Common Core promoting Islam!!!!

[Bedford]

Excellent quote, which brings the following quote to mind.

If you tell a lie big enough, and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension,the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.
Joseph Goebbels (1897-1945)
NAZI Propaganda Minister
​

Godwin's Law

 

[elliott95]

Excellent quote, which brings the following quote to mind.

If you tell a lie big enough, and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension,the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.
Joseph Goebbels (1897-1945)
NAZI Propaganda Minister
​

Thanks for the quote.

It does explain a lot about the methods that people resort to, even here in this thread, against Sistrin in this instance.

 

[Bedford]

Thanks for the quote.

It does explain a lot about the methods that people resort to, even here in this thread, against Sistrin in this instance.

The whole problem is common core is not promoting Islam.

The methods used are facts. Sorry, but some don't buy the victim card Sistrin advances in this thread.

 

[ChristsSoldier115]

Maybe parents should be parents and pay attention to what their kids are learning and explain to them about certain things being taught? I guess that is asking too much, for parents to teach their children?

 

[TLK Valentine]

Maybe parents should be parents and pay attention to what their kids are learning and explain to them about certain things being taught? I guess that is asking too much, for parents to teach their children?

Amen to that. Folks on this thread, after being shown ad nauseam that Common Core is not promoting Islam, have shifted their outrage to the idea of teaching about Islam in general.

Why?

• Are they afraid that if someone teaches their kids what Islam is, they might convert?
• Are they afraid that the schools may not teach the required amount of hate that they demand when discussing Islam?
• Are they afriad that a teacher who sees their kids for 40 minutes a day, five days a week, 180 days a year, might have more influence over their kids' spiritual growth than parents who have them the rest of their lives?

Seems like the panic is based on poor parenting.

 

[Sistrin]

Amen to that. Folks on this thread, after being shown ad nauseam that Common Core is not promoting Islam, have shifted their outrage to the idea of teaching about Islam in general.

Have you even read this thread?

 

[TLK Valentine]

The incident listed in the OP isn't the only one to have been reported on:

Second Parent: My child got Nation of Islam paper, too

A second parent has now come forward acknowledging their child received a Nation of Islam “handout” in a third grade class at Harold McCormick Elementary School in Elizabethton, Tennessee – contradicting claims by the school district that the document was not distributed in the classroom.

Source: Second Parent: My child got Nation of Islam paper, too | Fox News

Considering that the "handout" in question is actually a printout from a web page, it's obvious that this parent is the worst kind of fraud -- a lazy one.

PROTIP: No school -- least of all a public school -- is going to shell out the kind of exorbitant expense to use a color copier for student handouts.

 

[Metal Minister]

Considering that the "handout" in question is actually a printout from a web page, it's obvious that this parent is the worst kind of fraud -- a lazy one.

PROTIP: No school -- least of all a public school -- is going to shell out the kind of exorbitant expense to use a color copier for student handouts.

Yeah, no. My son's school does use color on some of their printouts. Is it possible the one mentioned is fake? Meh, it's possible, but simply the fact that it's in color means nothing.

 

[Metal Minister]

Godwin's Law

Nope:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

That's not a comparison, it's a quote.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Have you even read this thread?

Yes, I have -- and I've seen the lengths that the ignorant and paranoid will go to in order to remain ignorant and paranoid.

(Not that I'm naming names, of course -- the ignorant and paranoid know I'm talking about them; they'd know it even if I wasn't )

 

[Bedford]

Nope:
Godwin's law - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

That's not a comparison, it's a quote.

Your defense makes me laugh.

A quote from a Nazi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Godwin's Law

 

[TLK Valentine]

Yeah, no. My son's school does use color on some of their printouts. Is it possible the one mentioned is fake? Meh, it's possible, but simply the fact that it's in color means nothing.

Color for class assignments? I think not -- Color toner is expensive, and no school buys enough in bulk to give the teachers free reign over it.

Furthermore, it's blisteringly obvious that the "handout" in question is nothing but a page printed off a web site -- where's the assignment? If this is a student worksheet, where's the work?

We know this is the only page -- the "Page 1 of 1" at the top is the giveaway, which also reveals that this page in question was printed directly off the web; not from any kind of word processor; so nothing was added to it.

If this is a class worksheet as we are supposed to believe, where's the work?

