Theistic Evolutionist...

[Loudmouth]

All that evidence was destroyed, but, we do have the dead sea scrolls, and we got to see how over a period of two-thousand years the story and the words never changed...

So far, you have only offered really vague prophecies that could have been fulfilled with almost anything. Do you have something better?

 

[Loudmouth]

Only a select few chosen can correctly interpret a vision or a dream prophesying the future ahead of time, only a select few chosen, we call them prophets or true man of God, we must seek them out, but it doesn't seem we have any in today's age...

But you are only retrofitting them after the fact. I could do that with any prophecy. I could prophesize that the golden fleece of the horned goat will rise over the mountain. Oh look!!!! It has been fulfilled by Putin!!!

To me the prophecies are to many in number and to highly detailed to not be from a supernatural source...

What detail?

 

[Neogaia777]

So far, you have only offered really vague prophecies that could have been fulfilled with almost anything. Do you have something better?

But you are only retrofitting them after the fact. I could do that with any prophecy. I could prophesize that the golden fleece of the horned goat will rise over the mountain. Oh look!!!! It has been fulfilled by Putin!!!



What detail?

Are you going to say that Pharoh's dream wasn't detailed and Daniels vision, and revelation isn't highly detailed?

 

[Loudmouth]

Are you going to say that Pharoh's dream wasn't detailed and Daniels vision, and revelation isn't highly detailed?

A dream of animals that are somehow supposed to represent Rome? That isn't detailed at all.

 

[Neogaia777]

You guys by your own disbelief are basically saying that Jesus and the things he did were all lies of the authors? How could they all be lying? To me to deny Christ and all the things he did, (the miracles, the teachings) you must think they are "made-up" then, and it's all one big conspiracy or something, highly illogical...

 

[Neogaia777]

A dream of animals that are somehow supposed to represent Rome? That isn't detailed at all.

Along with a specific animal that was to represent the behavior of that empire, along with horns to represent leaders, claws, iron represents Rome because Rome is like iron...

 

[Loudmouth]

You guys by your own disbelief are basically saying that Jesus and the things he did were all lies of the authors? How could they all be lying? To me to deny Christ and all the things he did, (the miracles, the teachings) you must think they are "made-up" then, and it's all one big conspiracy or something, highly illogical...

So you believe all ancient writings?

Do you think the events in the Iliad really happened? Was Mohammad lying? What about the authors of the Hindu Vedas? Were they lying?

 

[Loudmouth]

Along with a specific animal that was to represent the behavior of that empire, along with horns to represent leaders, claws, iron represents Rome because Rome is like iron...

I could make the same comparisons to almost any empire I wish. I could make that same comparison to the British Empire. After all, PM Thatcher was called the Iron Lady.

 

[Hammster]

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[AV1611VET]

All prophecy, not just Biblical prophecy, relies on vague language and phrases,

What's this then?

1 Kings 13:2 And he cried against the altar in the word of the LORD, and said, O altar, altar, thus saith the LORD; Behold, a child shall be born unto the house of David, Josiah by name; and upon thee shall he offer the priests of the high places that burn incense upon thee, and men's bones shall be burnt upon thee.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

What's this then?

1 Kings 13:2 And he cried against the altar in the word of the LORD, and said, O altar, altar, thus saith the LORD; Behold, a child shall be born unto the house of David, Josiah by name; and upon thee shall he offer the priests of the high places that burn incense upon thee, and men's bones shall be burnt upon thee.

Okay. This is the only 'prophecy' I've see that isn't vague, so I will alter my comment:
The majority of prophecy, not just Biblical prophecy, relies on vague language and phrases.

 

[AV1611VET]

Okay. This is the only 'prophecy' I've see that isn't vague, so I will alter my comment:
The majority of prophecy, not just Biblical prophecy, relies on vague language and phrases.

Vague to whom? you?

I'll tell you what, Warden.

Let's fix that, shall we?

I vote we teach the Bible in school, so that future scientists and laity alike will know what it is they're railing against.

How's that?

Or would you rather live the rest of your life behind the rest of us who actually made an effort to study this stuff?

I'm sorry, but I'm getting tired of hearing how ignorant you guys are.

You got what you wanted ... the Bible kicked out of school.

Now all you guys do is advertise your ignorance of even basic doctrine.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Vague to whom? you?

I'll tell you what, Warden.

Let's fix that, shall we?

I vote we teach the Bible in school, so that future scientists and laity alike will know what it is they're railing against.

How's that?

Or would you rather live the rest of your life behind the rest of us who actually made an effort to study this stuff?

I'm sorry, but I'm getting tired of hearing how ignorant you guys are.

You got what you wanted ... the Bible kicked out of school.

Now all you guys do is advertise your ignorance of even basic doctrine.

Yeah. No.

 

[AV1611VET]

Yeah. No.

Suit yourself.

Ignorance is bliss, isn't it?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Suit yourself.

Ignorance is bliss, isn't it?

Coming from you, that's rich.
I was taught about the Bible and Christianity in primary school and in high school, in religious education classes. The Bible IS taught in schools, in religious education classes, where it should be taught.

 

[ecco]

Some of the visions designed by God some are only meant to interpreted correctly until "after" the foretold event has actually happened, then and only then (usually, there are a few exceptions) are they meant to be understood correctly, that's why no one can accurately yet, interpret revelation correctly, because it has not come to pass yet, when it passes, or has taken place, then and only then can we look back at history and look at the prophecies of the Bible and see and say "Oh, yeah, this meant this, and that meant that...

That is pretty much what people say about the prophecies of Nostradamus.
That is pretty much what people say about the prophecies of Sylvia Brown.
That is pretty much what people say about the prophecies of Edgar Cayce.
That is pretty much what people say about the prophecies of Uri Geller.

 

[AV1611VET]

I was taught about the Bible and Christianity in primary school and in high school, in religious education classes.

'About the Bible'?

You were taught about the Bible; or you were taught the Bible?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

'About the Bible'?

You were taught about the Bible; or you were taught the Bible?

There's no difference.

 

[AV1611VET]

That is pretty much what people say about the prophecies of Nostradamus.
That is pretty much what people say about the prophecies of Sylvia Brown.
That is pretty much what people say about the prophecies of Edgar Cayce.
That is pretty much what people say about the prophecies of Uri Geller.

Diluting the Scriptures with false prophets?

 

[AV1611VET]

There's no difference.

Wow.

Okay, chief.

Carry on with your answers.

Good luck recognizing the [correct] answers when you see them.