Theistic Evolutionist...

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Wow.

Okay, chief.

Carry on with your answers.

Good luck recognizing the [correct] answers when you see them.

Considering I've never seen you give any actual answers to questions, I'm not holding my breath.

 

[AV1611VET]

Good luck recognizing the [correct] answers when you see them.

Considering I've never seen you give any actual answers to questions, I'm not holding my breath.

Thanks for the QED.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Thanks for the QED.

Hey, if God wants to reveal the answers to me, I'll look to him to reveal them to me. And the last time I check, the Bible is not God.

 

[ecco]

You guys by your own disbelief are basically saying that Jesus and the things he did were all lies of the authors? How could they all be lying? To me to deny Christ and all the things he did, (the miracles, the teachings) you must think they are "made-up" then, and it's all one big conspiracy or something, highly illogical...

Have you ever heard the term "legends". The often have small beginnings. They grow over time, especially if people have an agenda for growing them.

Did you hear about the Jew teaching about love and charity?
Yeah, I heard he fed some people.
I heard he fed a thousand people.
What ever happened to him?
He died.
I heard he died and came back to life.
I heard he died, came back to life and went to heaven.
I heard his mother was a virgin, you know, like Dionysus' mother.
My friends and I think he is really cool.
My friends and I think he is really cool and have started to have group meetings to discuss him.
He died a hundred year ago, but I heard other stories about him from people who knew people who said they knew him and I'm going to write down some of the stuff they said.​

• Not all made up.
• Not all lies.
• Not all one big conspiracy.
• Not at all illogical given the times.

Do you believe that Joseph Smith got golden tablets from the angel Moroni? Fifteen million Mormons do. And that's just within the last 200 years.

 

[ecco]

I vote we teach the Bible in school, so that future scientists and laity alike will know what it is they're railing against.

How's that?

I vote we teach all Creation Stories in school, so that future scientists and laity alike will know what it is they're railing against.

How's that?




Ignorance is bliss, isn't it?

 

[AV1611VET]

Hey, if God wants to reveal the answers to me, I'll look to him to reveal them to me.

Do you believe that Joseph Smith got golden tablets from the angel Moroni?

There's a message here.

 

[AV1611VET]

I vote we teach all Creation Stories in school, so that future scientists and laity alike will know what it is they're railing against.

How's that?

That wouldn't help.

Then you guys would be here demanding we sort it all out for you.

And assuming you guys could even detach yourselves from your sacred Scientific Method long enough to listen to just one creation story, I would be surprised.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

There's a message here.

Considering there is literally zero evidence that John Smith got golden tablets from an angel, which is the same amount of evidence that points to God having a hand in the writing of the Bible... no, there isn't.

 

[AV1611VET]

And assuming you guys could even detach yourselves from your sacred Scientific Method long enough to listen to just one creation story, I would be surprised.

Considering there is literally zero evidence that John Smith got golden tablets from an angel, which is the same amount of evidence that points to God having a hand in the writing of the Bible... no, there isn't.

Thank you for another QED.

 

[Chris B]

I vote we teach the Bible in school, so that future scientists and laity alike will know what it is they're railing against.

How's that?

Fine. It's the teaching of a particular viewpoint and interpretation of the bible that's more problematic.
Would this rank as neutral to you, or biased:
"This document exists. It has a long history and sustained popularity. Some people consider it to be of divine origin, some people do not. What does it actually consist of, actually contain?"

Actually that wording would do for Muslim and Hindu writings, too...

Chris

 

[Chris B]

And assuming you guys could even detach yourselves from your sacred Scientific Method long enough to listen to just one creation story, I would be surprised.

Norse and Maori are my favourites.

Chris

 

[Chris B]

Ignorance is bliss, isn't it?

Only when the particular knowledge correcting the ignorance is both painful and of no compensating use or benefit.
"Thought would destroy their paradise."
There is a place for innocent happy ignorance. But it's not a general rule.

Chris.

 

[AV1611VET]

Actually that wording would do for Muslim and Hindu writings, too...

That minset leads to this mindset:

The majority of prophecy, not just Biblical prophecy, relies on vague language and phrases.

And do you guys apply that minset across the board?

Do you, for instance, teach Phlogiston theory alongside of Combustion theory?

And are you happy just to teach evolution and not instant creation?

 

[AV1611VET]

Norse and Maori are my favourites.

That's nice.

Do you happen to find most Bible prophecies vague?

And if so, do you accept responsibility for that?

Or is it the Bible's fault?

 

[AV1611VET]

Only when the particular knowledge correcting the ignorance is both painful and of no compensating use or benefit.

What would you think if I railed to have geography removed from school, then came on the Internet and blamed my inability to find France on a map on most maps being drawn vague?

 

[Bradly Capel]

Considering I've never seen you give any actual answers to questions, I'm not holding my breath.

Nor will you so please don't hold your breath.

 

[Bradly Capel]

What would you think if I railed to have geography removed from school, then came on the Internet and blamed my inability to find France on a map on most maps being drawn vague?

No one has removed any maps from schools yet half of Americans could not find France on a map of the world today,
35 percent of Americans can't find America on a map of the world.

 

[AV1611VET]

Nor will you so please don't hold your breath.

LOL

I have 40.5 times more posts than yours times Wardens ... and you say this?

 

[AV1611VET]

No one has removed any maps from schools yet half of Americans could not find France on a map of the world today,
35 percent of Americans can't find America on a map of the world.

Big deal.

100% of scientists can't find the route the Israelites took during the Exodus -- even when provided with their itenary in the book of Numbers.

 

[Bradly Capel]

Big deal.

100% of scientists can't find the route the Israelites took during the Exodus -- even when provided with their itenary in the book of Numbers.

That's because it didn't happen, ask the Jews.