• Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.

Superiority

JGG

Well-Known Member
Mar 12, 2006
12,018
2,098
✟65,945.00
Faith
Seeker
Marital Status
Private
Not at all, in fact, many religions do not teach that at all.

I wanted to say True Christian, but also wanted to echo your words. But you know what I mean right?

Probably not, but many people will face Jesus on that day and He will tell them to depart from Him because He never knew them.

Okay. But that is not particularly helpful for the rest of us.

No. People who say they are Christians but are not idwelt with the Holy Spirit will feel no conviction of their sin and never turn from it.

And would such people unconsciously believe themselves superior to others, even if they don't realize it and claim it's "of the devil?"

Are people who never turn from their sin not morally inferior to those who do?
 
Upvote 0

JGG

Well-Known Member
Mar 12, 2006
12,018
2,098
✟65,945.00
Faith
Seeker
Marital Status
Private
People have no right to destroy a civilization, but God can certainly do anything He wishes. He created everything and can destroy it if He wants.

But God didn't do it. God had the Israelites do it. And God had destroyed all civilization once before. Did the Israelites have a right to destroy a civilization?
 
Upvote 0

JustHisKid

Well-Known Member
Jun 12, 2015
1,318
249
✟2,859.00
Gender
Female
Faith
Christian
And would such people unconsciously believe themselves superior to others, even if they don't realize it and claim it's "of the devil?"

Are people who never turn from their sin not morally inferior to those who do?

My opinion is that many religious people believe themselves to be superior and realize it and do not care because they feel justified in their arrogance. They have not turned from their sin, I assure you. They are filled with pride and are not born again.

People who never repent are not necessarily less moral than those who have, they are just not forgiven for their sin. I'm not sure morality and sin are related.
 
Upvote 0

TheBarrd

Teller of tales, writer of poems, singer of songs
Mar 1, 2015
4,955
1,746
Following a Jewish Carpenter
✟14,094.00
Gender
Female
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
I think if one is honest, they will admit that there have been times when they have doubted their faith.
I know that I have had such times, myself.
In fact, I even wrote a piece about it:

My Plea
My Lord, I believe
Help Thou my unbelief
Let my soul no longer grieve
Thy grace is my relief
Calm the raging sea of doubt
Bid the winds of wrath be still
Cast the wicked spirit out
You can heal me, if You will
Help the seed within me grow
Into a mighty tree
Your tender loving care bestow
This, Lord, is my plea

I don't generally post this stuff anywhere but in my blog or in the writer's guild category...mainly in my blog.
You may not appreciate it, but for what it's worth, there it is...
 
Upvote 0

JustHisKid

Well-Known Member
Jun 12, 2015
1,318
249
✟2,859.00
Gender
Female
Faith
Christian
But God didn't do it. God had the Israelites do it. And God had destroyed all civilization once before. Did the Israelites have a right to destroy a civilization?

They had an obligation if God commanded them to do so, but we don't live in OT times.
 
Upvote 0

JGG

Well-Known Member
Mar 12, 2006
12,018
2,098
✟65,945.00
Faith
Seeker
Marital Status
Private
So if someone told you you can trust them you would believe what they say?

No, I'm sure I wouldn't.

As for how you would know If I was a true Christian firstly at the stage your in you would not recognize one if you saw it second I not a true Christian because of anything about me or what I have done or even who I am. I amonly what you might call a true Christian because God was very generous in showing and teaching me. He is constantly trying to show and teach believers what it really means to be his follower, I could have easily been another fake Christian one who is a Christian by title only the only reason I didn't become that is because he offered to teach me and I was willing to listen

Okay, but my True True Christian basically said the same thing. In fact, I think pretty much all Christians who have answered this question tell me that they are True Christians but with other justifications. Certainly the "you can't recognize because you're not one" gets used a fair bit.

Do you see the problem?
 
Upvote 0

TheBarrd

Teller of tales, writer of poems, singer of songs
Mar 1, 2015
4,955
1,746
Following a Jewish Carpenter
✟14,094.00
Gender
Female
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
This is true, but there must have been other children who were not roasted alive. How else would this race repopulate itself? What happened to them?



