Ten Commandments still valid so says Bible and pro-Sunday Scholars

[Travis93]

As for the wrong teachers,
Pray for them, but don't follow them nor trust them.
(men teaching on tv or intentional broadcasts teaching lawlessness)

3 John 1:11 Beloved, follow not that which is evil, but that which is good. He that doeth good is of God, but he that doeth evil hath not seen God.

 

[disciple1]

As for the wrong teachers,
Pray for them, but don't follow them nor trust them.
(men teaching on tv or intentional broadcasts teaching lawlessness)

I can't pray for someone in slavery Jesus said not to pray for the world.

 

[disciple1]

3 John 1:11 Beloved, follow not that which is evil, but that which is good. He that doeth good is of God, but he that doeth evil hath not seen God.

Study the bible maybe God will have mercy on you like he did me.

 

[Travis93]

John chapter 8 verses 31,32
To the Jews who believed him Jesus said if you hold to my teaching you will know the truth and the truth will set you free.
Study the bible maybe you'll have something true to share, instead of slavery.

Psalms 119:142 Thy righteousness is an everlasting righteousness, and thy law is truth.
Psalms 119:151 Thou art near, O LORD, and all thy commandments are truth.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

As for the wrong teachers,
Pray for them, but don't follow them nor trust them.
(men teaching on tv or intentional broadcasts teaching lawlessness)

I can't pray for someone in slavery Jesus said not to pray for the world.

You refuse to pray for the very ones teaching you !?!?

 

[disciple1]

As for the wrong teachers,
Pray for them, but don't follow them nor trust them.
(men teaching on tv or intentional broadcasts teaching lawlessness)

You refuse to pray for the very ones teaching you !?!?

Your not teaching me I've studied the bible 34 years sometimes all day long, I don't think you know what your talking about.
Study the bible look all it can do for you.
Matthew chapter 4 verse 4
Jesus answered, "It is written: 'Man shall not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.'"
Romans chapter 1 verse 28
Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done.

John chapter 8 verse 31,32
To the Jews who had believed him, Jesus said, " If you hold to my teaching, you are really my disciples. Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.
2 John
9 Anyone who runs ahead and does not continue in the teaching of Christ does not have God; whoever continues in the teaching has both the Father and the Son.
Job chapter 23 verse 12
I have not departed from the commands of his lips; I have treasured the words of his mouth more than my daily bread.

Matthew 11
28 “Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. 29 Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30 For my yoke is easy and my burden is light.”
Luke chapter 21
33 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.
Romans chapter 10
17 Consequently, faith comes from hearing the message, and the message is heard through the word about Christ.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

but he that doeth evil hath not seen God.

In the New Testament, which disciples
does Paul say by Jesus revelation is he that doeth evil? (whose disciples are they?)

And which disciples does Jesus say through Paul (or elsewhere)
are not doing evil, but righteousness ?

Thank you!

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Your not teaching me I've studied the bible 34 years sometimes all day long

So? That's what the PHarisees and Scribe and religious teaches who crucified Jesus did too.
And they refused God's Grace and refused to obey Jesus also.
All that study didn't help for one second.

 

[Travis93]

Jesus said whoever will do and teach the law and the prophets will be great in the kingdom of heaven (Matthew 5:17-19), that heaven and earth will pass before the law does (Luke 16:17), and that we must listen to teachers of the law (Matthew 23:2-3) but not after their works (meaning don't bother with the oral law traditions like hand washing before eating).

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

As for the wrong teachers,
Pray for them, but don't follow them nor trust them.
(men teaching on tv or intentional broadcasts teaching lawlessness)

Your not teaching me I've studied the bible 34 years sometimes all day long, I don't think you know what your talking about.

RIGHT !
Someone else taught you lawlessness, NOT ME !

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Jesus said whoever will go and the law and the prophets will be great in the kingdom of heaven (Matthew 5:17-19), that heaven and earth will pass before the law does (Luke 16:17), and that we must listen to teachers of the law (Matthew 23:2-3) but not after their works (meaning don't bother with the oral law traditions like hand washing before eating).

(I think some words got lost in the first sentence, btw).
Yes, "we" (who are born again, set apart, by Yhwh, in Jesus), ;
but
to whom do the lawless listen ?
They don't listen to Jesus nor to Moses nor to teachers of the law.
So , then , who condones living lives of lawlessness today?

And more importantly, how can they turn to Jesus to be forgiven !?!?

 

[Travis93]

(I think some words got lost in the first sentence, btw).
Yes, "we" (who are born again, set apart, by Yhwh, in Jesus), ;
but
to whom do the lawless listen ?
They don't listen to Jesus nor to Moses nor to teachers of the law.
So , then , who condones living lives of lawlessness today?

And more importantly, how can they turn to Jesus to be forgiven !?!?

