Where in Revelation is a Rapture Mentioned?

[keras]

Riberra, there are many prophesies that have a dual fulfilment. Like the desecration of the Temple by Antiochus in 163 BC and it was 3 1/2 years before it was re-dedicated. We await the final fulfilment of this, as Jesus said. Matthew 24:15
Revelation is clear, there will be 1260 day, 42 month and 3 1/2 year periods to come before Jesus Returns. They add to the 7 year treaty period that the Anti-Christ will make with the people of God. He breaks it at the mid point, conquering the holy people. Daniel 7:25, Revelation 13:7
But this thread is: 'Where in Revelation is the rapture mentioned'.
Answer: Nowhere is a rapture of God's people to heaven mentioned.

 

[Riberra]

Riberra, there are many prophesies that have a dual fulfilment. Like the desecration of the Temple by Antiochus in 163 BC and it was 3 1/2 years before it was re-dedicated. We await the final fulfilment of this, as Jesus said. Matthew 24:15
Revelation is clear, there will be 1260 day, 42 month and 3 1/2 year periods to come before Jesus Returns. They add to the 7 year treaty period that the Anti-Christ will make with the people of God. He breaks it at the mid point, conquering the holy people. Daniel 7:25, Revelation 13:7

I agree that there will be a 42 months reign of the Beast before Jesus Returns....
The abomination mentioned in Daniel 7 will be when the Beast/AC declare that he is God....Revelation 17:8 tell us more about the identity of the entity who will require that people receive the mark and worship him mentioned in Revelation 13.



Nothing to do with Daniel 9:23-27 and Matthew 24:15

In Matthew 24:15 Jesus tell the disciple that the prophecy of Daniel 9:23-27 will be completely fulfilled in THEIR GENERATION including the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple.
Matthew 24
1 And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple.

2 And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.

That have happened in THEIR GENERATION in 70 AD.

But this thread is: 'Where in Revelation is the rapture mentioned'.
Answer: Nowhere is a rapture of God's people to heaven mentioned.

Agreed.

 

[keras]

That have happened in THEIR GENERATION in 70 AD.

Jesus said: ...when the fig tree breaks into leaf....then you will know the end is near, at the very door. Truly I tell you, the present generation will see it all. Matthew 24:32-34
The fig tree is Judah and their resurgence was in 1948, the Jewish nation in Israel. Anyone born on that date and living for three score and ten years, will see the last days events unfold.

 

[Riberra]

Jesus said: ...when the fig tree breaks into leaf....then you will know the end is near, at the very door. Truly I tell you, the present generation will see it all. Matthew 24:32-34
The fig tree is Judah and their resurgence was in 1948, the Jewish nation in Israel. Anyone born after that date and living for three score and ten years, will see the last days events unfold.

The things concerning the Jews mentioned in Daniel 9:23-27 have been completely fulfilled during the generation of the apostles, that included the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple in 70 AD...millions of Jews have been killed by the roman army....the desolation ended at the end of the war with a flood [of blood]
Daniel 9:26
26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

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The things that will happen after the creation of the State of Israel in 1948. NOTE-the basket of the good figs Jeremiah 24:5 [are still scattered in the wild among the nations for their good] versus the basket of bad figs who are gathered in the land of Israel for their future destruction mentioned in Jeremiah 24:8-10 concern the last generation. Thus the generation of those born in 1948 [if alive] will see the Beast taking power during 42 months (3 1/2 years)[Revelation 13]...and the Return of Jesus in Glory for the battle of Armageddon [Revelation 16:15-16....Revelation 19]

Now the question is what define a biblical generation: is it 40 years ,is it 70 years, 80 years or as some claim maybe 120 years ?

We can say safely that 40 years is not the good one....we are now close to 70 years ...note that i am not trying to set a date.

 

[Psalm3704]

I said that the 70 weeks of Daniel 9:23-27 have been fulfilled

Do you understand what Daniel wrote here?

Daniel 8:17-19 New King James Version (NKJV)
17 So he came near where I stood, and when he came I was afraid and fell on my face; but he said to me, “Understand, son of man, that the vision refers to the time of the end.” 18 Now, as he was speaking with me, I was in a deep sleep with my face to the ground; but he touched me, and stood me upright. 19 And he said, “Look, I am making known to you what shall happen in the latter time of the indignation; for at the appointed time the end shall be.

Daniel 8:19 (MSG) "And then he continued, 'I want to tell you what is going to happen as the judgment days of wrath wind down, for there is going to be an end to all this.

