

"There are over 20,000 denominations because of that kind of thinking."

That kind of thinking is Holy Ghost inspired friend. This means that diversity is unity in Christ, because the enemies of the cross can never force all faithful under the one controlling umbrella of ecclesiastical authority.

All roads WILL NEVER lead to Rome!

Churches split up because both sides claim to speak for the Holy Spirit or for Jesus, and they can't agree, because both sides are so sure they are right. lol

 

[Rev. Thomas]

What may seem chaos and confusion to you, me and others is not to our Lord and saviour.

We are in times of war, ever since the inquisitions and the infiltration of the Church by the enemies of the cross of Christ.

Jesus is behind this strategy to diversify his body of believers, through many denominations. Offcourse amongst those are also counterfeits, which the Lord knows about too. If we know of Mormons and JWs then the Lord knows those that we don't know like liberals and so forth.

I know it seems overwhelming to contemplate, but Christ is in control of his body. Many ask why so many denominations and the simple answer is the controlling head of the church has strategically through schisms made it that way to make it harder for the infiltrating enemy to subjugate the entire flock under the one ecclesiastical controlling umbrella.

If we look at how Rome is trying to do this with not only Christianity but also the other false religions, it should serve as a warning that two sides are playing. Jesus certainly doesn't want a single mega religiois institution that falls under the one controlling umbrella.

Just to understand the mind of Jesus when the disciples saw others using his name they were compelled to stop them because they were not with their group or denomination, yet Jesus in his strategic mindset said don't do that for if they are not against us, they are for us. We immediately see Jesus here encouraging multiple denominations outside of the 1st century discipleship. This means that since we are at war, the number of denominations is a safe guard to resist the deception of the enemy from within who tries to subjugate the entire congregation within the one controlling umbrella.

Why do you think Jesus wanted the Western Church to split into over 20,000 denominations while the Easter Orthodox Church has remained one church since the beginning?

 

[Phil 1:21]

What may seem chaos and confusion to you, me and others is not to our Lord and saviour.

We are in times of war, ever since the inquisitions and the infiltration of the Church by the enemies of the cross of Christ.

Jesus is behind this strategy to diversify his body of believers, through many denominations. Offcourse amongst those are also counterfeits, which the Lord knows about too. If we know of Mormons and JWs then the Lord knows those that we don't know like liberals and so forth.

I know it seems overwhelming to contemplate, but Christ is in control of his body. Many ask why so many denominations and the simple answer is the controlling head of the church has strategically through schisms made it that way to make it harder for the infiltrating enemy to subjugate the entire flock under the one ecclesiastical controlling umbrella.

If we look at how Rome is trying to do this with not only Christianity but also the other false religions, it should serve as a warning that two sides are playing. Jesus certainly doesn't want a single mega religiois institution that falls under the one controlling umbrella.

Just to understand the mind of Jesus when the disciples saw others using his name they were compelled to stop them because they were not with their group or denomination, yet Jesus in his strategic mindset said don't do that for if they are not against us, they are for us. We immediately see Jesus here encouraging multiple denominations outside of the 1st century discipleship. This means that since we are at war, the number of denominations is a safe guard to resist the deception of the enemy from within who tries to subjugate the entire congregation within the one controlling umbrella.

That's a very interesting perspective. Right or wrong, I do not know, but it wouldn't surprise me if you were right. After all, when Jesus appeared to Paul he didn't tell him to go check in with Peter to get his marching orders. Jesus just sent him on his way to do The Lord's work.

 

[tooldtocare]

I reject the idea that the Lord killed all the firstborn in Egypt. Humans kill humans, not the Lord

 

[Merv]

Latecomer to the topic here of "Can you reject any parts of the Bible and still be a Christian..."; so I apologize if this thought is mere repetition from any of the previous hundreds of posts which I did not take the time to wade through.
Most all of us who have lists of our non-negotiable essentials, and many are happy to let that list grow quite long and detailed. They also nearly always confuse their own understandings and interpretations with the affirmations of the Scriptures themselves. To those who have proudly appointed themselves to be God's heresy hunters, you have a big problem ... and that is this: You will search the Scriptures in vain for words like this from Jesus as he addresses some grateful outcast he has just healed:

"Go in peace your faith has saved you ... or it will save you once you verify all your doctrinal beliefs with this questionnaire. You aren't allowed to miss anything on it --check marks need to be in all the right columns --oh, and before I forget: also make sure you read passages in Genesis as though it is all about scientific kinds of questions and whether Adam and Eve had bellybuttons and such. I know you don't know what "science" is yet, but this will be really important to some people about twenty centuries from now and they have added all these requirements to my gospel message -- oh, and one last thing and it's a doozy! -- make sure to get that column under "conservative" check marked there (trust me, you don't even want to go near that liberal column --perdition itself!)"