Okay. Genocide is acceptable when...?



What other acts would justify destroying a civilization?

Well, thank goodness, I'm not God, so I am not the one who has to make such a judgment call.
Sometimes, though, when I look around me and see all the violence, the racism, the hatred, etc, etc...ad nausea...I wonder.
If I were God, how long would I let this go on before I just said, "Okay, that's it. Show's over." And that would be the end of it.
He has a lot more patience than I have...
 
Upvote 0

TheBarrd

Teller of tales, writer of poems, singer of songs
Mar 1, 2015
4,955
1,746
Following a Jewish Carpenter
✟14,094.00
Gender
Female
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
I feel like that's sarcasm. Most people would be sick of me by now.
LOL...well, I have been accused of being pretty sarcastic myself.
I took it as a compliment.
I'm not sure it was meant as one, though...
 
Upvote 0

TheBarrd

Teller of tales, writer of poems, singer of songs
Mar 1, 2015
4,955
1,746
Following a Jewish Carpenter
✟14,094.00
Gender
Female
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
The thing is, there can't be any such thing as a "one size fits all" version of Christianity.
Jesus tends to meet people where they are, and work from there.
So, you'll find some folks much further along in their walk with Him, while others are lagging waaaaaayyyy behind.

Yes...some folks do come off as being arrogant, and yes, it is quite annoying.
OTOH, some folks come off as so humble and meek it almost makes you want to retch.
And then, too...even the very best of the best of the best of us can have an "off day"....
 
Upvote 0

FireHeart

Simply his Child
May 22, 2015
280
144
34
Oklahoma
✟24,611.00
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
No, I'm sure I wouldn't.



Okay, but my True True Christian basically said the same thing. In fact, I think pretty much all Christians who have answered this question tell me that they are True Christians but with other justifications. Certainly the "you can't recognize because you're not one" gets used a fair bit.

Do you see the problem?
No, I'm sure I wouldn't.



Okay, but my True True Christian basically said the same thing. In fact, I think pretty much all Christians who have answered this question tell me that they are True Christians but with other justifications. Certainly the "you can't recognize because you're not one" gets used a fair bit.

Do you see the problem?
If you can tell me what it means to truly be a Christian then I will know you really are one however you cannot seem to be able to give me an answer to that so I ask something else. As a Christian what does it mean to be strong? What is true strength?
 
Upvote 0

JGG

Well-Known Member
Mar 12, 2006
12,018
2,098
✟65,945.00
Faith
Seeker
Marital Status
Private
Well, thank goodness, I'm not God, so I am not the one who has to make such a judgment call.
Sometimes, though, when I look around me and see all the violence, the racism, the hatred, etc, etc...ad nausea...I wonder.
If I were God, how long would I let this go on before I just said, "Okay, that's it. Show's over." And that would be the end of it.
He has a lot more patience than I have...

Okay, but when He does, who would do the exterminating for Him?

If I am to accept that God tells people to kill populations of people for reasons of His own, then how can I say that Isis is wrong if they believe God has commanded them to kill populations of people for reasons of His own? But I have to say it's wrong for Isis to do it, so I have to accept that it was wrong for the Israelites to do it no matter why.

Do you see my dilemma? Do you see why I can't say the Bible is better than the Koran?
 
Upvote 0

JGG

Well-Known Member
Mar 12, 2006
12,018
2,098
✟65,945.00
Faith
Seeker
Marital Status
Private
If you can tell me what it means to truly be a Christian then I will know you really are one however you cannot seem to be able to give me an answer to that so I ask something else. As a Christian what does it mean to be strong? What is true strength?

As I said, I cannot tell you. But any Christian can tell me what they think it means to be truly Christian. However, does that mean that they're right? Does it mean you're right when you tell me?
 
Upvote 0

FireHeart

Simply his Child
May 22, 2015
280
144
34
Oklahoma
✟24,611.00
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
As I said, I cannot tell you. But any Christian can tell me what they think it means to be truly Christian. However, does that mean that they're right? Does it mean you're right when you tell me?
If you really want to know you must go to God
 
Upvote 0