Daniel 8:19 (NIV) He said: “I am going to tell you what will happen later in the time of wrath, because the vision concerns the appointed time of the end.

Daniel 8:19 (NLT) Then he said, “I am here to tell you what will happen later in the time of wrath. What you have seen pertains to the very end of time.​

Daniel 12:1 New King James Version (NKJV)
1 “At that time Michael shall stand up,
The great prince who stands watch over the sons of your people;
And there shall be a time of trouble,
Such as never was since there was a nation,
Even to that time.
And at that time your people shall be delivered,
Every one who is found written in the book.

Daniel 12:9 New King James Version (NKJV)
And he said, “Go your way, Daniel, for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.

Daniel 12:13 New King James Version (NKJV)
“But you, go your way till the end; for you shall rest, and will arise to your inheritance at the end of the days.”








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[Major1]

Again, you are associating terms without warrant. So where is this "final seven-year period" called the " tribulation period"? You have not proven this yet.



Great words, but still empty words. You are not, and have not, addressed my point on the two "wraths" revealed in the Book of Revelation. Do you understand that the bible reveals two distinct periods of "wrath" which will occur during Daniel's 70th week? And do you not also recognize that not only do these two distinct "wraths" not overlap, but neither covers the whole of Daniel's 70th week? You seem to be intentionally avoiding this conversation.



Your assumption is that the "wrath" the church is promised exemption from is the whole of Daniel's 70th week. I have pointed out from the Book of Revelation that there are actually two distinct "wraths" spoken of. You have not addressed this.



Yes, in that you refuse to acknowledge that there are two distinct "wraths", and you refuse to distinguish between the two. So again, which "wrath" are we delivered from? And again, unless you can prove otherwise, they are distinct and neither covers the whole of Daniel's 70th week.

Yes I did. I showed you Biblically exactly where it is. It is NOT that you were not shown, it is that you reject what you were shown.

You said that you have studied the Bible for 40 years. Congratulation my brother. But you are not going to tell me that in 40 years of Bible study you now have to be shown WHERE the 7 year Tribulation is.

Now I am sure that some people will believe your question and spend hours debating that with you but I am not one of those people. I will be glad to discuss Bible questions with you but I need for you to be sincere and not evasive and disingenuous.

Now I am NOT trying to be argumentative or mean to you but you just proposed that I prove to you WHERE the Tribulation is found. Then you post in the very next sentence.......
"Do you understand that the bible reveals two distinct periods of "wrath" which will occur during Daniel's 70th week? "

This exactly what I am talking about as you just answered your own question.

Now you state..............
"Do you understand that the bible reveals two distinct periods of "wrath" which will occur during Daniel's 70th week? And do you not also recognize that not only do these two distinct "wraths" not overlap, but neither covers the whole of Daniel's 70th week? You seem to be intentionally avoiding this conversation."

First of all, I am perplexed as to why you feel the need to be so challenging. Is this you normal way of conversing with others?

I am not sure what you are trying to say but it seems that you are confusing Daniel 9:24-27.

It would be better to state your position instead of asking questions that I have to assume what you are talking about.

Now, If one interprets Daniel 9:24-27 as presenting the events in strict chronological and historical sequence, it is clear that a "GAP' is in view.

First, in v. 25, there is a period of 69 weeks ending with the appearance of Messiah. Then, after these 69 weeks two other events occur:
1). The death of Messiah
2). and the destruction of the city.

Finally, in v. 27, and after the events of v. 26, the final or 70th week occurs. Since two of the prophesied events occur after the 69th week but before the 70th week, a gap is clearly seen just as Daniel said.

The events of v. 24 were not fulfilled at Christ’s first coming, nor have they been fulfilled at any time in history since his appearance. Therefore, the 70th week, in which time they will be fulfilled, must be future and then WRATH of God will be seen during that 7 year period which the Bible and the Lord Jesus said is a "Time of Tribulation".

Now I want to be as nice and Christian as possible to you and everyone else. What I have written is my understanding which like you has come from MORE than 40 years of Bible study. It is what I have learned from several great teachers and the Holy Spirit himself as I am sure you will say the say thing. It is what I believe the Bible says and teaches.

If you do not agree.........wonderful. But since you do not agree and have said that, I really do not care and I am not going to argue with you or anyone else. YOU have studied and seen and it seems you have believed what you think is truth as have I.