I've read Scriptures through many times and I've never read of Jesus saying anything that could remotely justify all our long doctrinal checklists today. So if I have to choose between today's self-appointed doctrinal Pharisees, and the Scriptures, I think I'll side with Scriptures. I pray that I'll be found with Jesus on this, and with Paul who tells us he resolved to "know nothing except Christ, and him crucified" (lest their faith rest on anything other than the power of God). Not that all the other stuff can't be important -- lots of stuff in life is important for many good reasons, but that doesn't turn each and every important thing into a salvation issue. If those who claim to be defending the Bible can't understand this very basic gospel message, then they've already set aside the gospel in favor of their own pet readings churning out doctrinal minutia, which without the gospel just becomes so much rubbish. So just enjoy this irony for a bit: those who most want to impress others with how seriously they are taking every jot and tittle in the Bible are the very ones most in need of a fresh washing from the Spirit to give them new eyes -- eyes for Christ alone as the only true foundation. I know I need that washing daily. I suffer under my own (too-long) lists as well.

 

[Aldebaran]

Wow I can't believe you are saying God is the author of so much chaos and confusion. Especially when considering denominations like Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons who don't even believe the same things. What about Jim Jones type cults, do you believe God authored those too? There is strength in UNITY and being on one accord, not in a lot of division. A house divided against itself cannot stand. Jesus said that. Or is that one of the things you don't believe is true in the Bible?

I believe the argument was about Christian denominations, which by definition are centered around the idea of Jesus Christ being the provider of salvation to those who believe upon Him. The denominations and cults that aren't even centered around that belief are not Christian denominations. Some of what are referred to as denominations are actually opposed to the idea that Christ is our savior.

 

[servantofyahshua]

When your thinking is aligned with the Bible *without* contradiction, then you understand God. In other words, if you find some text in the Bible that stands in opposition of your thoughts, then it is time to correct your thoughts.
The Bible is a gateway to the spiritual world. If you try to gain physical knowledge, you are already on the wrong path (e.g. the Earth be flat)

 

[Aldebaran]

Why do you think Jesus wanted the Western Church to split into over 20,000 denominations while the Easter Orthodox Church has remained one church since the beginning?

That's a fictional number. Some people use even higher numbers than that.
The 33,000 Denominations Myth - Alpha and Omega Ministries

 

[smalltowngirl86]

Oh yes oh yes!
I do have 'Christian friends' who start reading the Bible at Exodus, (genesis is symbolic) Another christian friend believes only the true messages of Paul. Another only the New Testament starting in Acts (not the gospels!)
Other Christian friends are homosexual and reject all verses that condemn their way of life. I do know a few pedophile Christians....not too sure what they believe.
I....wonder why the story of Jesus walking on the water is in the Bible. Yes I believe it, so the rest is true too...pity for my so called Christian friends...

I also have a Christian friend that is homosexual and also rejects all verses that condemn their way of life.

 

[The Times]

Churches split up because both sides claim to speak for the Holy Spirit or for Jesus, and they can't agree, because both sides are so sure they are right. lol

Yes, that is true on a micro and compartmentalized perspective, however on a macro point of view, the destiny of the Church was to splinter into cells, so to make it hard for the Bolshevic type persecution to prevail against it.

 

[The Times]

That's a very interesting perspective. Right or wrong, I do not know, but it wouldn't surprise me if you were right. After all, when Jesus appeared to Paul he didn't tell him to go check in with Peter to get his marching orders. Jesus just sent him on his way to do The Lord's work.

Yes, also to mention that the disciples wanted to silence others who were using the name of Jesus and were not part of their denomination/group, whereby Jesus instructed them to do no such thing and to prevent them not, for if they are not against us, then they are for us. This is the first instant that Jesus revealed his strategy behind acceptance of splintered multiple denominations. This means that there is a purpose already hinted at, especially in times of war and persecution.

 

[The Times]

Why do you think Jesus wanted the Western Church to split into over 20,000 denominations while the Easter Orthodox Church has remained one church since the beginning?

Because, the Protestant movement was the final leg to evangelise the world, whereby the fruits clearly show that and that the Eastern Orthodox is the arms side of Christ's Church in times of war and great persecution. So that the EO remains in tact as an arms side to instruct the Protestant world to come and die for the Lord. It is an open invitation to carry the cross of Christ and to be martyrd for Christ's sake. The EO therefore remains the last refuge of hope to the Protestant world in times of war and is the denomination of the last hour for all Christianity to converge to, in order to conscript many Christian protestants to embrace death for Christ. This is why they remain unchanged and therefore there is purpose and function to why EO exists considering the test of times it has been through.

 

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[Tina W]

Why do you think God is behind the chaos and confusion when clearly it's Christians that keep slitting up over doctrine, not God.

I don't think God is behind it, The times does. I know God is not behind that kind of division. God wants us all to be in unity on one accord.