Where in Revelation is a Rapture Mentioned?

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The rapture is also debunked by Acts 3:21. If Jesus stays in heaven until the new heaven and new earth, how can he possibly come to get us before then?
You've probably heard me say this before, but the devil cast into the lake of fire, before the 2nd resurrections, isn't the Devil. It's Gog, a devil like the Beast and the False Prophet that's cast into the lake of fire, hence the Rich Man burning in the lake of fire after the 2nd resurrection, asking God to send someone back to earth to warn his brothers. Christ really returns to this earth at the end of this world which is the Wheat and Tares resurrection/harvest, of this world into the barn (the new Yah-ru-Shalem) or the lake of fire. There isn't going to be a throne judgment in the 3rd and final resurrection.
 
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I believe in the seven churches as ages...

Ephesus - Messianic - Beginning with the Apostle to the circumcision, Peter.
Smyrna - Gentile Persecuted Church - Beginning with the Apostle to the uncircumcision, Paul.
Pergamos - Orthodoxy formed in this time... Pergos is a tower... Needed in the dark ages
Thyatira - Catholicism formed in this time - The spirit of Jezebel is to control and to dominate.
Sardis - Protestantism formed in this time- A sardius is a gem - elegant yet hard and rigid
Philadelphia - Wesleyism formed in this time - To be sanctioned is to acquire it with love.
Laodicea - Charismatic movement formed in this time - Rich and increased with goods and have need of nothing?

Seven Churches - Christ Jesus walks in the midst of the seven church congregations
Seven Stars - All Christians are in the right hand of Christ Jesus (Revelation 2:1)
Seven Seals - The lambs book of life will be sealed with seven seals...

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1 And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals.
2 And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the book, and to loose the seals thereof?
3 And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon.
4 And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon. - Revelation 5

If this is not the Lambs Book of Life why all the ado? The earth will remain unhurt until the following takes place...

1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.
2 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,
3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads. - Revelation 7

And after the 144,000 were sealed we have this scripture...

After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb. - Revelation 7

The rapture occurred in Revelation 7:9... After this we are ready for the plagues of the seven trumpets, seven vials, the overthrow of the Anti-Christ, and the destruction of this world.

This prophecy also works in with Christ's coming as a thief, in times we think not, before the earth is hurt....


36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.
44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh. - Matthew 24
 
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So where are the resurrected then?

I'm not sure I understand your question. You asked about the rapture. I suggested looking at the 2nd half of Rev. 7. So, given that you are looking for anything which might be a reference to the rapture, do you see anything in the 2nd half of Rev. 7 which might fit what you are looking for? And if you don't, then why not?
 
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Eusebius, Bishop of Caesarea, was a spiritual advisor to Constantine after Constantine gained power and legalized Christianity. He wrote a book, Ecclesiastical History, c. 324. Some of the texts he used for his history of the persecuted church during Roman times have disappeared. He wrote about a man named Cerenthus and records from some early church leaders that Cerenthus had written Revelation.

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The rapture occurred in Revelation 7:9... After this we are ready for the plagues of the seven trumpets, seven vials, the overthrow of the Anti-Christ, and the destruction of this world.
them in Revelation 7:9 are not raptured saints but marytred saints because they come out of the Great Tribulation, it says in Revelation 7:14.

The seven trumpets, seven vials, take place during the Great Tribulation.
 
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them in Revelation 7:9 are not raptured saints but marytred saints because they come out of the Great Tribulation, it says in Revelation 7:14.

The seven trumpets, seven vials, take place during the Great Tribulation.

Can you prove either of these statements biblically? Both are assumptions unless you can prove otherwise.
 
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I'm not sure I understand your question. You asked about the rapture. I suggested looking at the 2nd half of Rev. 7. So, given that you are looking for anything which might be a reference to the rapture, do you see anything in the 2nd half of Rev. 7 which might fit what you are looking for? And if you don't, then why not?
There's nothing in chapter 7 that a court of law can conclude is referring to a rapture ... nothing whatsoever.
Chapter 7 mentions only two group of people, and I know you're not claiming the "great multitude" is the raptured, and the 144,000 the resurrected, so where are the resurrected?
 
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There's nothing in chapter 7 that a court of law can conclude is referring to a rapture ... nothing whatsoever.

You can claim the above all you want, but if you were willing to consider it and look for it, you would find collaborating evidence. But I rather suspect you are not interested in doing so.

Chapter 7 mentions only two group of people, and I know you're not claiming the "great multitude" is the raptured and the 144,000 the resurrected...

You are half-right (and half-wrong). I would claim that the "great multitude" is the raptured church, and the 144,000 are the "left behind". But since you seem to have already discounted any such thing, I rather suspect this conversation is finished.
 
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Can you prove either of these statements biblically? Both are assumptions unless you can prove otherwise.
I can and have proved that the vast multitude of Rev 7:9 are on earth.
Isaiah 66:15-21 gives the story in a nutshell: The terrible Day of the Lord's wrath by fire will clear all the holy Land area and change the world. All the true Christians are gathered in Jerusalem and the 144k are selected from them. Some will also become priests for the Lord. Many other prophesies confirm this scenario, and Revelation 14:1-3 says God's Throne will be on Mt Zion.
Also 1 Thessalonians 1:6-10 says that on the great Day of blazing fire, the Lord will reveal His glory to all true believers.
Romans 9:24-27 We Christians receive God's mercy....as Hosea said: Those who were not My people, I will call My people.......In the very place [Jerusalem] where the Israelites were told; You are no people of Mine, they [Christians] shall be called sons of the Living God. As for the Israelites, though they be a many as the sands of the sea, only a remnant will be saved.