If you would like to communicate by stating your position, the Bible verses that convinced you of your position I will be more than happy to talk with you.

But if it is going to be a War of words and accusations..........then we are done my friend.

It is your call!

Major out.

 

[Major1]

Are you saying that the 70 weeks of Daniel's prophecy have not been fulfilled by God in the prophesied 70 weeks ?

You seem to think that God have failed to accomplish His own prophecy in the allowed 70 weeks given to the Jew to cease their transgression and anoint the Messiah ?

Simply ask yourself:

How long does it take the Father to fulfill His own 70 week prophecy?

The obvious and correct answer is 70 weeks. If a 70 week prophecy is given and it is not fulfilled in 70 consecutive weeks, then the prophecy is not valid.

What week follows the 69th week?

The obvious answer is the 70th week, but the enemy would have you believe that there is a 1,990+ year time gap between the 69th and 70th week, even though there is no such time gap defined in Daniel 9.

Daniel 9:25 mentions the arrival of the promised Messiah, and then Daniel 9:27 mentions a ‘covenant‘. Whose covenant do you suppose that it is referring to?

Isn’t it logical to assume that it is Messiah’s covenant, as the reason that He came was to die to ratify the everlasting covenant with His blood as the Passover Lamb?

The text even proclaims that He was ‘cut off‘, meaning that He was killed, in the middle of the seven years, which matches Isaiah’s prophecy about the promised Messiah, in Isaiah 53:8, “He was taken from prison and from judgment. And as for His generation, who considered that He shall be cut off from the land of the living? For the transgression of My people He was stricken.“

The enemy’s end times deception is based on the concept of a futuristic 70th week of Daniel.

This is the very reason that the end times 7 year tribulation deception was created by the Roman Catholic Church.

They were being accused by the Protestant Reformers of being the Antichrist system who persecuted the saints.

The Protestant Reformers told people to ‘come out of her‘, which caused millions of people to leave the Roman Catholic Church and be saved by the pure Gospel of Messiah.

The enemy has programmed our minds to view the 70th week of Daniel as futuristic. He has used Pastors, Left Behind movies, books, etc.

But when you understand that the 70th week of Daniel has been fulfilled, and that it’s not an end-times 7-year tribulation period; most of the enemy’s deceptions about prophecy fulfillment crumble to the ground.

And what you failed to state is that All of that came to an end WHEN MESSIAH WAS CUT OFF!

When Messiah was crucified, the GAP between the 69th and 70th week began and is still going on.

Again, you are promoting "Preterism Theology" and nothing I say to you is going to matter to you. Why are you asking questions when you have been told over and over and over the Bible answers.

The 70th week of Daniel HAS NOT TAKEN PLACE!

When using the Jewish custom calendar of a 360-day year, 483 years after 445 B.C. places us at A.D. 30, which would coincide with Jesus’ triumphal entry into Jerusalem as seen in Matthew 21:1-9. The prophecy in Daniel 9 specifies that after the completion of the 483 years, “the Anointed One will be cut off” (verse 26). Now that is what the Scriptures say my dear friend.
This was fulfilled when Jesus was crucified. You are going to have to change history to make your theory work.

Daniel 9:26 continues with a prediction that, after the Messiah is killed, “the people of the ruler who will come will destroy the city and the sanctuary.” Now that was HISTORICALLY fulfilled with the destruction of Jerusalem in A.D. 70.

Then the “ruler who will come” is a reference to the Antichrist, who, it seems, will have some connection with Rome, since it was the Romans who destroyed Jerusalem.

Of the 70 “sevens,” 69 have been fulfilled in history. Please read some history and you will se that to be the case. Then that leaves one more “seven” yet to be fulfilled. SEVEN YEARS!

Most orthodox, Bible scholars that I have studied and read believe that we are now living in a huge gap between the 69th week and the 70th week. The prophetic clock has been paused, as it were. The final “seven” of Daniel is what those who study the Scriptures call the tribulation period.

Daniel’s prophecy reveals some of the actions of the Antichrist, the “ruler who will come.”
Verse 27 says, “He will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven.’”(7 Years).
However, “in the middle of the ‘seven,’ . . . he will set up an abomination that causes desolation” in the temple.

Jesus warned of this event in Matthew 24:15.

After the Antichrist breaks the covenant with Israel, a time of “great tribulation” begins according to Matthew 24:21.

