A year alone on Mars? For how much money?

[Radrook]

Why the obsession with/against subterranean Martian boogedies?

I'm on board with the do it for free crew, but I have a few questions. How bout the quarters/living conditioners offered? Soundproof building, plenty of good food/drink? What things are allowed to keep busy with? Will doing some type of research be a part of the deal?

Aside from going to Mars, what exactly would be the arrangements?

Oh, and how thick is that floor going to be?

Why the obsession? Because I would not enjoy a nasty surprise of that kind.
NASA would shrug it off by saying. "Whoops!" But that's no consolation to me.

About the quarters, well, there are many designs that can be used. Let's say that they will provide you with the design you prefer.

Martian Shelters Ideas
http://www.imagineeringezine.com/e-zine/mars-makeshelter.html

Concerning extra amenities, remember, this is supposed to be a test of human endurance in total solitude.
You can live it up once you get back home and get paid.
But until then, certain amenities will be kept at a bare minimum or not allowed.
In short, they won't want to make it a walk in the park.
They will provide Just enough so that you won't go insane from boredom and lack of mental exercise.

Exercise equipment to keep you healthy physically will be provided.

Some spacesuits in case you wanna go outside now and then.

Some weapons in case you feel you might need to defend yourself against some unlikely and presently unsuspected biological anomaly.

A collection of books.

A collection of Music

Perhaps an assortment of experiments you can do for NASA.


a collection of CDs.
Triple redundancy for each player in case of a breakdown.

Here is a relevant video

BTW
The return trip would need to wait 22 months for Earth to come around and close the distance between the two planets again. So the stay there would of necessity have to be that long. Since that's almost two years lets throw in a couple of million dollars more as an incentive.

 

[Kenny'sID]

Why the obsession? Because I would not enjoy a nasty surprise of that kind.
NASA would shrug it off by saying. "Whoops!" But that's no consolation to me.

About the quarters, well, there are many designs that can be used. Let's say that they will provide you with the design you prefer.

Martian Shelters Ideas
http://www.imagineeringezine.com/e-zine/mars-makeshelter.html

Concerning extra amenities, remember, this is supposed to be a test of human endurance in total solitude.
You can live it up once you get back home and get paid.
But until then, certain amenities will be kept at a bare minimum or not allowed.
In short, they won't want to make it a walk in the park.
They will provide Just enough so that you won't go insane from boredom and lack of mental exercise.

Exercise equipment to keep you healthy physically will be provided.

Some spacesuits in case you wanna go outside now and then.

Some weapons in case you feel you might need to defend yourself against some unlikely and presently unsuspected biological anomaly.

A collection of books.

A collection of Music

Perhaps an assortment of experiments you can do for NASA.


a collection of CDs.
Triple redundancy for each player in case of a breakdown.

Here is a relevant video

BTW
The return trip would need to wait 22 months for Earth to come around and close the distance between the two planets again. So the stay there would of necessity have to be that long. Since that's almost two years lets throw in a couple of million dollars more as an incentive.

I'm in! at least that's what my good senses says.

But when I think twice, the risk just for money or even for nothing would be foolish from a Christian standpoint.

Then again, all the people that could be helped with that money....

decisions, decisions....I'll have to get back to you.

 

[Radrook]

I'm in! at least that's what my good senses says.

But when I think twice, the risk just for money or even for nothing would be foolish from a Christian standpoint.

Then again, all the people that could be helped with that money....

decisions, decisions....I'll have to get back to you.

Why would it be foolish from a Christian standpoint if the money can be used to do good once you are back on Earth?
Surely our Lord God can see that many a good deed can be accomplished via money-right?
If indeed w die during the attempt, doesn't Bible say we should be willing to sacrifice our lives on behalf of our friends just as Jesus did on our behalf?

John 15:13
New International Version
Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one's life for one's friends.


John 10:11
I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down His life for the sheep.


1 John 3:16
By this we know what love is: Jesus laid down His life for us, and we ought to lay down our lives for our brothers.

 

[RDKirk]

I think its highly unlikely that:

1) there is something lurking below
and
2) that it is dangerous to me​

Am I 100% sure? No.
Does the possibility change my mind? No
OB

Besides unstable geography, we mean.

 

[Shemjaza]

Unstable geography seems a very weird reason to be worried about Mars.

Now obviously it's hard to get a very good look at the place, but all evidence points to it being geologically dead.

If you want dangerous geology I have been to Tokyo, Awkland and San Francisco... all cool places, but i could have been buried in an earth quake.

 

[durangodawood]

I want 1 million dollars. And a fruit plate.

 

[Occams Barber]

Unstable geography seems a very weird reason to be worried about Mars.

Now obviously it's hard to get a very good look at the place, but all evidence points to it being geologically dead.

If you want dangerous geology I have been to Tokyo, Awkland and San Francisco... all cool places, but i could have been buried in an earth quake.

I thought it was Orcland?
OB

 

[Radrook]

Unstable geography seems a very weird reason to be worried about Mars.

Now obviously it's hard to get a very good look at the place, but all evidence points to it being geologically dead.

If you want dangerous geology I have been to Tokyo, Awkland and San Francisco... all cool places, but i could have been buried in an earth quake.

Yep! Global sandstorms, electrically charged dust devils, and the occasional debris zooming in on you from space are far more annoying possibilities on Mars. Of these the most dangerous is getting hit by a space rock since the shelter can stand up to the other two.

 

[Shemjaza]

Yep! Global sandstorms, electrically charged dust devils, and the occasional debris zooming in on you from space are far more annoying possibilities on Mars. Of these the most dangerous is getting hit by a space rock since the shelter can stand up to the other two.

