The Problem of Evil

[bhsmte]

If im honest i dont have a clue what my god does i just fancied sounding philosophical and reading the replies

Ok, honest answer and I would agree, I don't see how anyone can say with any confidence, what a God does or doesn't do, if one exists, unless they are just making it up to fit a certain belief they have.

 

[andy b]

And who claims that? Strawman much?

OH, yes! Christians! -- "in the beginning the deity magicked life, the universe, and everything and it all just appeared from nothing".

Yeah, OK, I get your drift now....

what do Buddhists believe now you have my drift ,

 

[andy b]

Ok, honest answer and I would agree, I don't see how anyone can say with any confidence, what a God does or doesn't do, if one exists, unless they are just making it up to fit a certain belief they have.

hes indifferent ill give him that

 

[Skybringr]

what do Buddhists believe now you have my drift ,

Conveniently, when an atheist sees that atheism is boring and fails to answer the hard questions, they'll turn to something such as Buddhism which supposes spirituality with no governing Deity.

In other words, Buddhists and deists are definitively anti-Christian. They have acknowledged a premise of spirituality and yet completely reject the true God. A technique of deception, if you ask me.

 

[Jeremy E Walker]

What does that have to do with the fact that your god is seemingly unloving?

If you claim a person is immoral for not alleviating the suffering of people when they could, and you do not alleviate the suffering of people when you could, you are immoral by your own standard.

That is my point.

 

[Huntun]

Yeah Buddha even invented Buddhism just to rebel against the Christian God. He used his psychic powers to view the future and saw that people would end up following a religion called Christianity that would be invented about 400 or some odd years later and was like "heck no I'm going to nip this in the bud right now!"

 

[andy b]

Conveniently, when an atheist sees that atheism is boring and fails to answer the hard questions, they'll turn to something such as Buddhism which supposes spirituality with no governing Deity.

In other words, Buddhists and deists are definitively anti-Christian. They have acknowledged a premise of spirituality and yet completely reject the true God. A technique of deception, if you ask me.

me mams got a china budda on the fireplace......just thought id throw that in

 

[Chany]

If you claim a person is immoral for not alleviating the suffering of people when they could, and you do not alleviate the suffering of people when you could, you are immoral by your own standard.

That is my point.

So?

Ad hominem.

Also, you don't know what any of us do, or plan to do. So, your point is moot.

Likewise, the level of effort, time, resources, and personal strain involved are entirely different. It is incredibly hard, almost to the point of impossibility, to be an altruistic, giving saint for the masses. It is entirely different to will for something, which is all your god has to do.

 

[ToddNotTodd]

If you claim a person is immoral for not alleviating the suffering of people when they could, and you do not alleviate the suffering of people when you could, you are immoral by your own standard.

That is my point.

I could argue your point, but I don't need to. Let's say for arguments sake that you're right and I'm immoral.

Now are you going to address my actual argument, or are you going to concede that what I've said is correct and your god is unloving? Because ignoring the entirety of my argument seems pretty telling to me...

 

[andy b]

Believe about what?

What are you alluding to -- what do you think "Buddhists believe"?

i dont know thats why im asking sherlock

 

[Skybringr]

What "spirituality"? I don't think you have any idea what you are going on about.

Atheists like yourself who call themselves Buddhists are not really Buddhists. Or Deism, or anything.

You all are a dime a dozen. You are far from the first and far from the last of those types I will encounter in my lifetime.

The very fact that you are so absurdly ridiculous to talk to, have no depth or respect whatsoever, just shows how laughable it is to see one prescribe their self Buddhism.

The fact of the matter is that you have merely attempted to put yourself in an outrageously convenient location and standing, and it's a facade that I can see right through.

 

[andy b]

What is this "sherlock" business? Does it have anything to do with the seeming inability you display to capitalize and use punctuation?