They listen to false prophets.
Isaiah 30:9 That this is a rebellious people, lying children, children that will not hear the law of the LORD:
Isaiah 30:10 Which say to the seers, See not; and to the prophets, Prophesy not unto us right things, speak unto us smooth things, prophesy deceits:

Jeremiah 23:21 I have not sent these prophets, yet they ran: I have not spoken to them, yet they prophesied.
Jeremiah 23:22 But if they had stood in my counsel, and had caused my people to hear my words, then they should have turned them from their evil way, and from the evil of their doings.

 

[BobRyan]

Being under the law means being under the penalty of breaking the law. To get out from under the law, you start following it. Here's an example. Say a person is caught stealing something, but the person they stole from has mercy on them and pardons them by grace when they beg for forgiveness. Is the thief expected to change their ways and not steal anymore, or is the law against theft abolished so they are free to go right back to doing it?

The thief is not justified by having kept the law their whole life, they broke it and deserve punishment, but when they repent they can turn their life around and become righteous. By changing their ways, they are justified apart from having kept the law, but not making void the law, but rather establishing it to never steal again.

Faith without works is dead and cannot save you (James 2:14-26), and if you say you believe in Jesus but don't keep the commandments you are a liar (1 John 2:3-6). You must repent and prove it by your deeds, as Paul says in Acts 26:20.

We get out from under the condemnation of the law - by accepting the Gospel where Christ pays our debt - demanded by the LAW as transgressors. Then the NEW Covenant - New birth - takes place and God writes His Law on the heart - so that instead of walking in rebellion we walk in the spirit that the LAW of God might be "fulfilled in US who walk not after the flesh - but after the Spirit" Romans 8:4-9

 

[BobRyan]

Romans chapter 6
14 For sin shall no longer be your master, because you are not under the law, but under grace.
( I'm sorry your under law and I'm under grace .

I am sorry your position does not allow you to read more than a tiny tiny "snip" of Romans 6.

================================= expand your reading of the Bible.

Romans 6

Rom 6
1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? 2 Certainly not! How shall we who died to sin live any longer in it? 3 Or do you not know that as many of us as were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into His death?
..

12 Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body, that you should obey it in its lusts. 13 And do not present your members as instruments of unrighteousness to sin, but present yourselves to God as being alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness to God. 14 For sin shall not have dominion over you, for you are not under law but under grace.


"SIN IS transgression of the LAW" 1 John 3:4

Romans 6

From Slaves of Sin to Slaves of God
15 What then? Shall we sin because we are not under law but under grace? Certainly not! 16 Do you not know that to whom you present yourselves slaves to obey, you are that one’s slaves whom you obey, whether of sin leading to death, or of obedience leading to righteousness? 17 But God be thanked that though you were slaves of sin, yet you obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine to which you were delivered. 18 And having been set free from sin, you became slaves of righteousness. 19 I speak in human terms because of the weakness of your flesh. For just as you presented your members as slaves of uncleanness, and of lawlessness leading to more lawlessness, so now present your members as slaves of righteousness for holiness.

20 For when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard to righteousness. 21 What fruit did you have then in the things of which you are now ashamed? For the end of those things is death.

 

[BobRyan]

John chapter 8 verses 31,32
To the Jews who believed him Jesus said if you hold to my teaching you will know the truth and the truth will set you free.
Study the bible maybe you'll have something true to share, instead of slavery.

"Love Me and KEEP my Commandments" EX 20:6
"If you LOVE Me KEEP My Commandments" John 14:15
"The saints KEEP the Commandments of God AND their faith in Jesus" Rev 14:12

 

[Travis93]

"Love Me and KEEP my Commandments" EX 20:6
"If you LOVE Me KEEP My Commandments" John 14:15
"The saints KEEP the Commandments of God AND their faith in Jesus" Rev 14:12

1 John 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
1 John 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
1 John 2:5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
1 John 2:6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.

1 John 5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
1 John 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

 

[bugkiller]

As for the wrong teachers,
Pray for them, but don't follow them nor trust them.
(men teaching on tv or intentional broadcasts teaching lawlessness)

You refuse to pray for the very ones teaching you !?!?

You're not teaching him or me anything.

bugkiller

 

[BobRyan]

1 John 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
1 John 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
1 John 2:5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
1 John 2:6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.

1 John 5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
1 John 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

Good point.

But of course it is - the Bible so then... irrefutable.

 

[bugkiller]

In the New Testament, which disciples
does Paul say by Jesus revelation is he that doeth evil? (whose disciples are they?)

And which disciples does Jesus say through Paul (or elsewhere)
are not doing evil, but righteousness ?

Thank you!

Your post looks and reads like you're accusing.

bugkiller

 

[bugkiller]

They listen to false prophets.
Isaiah 30:9 That this is a rebellious people, lying children, children that will not hear the law of the LORD:
Isaiah 30:10 Which say to the seers, See not; and to the prophets, Prophesy not unto us right things, speak unto us smooth things, prophesy deceits:

Jeremiah 23:21 I have not sent these prophets, yet they ran: I have not spoken to them, yet they prophesied.
Jeremiah 23:22 But if they had stood in my counsel, and had caused my people to hear my words, then they should have turned them from their evil way, and from the evil of their doings.

Yep the NT is full of them.

bugkiller