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How can the grace of God be resisted by some yet received by others?

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How does the Father give them to Yeshua if God did not choose them? Choice is obviously implied in the verse.

I know you claim to have chosen to follow God and you truly believe it. You can continue to believe that if you want. You just can't get it from John 6:37. John 6:37 presents God's choice first before you ever follow. Give God His due praise in choosing you who, like me, were never worthy of His gracious choice, yet He chose you anyway.
So one verse supports your entire theory? So much so that you've listed the same verse twice?

Now what verse shows that God does not draw everyone?
 
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That's ONLY your opinion.
Wrong. If he lists his opinion with no supporting verses, that's his opinion.

Now you are for people stating what they think without including the verses that support what they say?
 
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So one verse supports your entire theory? So much so that you've listed the same verse twice?

Now what verse shows that God does not draw everyone?

You know your statement is false. The passages that I have shared all support God's work in choosing us.

I am sorry you and Ew are struggling with understanding God's word.
 
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Maybe it's just my OPINION, but it looks like they are trying to support or defend an indefensible position - once the house of cards falls down, all gone ?
We all have done similar things. I once shared similar views as they hold. As I read God's word, I came to see verse after verse, passage after passage, that spoke to God's sovereignty and choice in saving me. My selfish and prideful arguing gave way to resting in God's grace alone.

I honestly believed I had chosen and simply didn't see my error until God made it very clear in His word. I have empathy for their blindness and believe God still loves them despite their struggle to comprehend God's amazing grace.
 
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How does the Father give them to Yeshua if God did not choose them? Choice is obviously implied in the verse.

I know you claim to have chosen to follow God and you truly believe it. You can continue to believe that if you want. You just can't get it from John 6:37. John 6:37 presents God's choice first before you ever follow. Give God His due praise in choosing you who, like me, were never worthy of His gracious choice, yet He chose you anyway.

He gives them once they hear and learn.
 
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Were you willing to 'come' to Jesus in order to have life?
You keep asking a question that is not supported in the Bible.

The Bible says that God makes us alive, then we respond and come to worship Him.

You keep reversing this process despite the evidence of God's word. You have become a broken record that asks an illogical question over and over again.
 
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You keep asking a question that is not supported in the Bible.

The Bible says that God makes us alive, then we respond and come to worship Him.

You keep reversing this process despite the evidence of God's word. You have become a broken record that asks an illogical question over and over again.

Do you not see it supported in the Bible?

Please give verses which say God makes us alive, then we respond and 'come' to Him. And please do not use the WCF nor Canons of Dordt. Those are not my Bible.
 
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You seem to have a huge problem with memory and understanding english ,
since you often ask the same question in your posts
and don't accept the answers already posted several times.
The TRUTH is in previous posts, so if you want to know go read them; (IF and ONLY IF YHWH PERMITS; no one is able to know anything, UNLESS THE FATHER IN HEAVEN GRANTS IT)

Thank you for your nice compliments. Did you ask God if He permitted you to say such loving things?
 
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Do you not see it supported in the Bible?

Please give verses which say God makes us alive, then we respond and 'come' to Him. And please do not use the WCF nor Canons of Dordt. Those are not my Bible.

Thanks.

I'll share a favorite passage.

Ephesians 2:1-10
[1]Once you were dead because of your disobedience and your many sins.
[2]You used to live in sin, just like the rest of the world, obeying the devil—the commander of the powers in the unseen world. He is the spirit at work in the hearts of those who refuse to obey God.
[3]All of us used to live that way, following the passionate desires and inclinations of our sinful nature. By our very nature we were subject to God’s anger, just like everyone else.
[4]But God is so rich in mercy, and he loved us so much,
[5]that even though we were dead because of our sins, he gave us life when he raised Christ from the dead. (It is only by God’s grace that you have been saved!)
[6]For he raised us from the dead along with Christ and seated us with him in the heavenly realms because we are united with Christ Jesus.
[7]So God can point to us in all future ages as examples of the incredible wealth of his grace and kindness toward us, as shown in all he has done for us who are united with Christ Jesus.
[8]God saved you by his grace when you believed. And you can’t take credit for this; it is a gift from God.
[9]Salvation is not a reward for the good things we have done, so none of us can boast about it.
[10]For we are God’s masterpiece. He has created us anew in Christ Jesus, so we can do the good things he planned for us long ago.
 
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