If your vague question is inquiring as to Buddhism vis-a-vis creation myths, the answer is that Buddhism is not in need of creation myths. And if that is the tack you are attempting to take, you are simply throwing out a red herring as a dodge and derailment to avoid addressing the topic.

Forget it Sherlock ( work it out seeing as your so smart ) your boring me to death

 

[ToddNotTodd]

God chose to create beings with the ability to choose to obey Him or disobey Him. There are many things God cannot do. Omnipotence =/= ability to do anything.

God could have created a universe populated with beings that could disobey him but do not disobey him. Solves the problem of suffering (well, the suffering we cause each other) rather nicely.

But since that's not the way the universe is, we have to assume your god desires the suffering we cause each other.

 

[ToddNotTodd]

I'm just revealing your antagonistic, atheist grandstanding for what it is.

And then later...

You all are a dime a dozen. You are far from the first and far from the last of those types I will encounter in my lifetime.

The very fact that you are so absurdly ridiculous to talk to, have no depth or respect whatsoever, just shows how laughable it is to see one prescribe their self Buddhism.

Pot. Kettle. Black...

 

[Skybringr]

Forget it Sherlock ( work it out seeing as your so smart ) your boring me to death

He doesn't want to slip up and say something wrong

I've met two Buddhists in my lifetime, and they are both very intellectually deep people. If we were having a discussion with a real Buddhist, it would be nothing like what Mockingbird has been perpetuating: typical anti-theist with a chip on his shoulder.

 

[andy b]

He doesn't want to slip up and say something wrong

I've met two Buddhists in my lifetime, and they are both very intellectually deep people. If we were having a discussion with a real Buddhist, it would be nothing like what Mockingbird has been perpetuating: typical anti-theist with a chip on his shoulder.

Ive never met one so i was interested in his views,but i wasn't expecting my punctuation to be brought up,If Sherlock proof reads my letter ill send one to the Dali lama asking him how he thinks life started because it looks like Sherlock wont give me an answer

 

[Loudmouth]

God is immoral because He gave mankind the capacity to choose and act between good and evil?

God is evil because, according to christians, he refuses to cure people of cancer because they refuse to stroke his ego. I was flatly told that people are not cured of cancer because they refuse to worship God.

Reaping what one sows is the centrifugal force of what you call 'punishment'.

Really? I didn't eat of the Tree of Good and Evil, and yet I am paying for it, supposedly.

Is it moral to throw a child into jail because of something her great-grandfather did? Absolutely not. So why is it moral for God to do the same?

God calls homosexuality an abomination, and the majority of HIV is indeed manifested among homosexuals.

The least fewest number of HIV infections found amongst lesbians. Their rate of HIV infection is lower than heterosexuals. Does this mean that God approves of lesbian sex more than he does heterosexual sex?

Did God cause it, or are eople just reaping what they sow?

Could God stop all HIV infections with a wag of his finger? According to christians, he could. God is omnipotent. So why not do it?

If your father teaches you that something is wrong, and you go and do it anyway, it is by your hand what you reap.

Does a father give his 6 month old son cancer in order to punish him for something his great grandfather did? If not, it isn't comparable.

 

[andy b]

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Nice to see you start a sentence with a capital letter. Try working on commas and periods next.

Nice philosophy Sherlock.eerrrrrrrrrrrr i dont know the answer so ill pull him on his capitals hahahaha whats funny though is i know im thick but you think your clever .your deluded Sherlock hahahah

 

[andy b]

My dear Lestrade, what part of "Buddhism is not in need of creation myths" did you fail to grasp?


HipTip: The Tibetan religions are basically Bon and animism with a veneer of BUddhist teachings. About as far as you could get away from what the Buddha actually taught and still call oneself "Buddhist".


But again: This thread isn't about Buddhism, didn't you know?

hahahaha sherlock has just googled sherlock ...why not google Buddhism and give me an answer

 

[andy b]

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You haven't read the rules of this forum, have you.

hey sherlock me mams got a buddha on the fireplace will it bring her luck .i guess not she had me hahhahah