Hell doesn't exist and there is no eternal suffering, instead bad peolle just cease to exist

[Hentenza]

Laugh. Out. Loud! I can’t help but sense the excitement in your “There you go.” Don’t you just wish that the anathema pronounced by the Fifth Ecumenical Council was under divine inspiration? Then it would actually be authoritative …

Unlike this anathema which IS AUTHORITATIVE!
”I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting him who called you in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— not that there is another one, but there are some who trouble you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed.“
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭1‬:‭6‬-‭9‬ ‭ESV‬‬

Funny. Last time I checked, the Apostle Paul never mentioned anywhere, in any of his epistles, man being condemned to this wicked concept you call hell. Now listen to Paul’s declaration:

”But I do not account my life of any value nor as precious to myself, if only I may finish my course and the ministry that I received from the Lord Jesus, to testify to the gospel of the grace of God. And now, behold, I know that none of you among whom I have gone about proclaiming the kingdom will see my face again. Therefore I testify to you this day that I am innocent of the blood of all, for I did not shrink from declaring to you the whole counsel of God.“
‭‭Acts‬ ‭20‬:‭24‬-‭27‬ ‭ESV‬‬

Hmmmmmmm, I wonder how Paul could say such a thing and yet never mentioned man being condemned to hell? Was Paul a liar?

Me thinks you have an important decision to make. Shall you stand on the authoritative Scriptures which Paul declares to have proclaimed in its entirety, yet never having mentioning hell. OR, retreat to the safety net of your man made councils and their man made doctrines. I hope you jump off the anathematized bandwagon of man made doctrine and put your feet firmly and solely on the ROCK, against which all false doctrines meet their demise as they are smashed against he ROCK of TRUTH, which is Jesus …The Messiah.

You see … their/your anathema is the very anathema that the authoritative anathema anathematizes!

Laugh. Out. Loud! That just sounds so authoritative. So spiritual. I can see why you are so impressed by it …

Brother, you seem upset. Look, I am not the one with the unorthodox belief. UR is foreign to the gospel, a false doctrine, and a false teaching.

As far as Paul, here is what he teaches about unbelief.

“For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of people who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, because that which is known about God is evident within them; for God made it evident to them. For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, that is, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, being understood by what has been made, so that they are without excuse. For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their reasonings, and their senseless hearts were darkened. Claiming to be wise, they became fools, and they exchanged the glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the form of corruptible mankind, of birds, four-footed animals, and crawling creatures. Therefore God gave them up to vile impurity in the lusts of their hearts, so that their bodies would be dishonored among them. For they exchanged the truth of God for falsehood, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen. And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a depraved mind, to do those things that are not proper, people having been filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, greed, and evil; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, and malice; they are gossips, slanderers, haters of God, insolent, arrogant, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, without understanding, untrustworthy, unfeeling, and unmerciful; and although they know the ordinance of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but also approve of those who practice them.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭1‬:‭18‬-‭25‬, ‭28‬-‭32‬ ‭NASB2020‬‬

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These are the impious. These are the evil ones. These are the ones that Christ teaches in Matthew that are going to eternal punishment. There is not restoration for these.

 

[Jipsah]

If you take a moment and don’t make assumptions you will realize that I never made that argument.

Welll let's see, Scripture sez that God wants everyone to be saved. Yu sy it ain't gonna happen. Logic says that if God wants something to happen, it happens, end of. But you say no, in this case God wants everyone saved, but it ain't gonna happen, Only way that makes sense, either God wants it to happen, but for some reason He isn't going to make it happen. The idea seems astonishly goofy to me, God can do absolutely anything that He wants to do, barring idiotic stuff like making 12 sided triangles or outrunning Himself. Sp if He wants everyone saved, everyone gets saved, end of discussion. The only other way for Him not to do what something that He wants done is that He is unable to do whatever it is. I conside that view absurd on its face,

So what's your way around wanting something, and that something not happening? I'm really keen to hear it.

Everything that God does is by design and God does not have to wait for man to make up His mind.

Well there's a load off my mind.

If you take a moment and don’t make assumptions you will realize that I never made that argument.

You're argument is that not everyonr gets saved although Scripture says that's whjat God wants to happen. Ergo yiu have to believe that God either cannot or will not cause everyone to be saved. Which is it?

Everything that God does is by design

So you've said a time or thre. And...?

Maybe remove your assumptions before reading something.

I'm assuming that you're saying what you n=mean, but I do accept the possibility that for one reason or another you really don't.

What the scriptures do not support is UR or any version that promotes salvation after death.

Yeah, but they do, as mant examples that I and others on this thread so amply demonstrate. So that assertion simply doesn't fly.

Maybe remove your assumptions before reading something.

Sorry mate, but that doesn't mean anything.

What the scriptures do not support is UR

Let's go back to 1 Timothy 2 then:
1 First of all, then, I urge that petitions, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgivings be made for everyone,
2 for kings and all those who are in authority, so that we may lead a tranquil and quiet life in all godliness and dignity.
3 This is good, and it pleases God our Savior,
4 who wants everyone to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.

Your position is that God may want everyone saved (UR), but for some reason He ain't gonna get it. Why you believe that to be the case isn't at all clear.

1 Timothy 4:10, then:
10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

Note "Savior of ALL men, and ESPECIALLY those who believe.

"all men" may give you an opening to say it doesn't apply to women, but I reckon that's obviously not intended here.

Philipians 2
10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

The attempted evasion of those verses is that God will dragoon or scourge the damned into making that confession, but there is nothing at all in the context to suggest such an apalling charge. This is the "God painted as comparable to a human despot". You can go tht route if you like, but I'm not having any.

1 Corinthians 15
20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.
21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

Self explanatory, IMO, but I'm sure you can find something wrong with the punctuation or something.

Anyway, I'm going to bed. Google Universal Redemption verses and you'll get all you can stand. But the net-net is that your assertion that there's no basis for a belief in UR in the Bible is kinda prima facie evidence that you haven't read the New Testament very much. It's amazing how few Christuans have. YThey can tell you all about stuff in the Old Testament, a lot about Daniel, and a ton of the Revelation rolleyes, but they' haven't read enough of the Gospels and Epistles and all to be dangerous.
So yeah, do a little homework here. "There ain't no support for UR in the Bible" is just evidence that you've neglected your Bible reading