The story is plain; soon the Lord will 'reset the world's civilization' and cleanse His holy Land. Deuteronomy 32:43
All the true Christian believers, those who called out to the Lord and trusted Him for protection, Acts 2:21, will migrate to the holy Land, Psalms 107:1-43, Zechariah 8:7-8, where they will live in peace and prosperity, Amos 9:13-15.
God will destroy a huge army that will attack from the North, Ezekiel 38/39, in order to make Himself known to many nations.
Therefore all this, plus; happens before the glorious Return of Jesus for His Millennial reign.
 
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Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh. - Matthew 24:44

If there were any signs of tribulation the hour Christ comes for the church would be well announced, and not as a thief in the night. Therefore this event must be pre-trib, in every day times. like unto the days of Noah and Lot.
 
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There's nothing in chapter 7 that a court of law can conclude is referring to a rapture ... nothing whatsoever.

He's actually correct. Look at the palm branches in their hands.

Revelation 7:9 New King James Version (NKJV)
After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could number, of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, with palm branches in their hands,







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Jesus Christ comes as a thief... In times unlooked for... And this also coincides as in the times of Lot and Noah... Who were living ordinary routine lives before they were raptured out of their lands. For it could not be that God would destroy the righteous, as told to Abraham, that God would not destroy Sodom and Gomorrah if he found ten righteous souls. God rescued the righteous in Lots and Noah's time, in which he will do in Revelation 7.

Christ comes in plain ordinary times....

37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.
44 Therefore be ye also - Matthew 24
 
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Can you prove either of these statements biblically? Both are assumptions unless you can prove otherwise.
The great tribulation begins when the abominations of desolation is setup in the temple. Matthew 24:15-21. Which Jesus references the abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel the prophet (in Daniel 12:11-12). The abomination of desolate will be image made of the beast - the slain and come back to life man of sin.

The reason the man of sin is slain is because he goes into the temple sits, claims to be God (Ezekiel 28:1-10). His going into the temple, sitting claiming to be God is in 2thessalonians2:3-4. Which that act begins the Day of the Lord. Which the body of Christ is taken out of the world, before that day happens., 2thessalonians2:7 - the rapture.

So the sequence is:
1. the great falling away
2. the rapture prior to ...*
3. the man of sin going into the temple, sitting, claiming to be God - Day of the Lord begins
4. the man of sin killed for his actions (Ezekiel 28:1-10 )
5. the slain man of sin brought back to life (Isaiah 14:19-20)
6. the image made of the recovered man of sin (the abomination of desolation) - great tribulation begins.
7. persons martyred from not worshiping the beast or his image.
8. believers in Christ, who are martyred are them in heaven, seen in Revelation 7:9-14

*I show the rapture taking place after the great falling away take place - but it could take place well before then.
 
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Christ comes in plain ordinary times....

37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.
44 Therefore be ye also - Matthew 24

Oh Rocky's got the right idea. Yeah he knows.

How many people actually knows there's two parable in all three discourses? One for the second coming and the other for the rapture of the church.

How many here actually knew this? Actually how many understand the parables?







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He's actually correct. Look at the palm branches in their hands.

Revelation 7:9 New King James Version (NKJV)
After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could number, of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, with palm branches in their hands,
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In what universe are palm branches proof of a rapture?
 
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You can claim the above all you want, but if you were willing to consider it and look for it, you would find collaborating evidence. But I rather suspect you are not interested in doing so.
You have no evidence or else you wouldn't be beating around the bush.

All you have is wanting to believe so because there is nothing there to conclude the great multitude is raptured when the context is the 1st resurrection, hence "the rest of the dead live not until after the end of 1,000 yrs reign."

The only evidence you have is clicking your heels and wishing to be in Kansas.

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You are half-right (and half-wrong). I would claim that the "great multitude" is the raptured church, and the 144,000 are the "left behind". But since you seem to have already discounted any such thing, I rather suspect this conversation is finished.
LOL! I wish I was in Kansas.

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Peace!

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He's actually correct. Look at the palm branches in their hands.

Revelation 7:9 New King James Version (NKJV)
After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could number, of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, with palm branches in their hands,







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Tell it to your brother judge.

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The OP: Where in Revelation is the rapture mentioned?
Answer: Nowhere is a rapture removal of people to live in heaven mentioned in Revelation, or anywhere else in the Bible.

What is said in Revelation 13:7, [and in Daniel 7:25] is the Lord's holy people; the Saints are on earth when Satan is cast down from heaven. He overcomes them, as prophesied in Zechariah 14:1-2. Half are exiled, those who refused the peace treaty with the Anti-Christ, Daniel 11:32, and taken to safety, Revelation 12:14.

However there is at least 10 years from now until this happens, so we have time to strengthen our faith. I strongly recommend to all those who believe in a rapture outta here: give up that false idea, it will not happen, God doesn't want you in heaven, He manages OK with the angels, we all have tasks to do where we are now.
We must be seen to be doing our work for the Lord when He comes. 1 Thessalonians 5:23
 
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They stood before throne and before the Lamb... That is a place in heaven!
AGAIN: Revelation 14:1-3....the Lamb stood on Mt Zion.....the 144,000 sang a new song before the Throne....
Difficult as it may be for all who have been fooled by the rapture theory, you must try to read the truth in the Bible as given to us. Or else be shocked and disappointed when terrible things happen and you remain here.
 
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