Important Facts about Evolution

[toolmanjantzi]

I challenge you to find a non apologist source for your claimed Y chromosome problem. Lying involves purposely deceiving. For all I know he believes the stuff he says to be true, doesn't make him a list if he is wrong. But I feel that if this problem really exists there should be non apologists commenting on it as an important issue.

Sorry I edited my last post.

 

[toolmanjantzi]

I challenge you to find a non apologist source for your claimed Y chromosome problem. Lying involves purposely deceiving. For all I know he believes the stuff he says to be true, doesn't make him a list if he is wrong. But I feel that if this problem really exists there should be non apologists commenting on it as an important issue.

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v463/n7280/full/nature08700.html The journal he got his information from was not written by apologists. You can pay the website to see the rest of the findings.

 

[PsychoSarah]

Sorry I edited my last post.

If you read that source you gave, you would notice that it never states the difference as being near as significant as the apologist, nor does it state that this is a problem for evolution. Depending on selective pressures, evolution can be relatively fast or slow, it isn't restricted to one speed.

 

[toolmanjantzi]

If you read that source you gave, you would notice that it never states the difference as being near as significant as the apologist, nor does it state that this is a problem for evolution. Depending on selective pressures, evolution can be relatively fast or slow, it isn't restricted to one speed.

Why would a Biologist do that in a Science Journal. You did read that last part where excuses, I mean reasons for error are written. I understand your issue with the information of an apologist over that of an biologist; but maybe this will reassure you. http://youtu.be/xt79TLiX6DM

 

[bhsmte]

Why would a Biologist do that in a Science Journal. You did read that last part where excuses, I mean reasons for error are written. I understand your issue with the information of an apologist over that of an biologist; but maybe this will reassure you. Failures of Evolution: Banana Moth is "Best Example of Evolution"? - YouTube

Does Richie impress you?

 

[PsychoSarah]

Why would a Biologist do that in a Science Journal. You did read that last part where excuses, I mean reasons for error are written. I understand your issue with the information of an apologist over that of an biologist; but maybe this will reassure you. Failures of Evolution: Banana Moth is "Best Example of Evolution"? - YouTube

Look man, if you understood biology, you would realize how insignificant these differences on the Y chromosome were.

 

[toolmanjantzi]

Look man, if you understood biology, you would realize how insignificant these differences on the Y chromosome were.

Well for me being a man, I sure hope the Y chromosome has some significance.


'You have probably heard before that the Y chromosome is small, insignificant and contains very little genetic information. This is not true."

That's funny because I did hear it.

"It is generally well known that men have an overall shorter life expectancy compared to women. A recent study, led by Uppsala University researchers, shows a correlation between a loss of the Y chromosome in blood cells and both a shorter life span and higher mortality from cancer in other organs."

- See more at: http://www.uu.se/en/media/news/arti...&typ=artikel&na=&lang=en#sthash.O8rvHmIC.dpuf But I guess it wouldn't matter for a women would it?

 

[Armoured]

Well for me being a man, I sure hope the Y chromosome has some significance.


'You have probably heard before that the Y chromosome is small, insignificant and contains very little genetic information. This is not true."

That's funny because I did hear it.

"It is generally well known that men have an overall shorter life expectancy compared to women. A recent study, led by Uppsala University researchers, shows a correlation between a loss of the Y chromosome in blood cells and both a shorter life span and higher mortality from cancer in other organs."

- See more at: Loss of Y chromosome can explain higher cancer risk and shorter life expectancy for men - Uppsala University, Sweden But I guess it wouldn't matter for a women would it?

Um... blood cells don't have any chromosomes. At all. So I suspect there may be a translation error somewhere...

 

[toolmanjantzi]

Um... blood cells don't have any chromosomes. At all. So I suspect there may be a translation error somewhere...

White Blood Cells do.

 

[loveiseverywhere]

AV, that's not hard to do, as your faith is indefensible.

Are you here to make reasonable people of faith look silly?

No, HitchSlap, he is here to drive people crazy and make claims that he cannot support. In the end, all he does is waste other people's time. I'm not sure why people even take the time to acknowledge his posts. It seems like ignoring him would probably be the best way to deal with him.

I haven't posted here in 2 years and I'm really baffled to see that he's still here and that people still arguing with him, trying to make him wake up and see the light, because it's never going to happen, no matter how rational of a statement one makes.

 

[justlookinla]

No, HitchSlap, he is here to drive people crazy and make claims that he cannot support. In the end, all he does is waste other people's time. I'm not sure why people even take the time to acknowledge his posts. It seems like ignoring him would probably be the best way to deal with him.

I haven't posted here in 2 years and I'm really baffled to see that he's still here and that people still arguing with him, trying to make him wake up and see the light, because it's never going to happen, no matter how rational of a statement one makes.

What is "the light" you, and others, are trying to make him see?

 

[bhsmte]

No, HitchSlap, he is here to drive people crazy and make claims that he cannot support. In the end, all he does is waste other people's time. I'm not sure why people even take the time to acknowledge his posts. It seems like ignoring him would probably be the best way to deal with him.

I haven't posted here in 2 years and I'm really baffled to see that he's still here and that people still arguing with him, trying to make him wake up and see the light, because it's never going to happen, no matter how rational of a statement one makes.

I can't disagree with you.

On the other hand, sometimes it is the pure entertainment value that keeps people engaging with him and at times, he does provide some entertainment.

 

[PsychoSarah]

White Blood Cells do.

If that distinction isn't made in the source...

BTW, only red blood cells have genetic material which they later lose in their lifespan, and that happens in both genders all throughout our lives.

 

[Strathos]

That's good then. We should all believe in God then?

Ideally, yes. Scientific knowledge doesn't conflict with God.

 

[bhsmte]

Ideally, yes. Scientific knowledge doesn't conflict with God.

For some it does, just depends what the faith beliefs are.

Also, what would be the benefit of everyone believing in God?

 

[PsychoSarah]

For some it does, just depends what the faith beliefs are.

Also, what would be the benefit of everyone believing in God?

None, because there is no way everyone would believe in the same god or interpret beliefs in the same way.

 

[Strathos]

For some it does, just depends what the faith beliefs are.

Also, what would be the benefit of everyone believing in God?

From a Christian perspective, going to Heaven.

 

[PsychoSarah]

From a Christian perspective, going to Heaven.

Depends on what denominations. The best case would be that our beliefs don't matter with the afterlife but our actions do, with being a bad person punished to scale with the crimes.

 

[bhsmte]

From a Christian perspective, going to Heaven.

Going to heaven as opposed to hell correct?

Ok, I can buy that, as if one truly believes the story, that is a clear benefit.

Another question, how many people do you think say they are Christian, just because they are fearful they will go to hell if they aren't, but they really have serious doubts about the whole story?

 

[toolmanjantzi]

Ideally, yes. Scientific knowledge doesn't conflict with God.

Truthfully it shouldn't since science was the studying of theology.