Daniel also predicts that the Antichrist will face judgment. He only rules “until the end that is decreed is poured out on him” in Daniel 9:27.
God will only allow evil to go so far, and the judgment the Antichrist will face has already been planned out.

That is my understanding of this subject.

 

[Major1]

Riberra, there are many prophesies that have a dual fulfilment. Like the desecration of the Temple by Antiochus in 163 BC and it was 3 1/2 years before it was re-dedicated. We await the final fulfilment of this, as Jesus said. Matthew 24:15
Revelation is clear, there will be 1260 day, 42 month and 3 1/2 year periods to come before Jesus Returns. They add to the 7 year treaty period that the Anti-Christ will make with the people of God. He breaks it at the mid point, conquering the holy people. Daniel 7:25, Revelation 13:7
But this thread is: 'Where in Revelation is the rapture mentioned'.
Answer: Nowhere is a rapture of God's people to heaven mentioned.

The short answer is: On the Last Day.

John 6:40 .............
" And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day."

John 6:44 ..........
" No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day."

John 6:54 .........
" Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day."

John 11:24 ........
"Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day."

When is the Last Day?

The last day will come "like a thief in the night," bringing destruction to unbelievers but deliverance to believers (1 Thess. 5:1 - 10).

 

[Major1]

Jesus said: ...when the fig tree breaks into leaf....then you will know the end is near, at the very door. Truly I tell you, the present generation will see it all. Matthew 24:32-34
The fig tree is Judah and their resurgence was in 1948, the Jewish nation in Israel. Anyone born after that date and living for three score and ten years, will see the last days events unfold.

And I agree with you on that statement.

 

[Major1]

The things concerning the Jews mentioned in Daniel 9:23-27 have been completely fulfilled during the generation of the apostles, that included the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple in 70 AD...millions of Jews have been killed by the roman army....the desolation ended at the end of the war with a flood [of blood]
Daniel 9:26
26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

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The things that will happen after the creation of the State of Israel in 1948. NOTE-the basket of the good figs Jeremiah 24:5 [are still scattered in the wild among the nations for their good] versus the basket of bad figs who are gathered in the land of Israel for their future destruction mentioned in Jeremiah 24:8-10 concern the last generation. Thus the generation of those born in 1948 [if alive] will see the Beast taking power during 42 months (3 1/2 years)[Revelation 13]...and the Return of Jesus in Glory for the battle of Armageddon [Revelation 16:15-16....Revelation 19]

Now the question is what define a biblical generation: is it 40 years ,is it 70 years, 80 years or as some claim maybe 120 years ?

We can say safely that 40 years is not the good one....we are now close to 70 years ...note that i am not trying to set a date.

When I read Preterist theology, I continue to be amazed at how it sounds and how you or anyone can be so wrong on something so obvious.

In Daniel 9:24, Gabriel told Daniel that the following things would be completed for Daniel's people, Israel, by the end of the seventy weeks of years ................
1). all transgression would be finished or restrained,
2). all sin would be put to an end,
3). atonement would be made for all wickedness,
4). everlasting righteousness would begin,
5). all vision and prophecy would be sealed up, and
6). the most Holy One and most Holy Place would be anointed (Daniel 9:24).

Consider points #1 and #2. Has All transgression in Israel been finished or restrained. Has all sin been put to an end. I do not mean to insult your intelligence....but IS THAT THE CASE RIGHT NOW????? Is there right now in Israel NO SIN, NO REBELLION, NO MURDER, NO LIEING, NO STEALING, NO ADULTERY?????

Now consider points #4 and #5. Just as in points #1 and #2, everlasting righteousness cannot begin in Israel until her Messiah has come and has begun to rule and reign. Furthermore, when He comes again, all visions and prophecy about His coming to be their sovereign King, as well as about the Israelites being gathered from all the nations and brought back into their homeland, will be sealed, in the sense of being confirmed or fulfilled.

So then, Is Jesus on the throne in Jerusalem? Is He ruling and reigning??? IF He is, why is there still war and rumors of war with death, destruction???

Thus, #3 and #6 are the only ones of the six points that, arguably, could associated with Jesus' initial coming in the first century. Let's look at these two points. Many would insist that Jesus' blood sacrifice on the cross was the blood atonement made for all wickedness, including that of Israel. It could be argued, though, that the refusal of the vast majority of Israelites (whether in Israel or dispersed among the nations) to accept this blood atonement, on their behalf, has left them unredeemed and unsaved.

 

[Riberra]

And what you failed to state is that All of that came to an end WHEN MESSIAH WAS CUT OFF!

