How Did Fire Survive Noah's Flood?

[PsychoSarah]

When it comes to irrational behaviour you bet your life I am 100% against it in all it's forms.I am here because as an Englishman I am fascinated that millions of Americans seem to think it's quite acceptable to believe in the supernatural for no other reason than they want to, that to me just blows my mind, it means that millions of Americans are totally irrational but they think they are quite normal, it must be like living in a huge insane asylum where they think you're one of them if you keep your mouth shut.
The American politics section is so so crazy, I never know what craziness will come out next, it's like going to the zoo, you never know what is in the next cage, the US health system kills tens of thousands of Americans for no reason every year and most Americans don't even notice, it's one crazy country so what's not to find fascinating?

You act like there aren't nut balls in every country, though I agree that American politics, particularly in the United States, is like watching monkeys have a poo flinging fight.

Also, been to the United States myself. The degree of religion being prominent varies by area, with some having such a concentration of churches that there is one every block, and others having only one or two within 20 kilometers or more. A country that size is bound to have inconsistent, regional culture. Heck, I have been to a place in Michigan (the state that looks like a mitten) where the number of Muslims was higher than the number of Christians. I think it was called Deerborn?

In any case, the stupid and extreme of any country like to be vocal, so it is hardly fair to judge the whole country based on the people willing to put themselves in the spotlight.

 

[Jay Follett]

In any case, the stupid and extreme of any country like to be vocal, so it is hardly fair to judge the whole country based on the people willing to put themselves in the spotlight.

I'm not judging the whole country, I know that at least half of them are solid clear thinking people but millions upon millions are not, if half the population believe that Adam and Eve were real people that's 150 million people.

 

[The Cadet]

Forcing myself to be polite repeatedly online comes over to my interactions in person a bit.

It just makes me more aggressive.

You seem infatuated with what other people believe or dont believe.

Do you expect everyone to be just like you?

I can't speak for him, but I personally feel that what other people believe can be very important. Case in point: I think you and I can both agree that it's better if people who believe in young earth creationism didn't vote in school board elections, or pulled their heads out of their kiesters to do so, but neither is the case. That's why we have a woman on the Texas board of education who thinks Obama is a Kenyan Muslim and the earth is 6000 years old. Beliefs inform actions, which can have fairly extreme consequences. Personal preference plays a role, obviously, and I'd rather not see a whole world of clones, but I'd much rather have a world where nobody is wrong about such objective matters as the age of the earth, the shape of our solar system, and the origin of species.

 

[PsychoSarah]

I'm not judging the whole country, I know that at least half of them are solid clear thinking people but millions upon millions are not, if half the population believe that Adam and Eve were real people that's 150 million people.

Actually, I think the percentage of theists in the United States is closer to the high 60s or low 70s, and slowly falling.

 

[Jay Follett]

You seem infatuated with what other people believe or dont believe.
Do you expect everyone to be just like you?

No of course not but as an Englishman all I ask is that they keep their beliefs to themselves, if they don't then I am as free as they are to push my beliefs as far down their throats as they push theirs down mine.

 

[PsychoSarah]

No of course not but as an Englishman all I ask is that they keep their beliefs to themselves, if they don't then I am as free as they are to push my beliefs as far down their throats as they push theirs down mine.

And that's why you go to a religious forum and practically seek out people that will shove religion down your throat. You do realize most people don't do that in countries where freedom of religion is the law, right?

Also, since when has other people behaving badly been a valid excuse to behave just as bad?

 

[Jay Follett]

And that's why you go to a religious forum and practically seek out people that will shove religion down your throat. You do realize most people don't do that in countries where freedom of religion is the law, right?

Americans don't force their beliefs on other Americans?? please take another look, see how many schools in the US do not teach evolution, see how many churches preach politics from the pulpit.

 

[PsychoSarah]

Americans don't force their beliefs on other Americans?? please take another look, see how many schools in the US do not teach evolution, see how many churches preach politics from the pulpit.

I didn't say no one does it, and have acknowledged that those that do like to speak loudly. However, not teaching evolution and actively teaching creationism are two different things, and the latter is explicitly illegal in the United States.

 

[Hank77]

The Ark as described in Genesis would have been extremely poorly ventilated. Think of all of the methane build up.

Which makes me hope that they had a good design, and stock, of pooper scoopers on board.

 

[Jay Follett]

However, not teaching evolution and actively teaching creationism are two different things, and the latter is explicitly illegal in the United States.

Perhaps that's why so many schools do it and so many people deny evolution.

 

[bhsmte]

No of course not but as an Englishman all I ask is that they keep their beliefs to themselves, if they don't then I am as free as they are to push my beliefs as far down their throats as they push theirs down mine.

Would you not expect, voluntarily visiting a christian aite, is going to involve folks telling you about their faith beliefs??????

I for one, fully expect people of faith to share their beliefs and for others to disagree with me. It isnt what people believe that interests me, it is how they justify their beliefs. If someone tells me they believe on faith alone, i never question them. If they claim to have objective evidence for their faith belief and or misrepresent well evidenced science, then i challenge them.

 

[bhsmte]

Perhaps that's why so many schools do it and so many people deny evolution.

Do you have a list of these schools?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Do you have a list of these schools?

I have no list, but you might want to check the schools in Texas and even worse in Louisiana.

 

[Jay Follett]

Would you not expect, voluntarily visiting a christian aite, is going to involve folks telling you about their faith beliefs??????

Faith as you say is one thing, it's when they say that they know for certain it starts to irritate.

I for one, fully expect people of faith to share their beliefs and for others to disagree with me. It isnt what people believe that interests me, it is how they justify their beliefs. If someone tells me they believe on faith alone, i never question them. If they claim to have objective evidence for their faith belief and or misrepresent well evidenced science, then i challenge them.

Which is just about every time they write anything I suspect, that's why they have Christian only places on the forum, that always fascinated me, why do Christians never question why they need those places if what they are saying is the truth? I suspect they know the answer already.

 

[bhsmte]

Faith as you say is one thing, it's when they say that they know for certain it starts to irritate.Which is just about every time they write anything I suspect, that's why they have Christian only places on the forum, that always fascinated me, why do Christians never question why they need those places if what they are saying is the truth? I suspect they know the answer already.

You are easily irritated, by things you have no control over.

Must be rough going through life like that.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Faith as you say is one thing, it's when they say that they know for certain it starts to irritate.Which is just about every time they write anything I suspect, that's why they have Christian only places on the forum, that always fascinated me, why do Christians never question why they need those places if what they are saying is the truth? I suspect they know the answer already.

And I suspect that some of them know the harm that the literalists are doing to their religion which is why atheists are allowed here. They want to temper the denial of reality a bit. Seriously, litrealists probably do far more harm to Christianity than atheists do.

 

[bhsmte]

And I suspect that some of them know the harm that the literalists are doing to their religion which is why atheists are allowed here. They want to temper the denial of reality a bit. Seriously, litrealists probably do far more harm to Christianity than atheists do.

Indeed they do.

It is one of the main reasons, young people leave religion.

 

[Jay Follett]

You are easily irritated, by things you have no control over.
Must be rough going through life like that.

I don't go through life being irritated, as soon as I leave here religion is gone.

 

[Jay Follett]

And I suspect that some of them know the harm that the literalists are doing to their religion which is why atheists are allowed here. They want to temper the denial of reality a bit. Seriously, litrealists probably do far more harm to Christianity than atheists do.

I agree.

 

[bhsmte]

I don't go through life being irritated, as soon as I leave here religion is gone.

But you come here to get irritated, over things you have no control over. Sounds like fun.