And why is this the only parent whose child allegedly got it? Where is the class-wide outrage? And why is said outrage being directed at Common Core and the School Board, and not the teacher?

Sorry, MM -- 15 years in the profession; I know a fraud when I smell one.

 

[Sistrin]

Considering that the "handout" in question is actually a printout from a web page, it's obvious that this parent is the worst kind of fraud -- a lazy one.

That is your logic? The handout image was taken from the Nation of Islam web page therefore the parent is a fraud?

Here is the webpage in question:

What Does it Take to Be on MOUNT RUSHMORE? |

PROTIP: No school -- least of all a public school -- is going to shell out the kind of exorbitant expense to use a color copier for student handouts.

What makes you a pro, exactly? Because you work in one school in one school district does not make you an expert on every school in every school district, nor even close to an expert on public education. My sons elementary school has a color copier available for the teachers to use. In addition you are not the only person here experienced with the public school system.

 

[Metal Minister]

Your defense makes me laugh.

A quote from a Nazi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Godwin's Law

Doesn't matter. If I quote Tupac, am I making a comparison to rappers? No, I'm using a quote. If I quote President Obama, am I making a comparison to Presidents of the United States? No, I'm quoting President Obama. Now, if I say President Obama is just like Hitler, then there is a comparison being made, and you would be correct, simply quoting a relevant excerpt does not mean someone is making a comparison. Now, let's stop derailing the thread and move on.

 

[Metal Minister]

Color for class assignments? I think not -- Color toner is expensive, and no school buys enough in bulk to give the teachers free reign over it.

Furthermore, it's blisteringly obvious that the "handout" in question is nothing but a page printed off a web site -- where's the assignment? If this is a student worksheet, where's the work?

We know this is the only page -- the "Page 1 of 1" at the top is the giveaway, which also reveals that this page in question was printed directly off the web; not from any kind of word processor; so nothing was added to it.

If this is a class worksheet as we are supposed to believe, where's the work?

And why is this the only parent whose child allegedly got it? Where is the class-wide outrage? And why is said outrage being directed at Common Core and the School Board, and not the teacher?

Sorry, MM -- 15 years in the profession; I know a fraud when I smell one.

Interesting. You've been to my son's school have you? You've seen all of his homework? I didn't think so.

 

[TLK Valentine]

That is your logic? The handout image was taken from the Nation of Islam web page therefore the parent is a fraud?

When the image was printed out by the parents themselves, then yes, they are indeed frauds.

What makes you a pro, exactly? Because you work in one school in one school district does not make you an expert on every school in every school district, nor even close to an expert on public education.

Actually, I've worked in several schools in several districts -- how many have you worked at?

My sons elementary school has a color copier available for the teachers to use. In addition you are not the only person here experienced with the public school system.

If you're referring to yourself (and I'll bet my blessings you're not) care to compare credentials?

 

[TLK Valentine]

Interesting. You've been to my son's school have you? You've seen all of his homework? I didn't think so.

Again, if this "handout" was a homework assignment, where exactly is the work to be done?

 

[CaDan]

One off. Whiteness.

/debate humor

 

[Bedford]

Doesn't matter. If I quote Tupac, am I making a comparison to rappers? No, I'm using a quote. If I quote President Obama, am I making a comparison to Presidents of the United States? No, I'm quoting President Obama. Now, if I say President Obama is just like Hitler, then there is a comparison being made, and you would be correct, simply quoting a relevant excerpt does not mean someone is making a comparison. Now, let's stop derailing the thread and move on.

Quoting Nazis!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If you want to stop derailing the thread, then just stop derailing.

 

[Sistrin]

When the image was printed out by the parents themselves, then yes, they are indeed frauds.

You have no way of knowing this, and no means to prove it.

If you're referring to yourself (and I'll bet my blessings you're not)...

And you would lose. My experience with the public school system has shown me the side of the institution public school teachers and administrators don't want anyone to see. You want to discuss it start a thread in Ethics and Morality, which is where the debate would belong.

Again, if this "handout" was a homework assignment, where exactly is the work to be done?

The articles sourced clearly spelled out the teacher specified the handouts were not to be taken home, thus not homework. If you actually had read any of this, you would have known that.

One off. Whiteness.

/debate humor

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