Superiority

[FireHeart]

See that's a very different description of what a Christian is from what the True Christian said. And I know that he's a True Christian, because he told me so.

Who is this ( true Christian) you speak of? if it's not Jesus then how can believe he is a true Christian merely because he said so? And yes it is a very different description because the church has forgotten what it means to be one

 

[TheBarrd]

But it does give examples of God's people killing off populations of non-believers, and gives instructions on how to beat a slave. Just as an example.

But, I'm not talking about the extremes, they scare me too. I'm talking about the average Christian, and average Muslim.

I did not finish the Koran, and I believe I had much too flowery a translation for what I did read.

I think you are referring to the Old Testament.
Consider, for example, the followers of the god, Molech. There was a ritual where all the women of a certain age were to run as fast as they could into the wilderness. A few minutes later, all the men of that age would be set after them. A man was allowed to rape any woman he could catch. Now, I imagine some of those gals were kinda slow, if you know what I mean...but it was still a rather brutal idea.
Anyway, nine months later, there would be a crop of babies from these matings.
What do you think happened to those kids?

 

[JGG]

Who is this ( true Christian) you speak of?

Another poster. The one who shared the parable of the two cabins.

if it's not Jesus then how can believe he is a true Christian merely because he said so?

How do I know you're a True Christian?

And yes it is a very different description because the church has forgotten what it means to be one

But you have remembered?

 

[JGG]

I think you are referring to the Old Testament.
Consider, for example, the followers of the god, Molech. There was a ritual where all the women of a certain age were to run as fast as they could into the wilderness. A few minutes later, all the men of that age would be set after them. A man was allowed to rape any woman he could catch. Now, I imagine some of those gals were kinda slow, if you know what I mean...but it was still a rather brutal idea.
Anyway, nine months later, there would be a crop of babies from these matings.
What do you think happened to those kids?

They would be slaughtered. Sacrificed to Molech if I recall.

 

[TheBarrd]

On the other hand, consider this from Jesus:
John 13:34-35King James Version (KJV)
34 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.
35 By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

 

[TheBarrd]

They would be slaughtered. Sacrificed to Molech if I recall.

Yes...put alive into a fire.

Should God have let those baby killing monsters live?

It's not like He hadn't given them a chance to mend their ways. They'd been doing it for a pretty good while before the Israelites showed up.

 

[JustHisKid]

Apparently Christians are. Thanks for sharing.

Still looking for those who believe that Christians are more moral than others. They've posted a dozen or so threads in the past several months, where are they now?

If any Christians actually believe they are superior to others, they will never admit it out loud.

 

[JGG]

Yes...put alive into a fire.

Should God have let those baby killing monsters live?

It's not like He hadn't given them a chance to mend their ways. They'd been doing it for a pretty good while before the Israelites showed up.

But when the Israelites showed up did they save these children? Just to clarify, you're saying that genocide is ethical when...?

 

[JGG]

If any Christians actually believe they are superior to others, they will never admit it out loud.

This is oh so true. But, would they even recognize that they believe themselves superior?

 

[TheBarrd]

You know, JGG, you have a delightfully witty sarcasm. I'm enjoying it very much.

 

[JustHisKid]

This is oh so true. But, would they even recognize that they believe themselves superior?

Yes, if they are truly born again, they would recognize that even thinking such a thing is of the devil.

 

[TheBarrd]

But when the Israelites showed up did they save these children? Just to clarify, you're saying that genocide is ethical when...?

Well, it's a bit difficult to save a child who has already been roasted alive.
And I'm not saying genocide is ethical.
But I think that stopping a culture that is practicing such cruelty is something God has a right to do.

 

[FireHeart]

Another poster.



How do I know you're a True Christian?



But you have remembered?

So if someone told you you can trust them you would believe what they say?

As for how you would know If I was a true Christian firstly at the stage your in you would not recognize one if you saw it second I not a true Christian because of anything about me or what I have done or even who I am. I amonly what you might call a true Christian because God was very generous in showing and teaching me. He is constantly trying to show and teach believers what it really means to be his follower, I could have easily been another fake Christian one who is a Christian by title only the only reason I didn't become that is because he offered to teach me and I was willing to listen

 

[JGG]

Yes, if they are truly born again, they would recognize that even thinking such a thing is of the devil.

Well that is an interesting conundrum, isn't it? Is it fair to say that all Christians believe themselves truly born again? Are there any who think "I'm not a True Christian?"

So, just because someone recognizes that thinking such is wrong, does that mean that they don't still think it?

 

[BabylonWeary]

To consider what is superior... in terms of morality, some have a strict way and others are more relaxed, and it's difficult to judge because only God really knows all the variables. If it's Christianity compared to Islam, then it's going to come down to whichever wins a Crusade will impose their version of history, but that's hardly a true definition of morality.

 

[JustHisKid]

Well that is an interesting conundrum, isn't it? Is it fair to say that all Christians believe themselves truly born again?

Not at all, in fact, many religions do not teach that at all.

Are there any who think "I'm not a True Christian?"

Probably not, but many people will face Jesus on that day and He will tell them to depart from Him because He never knew them.

So, just because someone recognizes that thinking such is wrong, does that mean that they don't still think it?

No. People who say they are Christians but are not idwelt with the Holy Spirit will feel no conviction of their sin and never turn from it.

 

[JGG]

Well, it's a bit difficult to save a child who has already been roasted alive.

This is true, but there must have been other children who were not roasted alive. How else would this race repopulate itself? What happened to them?

And I'm not saying genocide is ethical.

Okay. Genocide is acceptable when...?

But I think that stopping a culture that is practicing such cruelty is something God has a right to do.

What other acts would justify destroying a civilization?

 

[JGG]

To consider what is superior... in terms of morality, some have a strict way and others are more relaxed, and it's difficult to judge because only God really knows all the variables. If it's Christianity compared to Islam, then it's going to come down to whichever wins a Crusade will impose their version of history, but that's hardly a true definition of morality.

That smells a bit like moral relativism...

 

[JGG]

You know, JGG, you have a delightfully witty sarcasm. I'm enjoying it very much.

I feel like that's sarcasm. Most people would be sick of me by now.

 

[JustHisKid]

This is true, but there must have been other children who were not roasted alive. How else would this race repopulate itself? What happened to them?



Okay. Genocide is acceptable when...?



What other acts would justify destroying a civilization?

People have no right to destroy a civilization, but God can certainly do anything He wishes. He created everything and can destroy it if He wants.