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So one verse supports your entire theory? So much so that you've listed the same verse twice?How does the Father give them to Yeshua if God did not choose them? Choice is obviously implied in the verse.
I know you claim to have chosen to follow God and you truly believe it. You can continue to believe that if you want. You just can't get it from John 6:37. John 6:37 presents God's choice first before you ever follow. Give God His due praise in choosing you who, like me, were never worthy of His gracious choice, yet He chose you anyway.
Wrong. If he lists his opinion with no supporting verses, that's his opinion.That's ONLY your opinion.
So one verse supports your entire theory? So much so that you've listed the same verse twice?
Now what verse shows that God does not draw everyone?
We all have done similar things. I once shared similar views as they hold. As I read God's word, I came to see verse after verse, passage after passage, that spoke to God's sovereignty and choice in saving me. My selfish and prideful arguing gave way to resting in God's grace alone.Maybe it's just my OPINION, but it looks like they are trying to support or defend an indefensible position - once the house of cards falls down, all gone ?
How does the Father give them to Yeshua if God did not choose them? Choice is obviously implied in the verse.
I know you claim to have chosen to follow God and you truly believe it. You can continue to believe that if you want. You just can't get it from John 6:37. John 6:37 presents God's choice first before you ever follow. Give God His due praise in choosing you who, like me, were never worthy of His gracious choice, yet He chose you anyway.
Your own posts accuse you.
That's the difference - you provided the evidence yourself, and so you are judged by your own words.
That is not what the verse states at all. I cannot make the verse say something it doesn't say.He gives them once they hear and learn.
You keep asking a question that is not supported in the Bible.Were you willing to 'come' to Jesus in order to have life?
You keep asking a question that is not supported in the Bible.
The Bible says that God makes us alive, then we respond and come to worship Him.
You keep reversing this process despite the evidence of God's word. You have become a broken record that asks an illogical question over and over again.
You seem to have a huge problem with memory and understanding english ,
since you often ask the same question in your posts
and don't accept the answers already posted several times.
The TRUTH is in previous posts, so if you want to know go read them; (IF and ONLY IF YHWH PERMITS; no one is able to know anything, UNLESS THE FATHER IN HEAVEN GRANTS IT)
Do you not see it supported in the Bible?
Please give verses which say God makes us alive, then we respond and 'come' to Him. And please do not use the WCF nor Canons of Dordt. Those are not my Bible.