When Messiah was crucified, the GAP between the 69th and 70th week began and is still going on.

Again, you are promoting "Preterism Theology" and nothing I say to you is going to matter to you. Why are you asking questions when you have been told over and over and over the Bible answers.

The 70th week of Daniel HAS NOT TAKEN PLACE!

When using the Jewish custom calendar of a 360-day year, 483 years after 445 B.C. places us at A.D. 30, which would coincide with Jesus’ triumphal entry into Jerusalem as seen in Matthew 21:1-9. The prophecy in Daniel 9 specifies that after the completion of the 483 years, “the Anointed One will be cut off” (verse 26). Now that is what the Scriptures say my dear friend.
This was fulfilled when Jesus was crucified. You are going to have to change history to make your theory work.

Daniel 9:26 continues with a prediction that, after the Messiah is killed, “the people of the ruler who will come will destroy the city and the sanctuary.” Now that was HISTORICALLY fulfilled with the destruction of Jerusalem in A.D. 70.

Then the “ruler who will come” is a reference to the Antichrist, who, it seems, will have some connection with Rome, since it was the Romans who destroyed Jerusalem.

The ruler who will come after that Messiah was cut off is the roman emperor who with his army have destroyed Jerusalem and the temple in 70 AD.
The 70 weeks of Daniel 9:23-27 have been fulfilled.

The things who have not been fulfilled concerns the prophecies about the little horn mentioned in Daniel 7 and Daniel 8 which concern the times of the End [Revelation 13] before that Jesus will return in Glory.

 

[Major1]

The ruler who will come after that Messiah was cut off is the roman emperor who with his army have destroyed Jerusalem and the temple.
The 70 weeks of Daniel 9:23-27 have been fulfilled.

The things who have not been fulfilled concerns the prophecies about the little horn.

Interesting that of the 6 things I posted you could not and did not address a single one of them.

I believe that pretty much tells everyone how false this kind of thinking is.

 

[Riberra]

Interesting that of the 6 things I posted you could not and did not address a single one of them.

I believe that pretty much tells everyone how false this kind of thinking is.

The Jews have refused to obey God's command to cease their transgressions and anoint the Messiah in the 70 weeks time allowed.....they were punished :destruction of Jerusalem and the temple ...millions of Jews were killed by the roman army in 70 AD.....Daniel 9:23-27 Prophecy is fulfilled .

In Daniel 9:24, Gabriel told Daniel that the following things would be completed for Daniel's people, Israel, by the end of the seventy weeks of years ................
1). all transgression would be finished or restrained,
2). all sin would be put to an end,
3). atonement would be made for all wickedness,
4). everlasting righteousness would begin,
5). all vision and prophecy would be sealed up, and
6). the most Holy One and most Holy Place would be anointed (Daniel 9:24).

 

[Major1]

The Jews have refused to obey God's command to cease their transgressions and anoint the Messiah in the 70 weeks time allowed.....they were punished :destruction of Jerusalem and the temple ...millions of Jews were killed by the roman army in 70 AD.....Daniel 9:23-27 Prophecy is fulfilled .

According to your theology, there will be no rapture, there is no coming Tribulation, there is no coming Antichrist, or a mark of the beast. Why? Because they already took place.

Now lets read Rev 1:9:
“I, John, both your brother and companion in the tribulation and kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was on the island that is called Patmos for the word of God and for the testimony of Jesus Christ.”

Revelation was written after 70 A.D. and has been shown to be written by John in 95 A.D.
John is saying Jesus had not come yet, BUT you say that all prophecy took place in 70 A.D. WOW!

According to your theology, there is no increasing apostasy as history progresses; instead, a Christianization of the world. The Great Apostasy would have had to have happened in the first century while the apostles were still alive building the church and completely end in 70 AD., while John continued to live. WOW!

It is unacceptable to hold that an apostasy was completed before 70 AD, when the church had just begun to increase and spread to other regions besides Israel. Neither do we see the house of the Lord established in Israel where it supposed to be for all nations to be part of. In Acts 2:17 Peter teaches that “the last days” began in their present time period but it does not end with 70 AD. It began with Pentecost and ends Jesus’ return, setting things in order as He exercises judgments and establishes his Messianic kingdom that will be the only government throughout the earth.

Dan. 9:27 ........
“Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week; but in the middle of the week he shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering.”