But given the thinness of the atmosphere the storms are pretty light, and why would space rocks be any more common then on Earth?

 

[Radrook]

But given the thinness of the atmosphere the storms are pretty light, and why would space rocks be any more common then on Earth?

True, the atmosphere is so thin that the winds lack the punch that they have here. The rocks I am referring to are meteorites that might puncture the shelter. Perhaps that's why an underground shelter or one in a cave might be a better idea. Since the atmosphere is thinner on Mars then far more space rocks would get through as opposed to Earth where they tend to heat up and disintegrate before hitting the ground. But even an explosive disintegration close enough above the shelter might obliterate it as is evident by what happened at Tunguska Siberia where a comet or an asteroid exploded above the forest and trees were leveled for hundreds of square miles immediately below the blast.

Tunguska Siberia
http://history1900s.about.com/od/1900s/qt/Tunguska.htm

But then again that was due to the thickness of our atmosphere.
So on mars a direct hit is far more likely than objects undergoing explosive disintegrations.
In fact, due to the Martian atmosphere's thinness, that scenario might even be impossible on a significant scale. It also depends on what the object is composed of. A large iron meteor isn't going to totally disintegrate even entering Earth's atmosphere. But a small icy comet entering the Martian atmosphere might. So those are the variables involved.

 

[Resha Caner]

What would it take for you to spend a year alone on Mars without any communication with Earth. I mean, the human imagination tends to go haywire after a while and what was formerly brushed aside as mere wind-blown sand against the shelters hull can begin sounding like the scratches of claws threatening to break in. But I imagine that some extremely materialistically motivated human might just give it a go.

If I had adequate resources to keep myself occupied, I'd do it for free. I'm not one who needs a lot of human contact. However, I'm not sure my family would like the idea. It would seem there would need to be a purpose for doing it.

 

[Radrook]

If I had adequate resources to keep myself occupied, I'd do it for free. I'm not one who needs a lot of human contact. However, I'm not sure my family would like the idea. It would seem there would need to be a purpose for doing it.

I'm more than sure that a cool billion-dollar tax-free offer would tend to be exceedingly persuasive to family members.

BTW
With the present propulsion systems we would need to extend that stay to 22 months in order to wait for the Earth to approach Mars again and make a return trip possible within a reasonable time-frame. So I guess the hypothetical must include a different far more efficient propulsion system.

 

[Michael]

You might want to factor this effect into your answers:

http://circa.com/scitech/science/ch...-damage-could-set-in-on-humans-bound-for-mars

It seems to me that the first thing we'll need if we intend to start physically exploring our solar system is a good set of deflector shields, otherwise the results could be catastrophic.

 

[Radrook]

You might want to factor this effect into your answers:

http://circa.com/scitech/science/ch...-damage-could-set-in-on-humans-bound-for-mars

It seems to me that the first thing we'll need if we intend to start physically exploring our solar system is a good set of deflector shields, otherwise the results could be catastrophic.

Then they need to wait until traveling there doesn't constitute the possibility of it being a suicide mission. from a biblical viewpoint, it is more than obvious that Mars was not designed for human habitation. Neither is there a biblical mandate for us to populate or terraforming it.

The hazards involved in getting there can be understood as barriers placed there on purpose in order to keep us Earth-bound. To be honest, the mere existence of such a place is extremely baffling from a creation perspective. A sky which nobody sees. Sunsets and nightfall's nobody perceives. The same applies to all the other planets which just seem to exist for existence's sake.

 

[D3thAdd3r]

I would do it for absolutely free, for science, for humanity! Except I feel my internet speed would greatly suffer there... never mind.

 

[Radrook]

I would do it for absolutely free, for science, for humanity! Except I feel my internet speed would greatly suffer there... never mind.

That is very altruistic of you.

 

[Eudaimonist]

What would it take for you to spend a year alone on Mars without any communication with Earth.

Alone? Completely alone? Any human would suffer from the lack of human contact. Even extreme introverts would likely suffer greatly after a year. There's a reason why solitary confinement is a punishment, and why humans stuck alone on desert islands had gone "balmy".

If I were in my twenties again, and if going to Mars meant having at least some human company, I would pay a great deal of money to go there. They wouldn't have to pay me. I would pay them.

I wouldn't care so much about the risks. Sure, I could die younger as a result. But I would have gone to Mars.


eudaimonia,

Mark

 

[Radrook]

Alone? Completely alone? Any human would suffer from the lack of human contact. Even extreme introverts would likely suffer greatly after a year. There's a reason why solitary confinement is a punishment, and why humans stuck alone on desert islands had gone "balmy".

If I were in my twenties again, and if going to Mars meant having at least some human company, I would pay a great deal of money to go there. They wouldn't have to pay me. I would pay them.

I wouldn't care so much about the risks. Sure, I could die younger as a result. But I would have gone to Mars.


eudaimonia,

Mark

Very understandable. After all, a return trip in a year at present propulsion capabilities isn't possible. So it would be a stay of about 20 months until the Earth comes around again and closes the orbital distance. Even then we would need to employ a gravitational assist from Venus just to get the ship there to you on schedule. Hopefully our propulsion systems will improve dramatically in the near future and make all that hassle unnecessary or a minimal inconvenience.

BTW

You are right. Solitary confinement is indeed a p[punishment. However, some folks in prison prefer it to being placed in the same cell with a bestial inmate who might attempt to harm them in many a diverse manner. The boxer Hurricane spent most of his prison sentence in Solitary and preferred it that way. Others seek solitary by misbehaving. I think I would do the same.

 

[Radrook]

I want 1 million dollars. And a fruit plate.

Probably might have to drink filtered urine on the way there and back.

 

[Greenlee]

Did nobody read the Martian?! I'm out. Period.