Appearance of Age and Evidence for Special Creation

[USincognito]

And what happens when an unfossilized dinosaur
bone is found?

We don't know because that's never happened.

 

[pat34lee]

If a place ordered its workers that no matter what evidence they found the theory of evolution was still correct, would those workers have been ordered not to use the scientific method?

I'm pretty sure I answered that, but I'm checking to
make sure.

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[pat34lee]

We don't know because that's never happened.

Don't sidestep. Answer. You know exactly what
will happen because it happens regularly.

 

[RickG]

There is a difference between proving that evolutionists
have misused the scientific method and abandoning it.
Your assertion is not valid.

The link I provided was to a creation science website where they trashed the scientific method and made up their own. Creation science does not use the scientific method, not in the least.

 

[bhsmte]

The link I provided was to a creation science website where they trashed the scientific method and made up their own. Creation science does not use the scientific method, not in the least.

Because the scientific method is like Kryptonite to biblical creationism.

 

[pat34lee]

The link I provided was to a creation science website where they trashed the scientific method and made up their own. Creation science does not use the scientific method, not in the least.

I quoted directly from that link. They 'trashed' the
way that people today misuse the scientific method.
Where were they wrong in that article?

 

[pat34lee]

Because the scientific method is like Kryptonite to biblical creationism.

So you think creationism is super? Nice.

 

[bhsmte]

So you think creationism is super? Nice.

It is.

Super __________!

 

[AV1611VET]

Because the scientific method is like Kryptonite to biblical creationism.

The only thing the scientific method puts in its place is something the scientific method can study.

Biblical creationism cannot be studied by the scientific method.

God didn't use science to create the universe.

 

[RickG]

I quoted directly from that link. They 'trashed' the
way that people today misuse the scientific method.
Where were they wrong in that article?

The entire article is a Gish gallop ranting falsehoods one after the other. Creation science doesn't even perform any original research which is the very basis of the scientific method. What hypothesis have they proposed, tested and verified? NONE. All they do is take science from the mainstream and misrepresent it. And that's their best work. Most of it is just plain made up garbage.

 

[Hoghead1]

There is a difference between proving that evolutionists
have misused the scientific method and abandoning it.
Your assertion is not valid.


"Observation and reproducible experimentation are the foundations of science and as such are the established facts upon which the various hypotheses, theories, and natural laws rest. To portray any hypothesis or theory as fact is a clear misapplication of the scientific method.

Hypotheses must be verifiable or falsifiable through observation and reproducible experimentation to be considered a legitimate participant in the scientific method. Various hypotheses concerning the age and formation of our universe (the Big Bang and multiverse hypotheses) and the development of living systems (the Darwinian evolution hypothesis) are routinely taught in Western school systems as scientific fact, but none of these hypotheses have been confirmed through observation or experimentation. Alternate hypotheses are often not allowed to be even whispered.

We need to reclaim the scientific method and teach it correctly."

N o, that is not at all accurate. Evolution is taught because it is a central tenet in science. And the way it got to be a central tenet, is that it is so strongly backed by hard evidence. Also, evolution is not really taught in the public schools. I had advanced biology and we never talked abut evolution at all.

 

[USincognito]

Don't sidestep. Answer. You know exactly what
will happen because it happens regularly.

It does? Then you can provide examples of unfossilized dinosaur bones being found and we'll see what the reaction was.

 

[Subduction Zone]

And what happens when an unfossilized dinosaur
bone is found? There will be new theories, maybe
of wormholes to explain how it could be, because
they will not accept the age as young.

You do not seem to understand the massive evidence that tells us that the Earth is old and the total lack of evidence for a young Earth.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I'm pretty sure I answered that, but I'm checking to
make sure.

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Then why the nonsensical threat? Do you realize how you were wrong in that accusation yet?

 

[Subduction Zone]

The same as when they found a ... what was it ... Tiktaalik rosae, after declaring them extinct: nothing.

They'll just move the goalposts.

If you Google "rabbits in the precambrian" on Wikipedia, even some scientists say that won't invalidate evolution.

They make the rules.

And when those rules are broken, they just write new ones.

You seem to be very confused. They never found a live Tiktaalik rosae. I can't think of any ancient species that was declared extinct that has been found alive today.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Prove them wrong, if you think they are.
How can you show God to be wrong and
science correct? By definition, if a fact
contradicts truth (or seems to), the fact
is wrong, or your interpretation of the
fact is wrong.

They have been shown to be wrong in almost every article that they write. They have been shown to be liars in many of those articles too. No one that understands science pays any heed at all to those sort of sites.

 

[AV1611VET]

You seem to be very confused.

Sorry, my bad.

I meant coelacanth.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Sorry, my bad.

I meant coelacanth.

Coelacanth is not a species, it is a whole order of fish. We for example are primates and conflating a modern coelacanth with an old one would be as big of a mistake as a man with a lemur. The reason that they were thought to be extinct is that the shallow water ones did die off. Deep sea fossils are almost always lost to time. Plate tectonics means that they will find their end going down a subduction zone.

 

[AV1611VET]

Coelacanth is not a species, it is a whole order of fish.

Okay ... so then they thought a whole order of fish went extinct, until they found a live one?

So it wasn't just one species then, but a whole slew of them?

That's even worse.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Okay ... so then they thought a whole order of fish went extinct, until they found a live one?

So it wasn't just one species then, but a whole slew of them?

That's even worse.

No, it's not. You either did not read or did not understand the explanation given to you.