It is Israel’s signing of a peace treaty that commences the tribulation. Of course in your theology you have to change this obvious scripture to have an alternate meaning to add another brick in the wall to keep your argument. Some say that Daniel 9 refers to Jesus’ covenant which is a total fabrication and a terrible interpretation.

1Thess. 5:2-3........
“For you yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so comes as a thief in the night. For when they say, "Peace and safety!" then sudden destruction comes upon them, as labor pains upon a pregnant woman. And they shall not escape.”

Were the roman armies a thief in the night? This sudden destruction is that they enter the tribulation period which no one will escape. This is why Jesus in the parable of the fig tree says for us to watch and pray in Luke 21:35-36.

Would you care to prove your theology Biblically AND Historically.

 

[Major1]

The Jews have refused to obey God's command to cease their transgressions and anoint the Messiah in the 70 weeks time allowed.....they were punished :destruction of Jerusalem and the temple ...millions of Jews were killed by the roman army in 70 AD.....Daniel 9:23-27 Prophecy is fulfilled .

1). Has all transgression been finished or restrained????
If it has, why do we still have jails full of people? Why are court rooms jammed?

2). Has all sin been put to an end????
Now YOU and I are sinners so how is that a fact if sin has been ended?

3). Has an everlasting righteousness begun????
What day did that happen? What time did it begin. What page in history is that recorded.
Do not give me a generic comment like....."It all started in 70 A.D. That is not a valid answer.

4). Has all vision and prophecy been sealed up?????
When did the 2 prophets preach from the temple in Jerusalem. What were there names. Why is there no record of their death in any history book....any where?
When were the 144, Jewish, virgin men saved. If it was 70 A.D. then why didn't John write about there death since he wrote the Revelation 25 years later????

5). When was the most Holy One been anointed and where was the most Holy Place at where it took place?????
The Holy One must be Jesus Christ. The Most Holy Place can only be the Jewish Temple. We can agree on that. So where in the Bible, history books, college library, public records, or the wonderful internet do we find that event. When was Jesus anointed in the Temple and accepted as the Most Holy One?

These should be very easy for you to explain and I look forward to your response along with the names of the Bible verses to validate your answer.

 

[Riberra]

According to your theology, there will be no rapture,

There will be no rapture to Heaven before the tribulation...Only a caught up and gathering to meet Jesus in the air at His Coming.

there is no coming Tribulation, there is no coming Antichrist, or a mark of the beast. Why? Because they already took place.

Reread my other posts and you will see that i never said that.

The events of Revelation 6:12 through Revelation 19 have not been fulfilled.
Daniel prophecies about the little horn/beast mentioned in Daniel 7 Daniel 8 who will happen in the last 42 months preceding the coming of Jesus have not been fulfilled

Obviously, you have absolutely no idea about the identity of the beast who will impose his mark and worship during the 42 months of his reign on the Earth who will precede the coming of Jesus in glory.

 

[Major1]

There will be no rapture to Heaven before the tribulation...Only a caught up and gathering to meet Jesus in the air at His Coming.


Reread my other posts and you will see that i never said that.

The events of Revelation 6:12 through Revelation 19 have not been fulfilled.
Daniel prophecies about the little horn/beast mentioned in Daniel 7 Daniel 8 who will happen in the last 42 months preceding the coming of Jesus have not been fulfilled

Obviously, you have absolutely no idea about the identity of the beast who will impose his mark and worship during the 42 months of his reign on the Earth who will precede the coming of Jesus in glory.

No one knows who the A/C is my friend.

 

[Douggg]

There will be no rapture to Heaven before the tribulation...Only a caught up and gathering to meet Jesus in the air at His Coming.

Is Jesus' Father's house - the air? And do you have any pictures of the mansions through the world's most powerful telescopes?

 

[Riberra]

Is Jesus' Father's house - the air? And do you have any pictures of the mansions through the world's most powerful telescopes?

New Jerusalem is the father house in Heaven.
Revelation 21 Revelation 22 say that we will enter it when New Jerusalem will come down on the New Earth after the Great White Throne Judgement ...thus after the millennium reign of Jesus on the Earth.

 

[Riberra]

No one knows who the A/C is my friend.

The Bible tell us that it will be the Beast who come out of the bottomless pit...Revelation 17:8....That people whose names are not written in the book of life will worship and take his mark Revelation 13:5-8 .The same beast coming out of the bottomless pit who will kill the two witnesses mentioned in Revelation 11:7.The Bible reveal his name in Revelation 9:11.