Why Is Mr Obama In The President's Office?

[Yarddog]

I was not suggesting the process that was done in electing Obama was abnormal. Am suggesting he lied A LOT to those who voted for him with the intent of having those lies convince them to give them his support.

And? What do you think McCain and Romney were doing. You can tell when a politician is lying when you see their mouths moving.

 

[Lollerskates]

Have you ever noticed that after every. single. election. there's a bunch of sore losers claiming that their side didn't really lose, the process was unfair, or the other side cheated, or if things had been different then more people would have voted for them? To everyone who does this, yeah, we get it, you're unhappy your prefered candidate lost. So why not do something constructive and try to help your next prefered candidate win, rather than do nothing until he loses, then complain?

P.S. Blacks are a minority. Even if every single one of them voted for him, that wouldn't be enough to elect him.

Lol... Le Sigh...

Indeed. If 90% of the entire "black" population (est. 32.1 M peopke) voted for Obama, it wouldn't be equal to even 15% of the white population (est. 32.4 M people.) And, that is assuming the entire populations are withing voting age, and that all members vote (which we hear from ignorant persons, black people rarely vote anyway.) So, I don't see why all of a sudden minorities have an overwhelming influence in US future so much so that they single-handedly got "their" president in office - especially since the numbers suggest the polar opposite. People cant put Obama's election wins on Black, Latino, or any other minorities.

I don't like Obama or his administration, but I have always said that people don't even give him a chance to vindicate their conspiracy theories about who he is and what he is going to do. Before he kisses a baby the cliche presidential photo-op, he is already a dirty Muslim that is going to plant nooks in the baby's diaper. I love conspiracy theories for entertainment, and believe a bloody good number of them. But, seriously, at least give Obama a chance to prove he is the "Antichrist, for example."

 

[Hetta]

Actually he's in the White House because the majority of Blacks voted for him because he's Black. They wouldn't have cared if he ran on a "Let's imprison all the White folks" platform. He's Black and he's their president. It makes them feel good because a Black man holds the highest office in the land.

So effectively you're saying that black people are less intelligent than white people, and that at heart they don't care if all white people are imprisoned?

And then they say that the cries of racism are unfounded.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Originally Posted by christlover49

I SAID THE FAIR CHOCOLATE SKINNED FELLOWS OF AMERICA DID IT
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This guy is a total troll just fyi.

I think I'll just put "christlover" (such a lie) on ignore until he's banned, as he will be, quite soon.

He is a rather "colorful" character.........



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[miamited]

Hi all,

Well, glad to see that the fires are beginning to subside. For me, it doesn't matter whether you like the man or not, although to me he seems to be a perfectly likable person. It doesn't matter that you agree with his policies or not, although I believe that a lot of people lay the blame of responsibility at his door when it isn't his. The example given before of abortion is a valid case in point. The fact that abortion is included in the health care act is not his doing. It was included in there after much debate by the bodies of the legislature. President Obama never came out and said, "I won't approve a bill that doesn't include abortion coverage." President Obama never stumped for abortion coverage to be included in the bill. But abortions, like it or not, are legal in this country and are medical procedures. However, this laying the guilt of abortion in the healthcare bill is absolutely none of President Obama's doing. But again, that doesn't really matter.

God has written to His children through the Holy Spirit that we are to respect those in authority over us. That's it. I again recall for you that Daniel lived in a land with a despot ruler who for his own personal aggrandizement commanded that all the people should bow to his image, but never once, in Daniel's refusal to abide by that law do we find that he groused or vilified or made disparaging remarks towards the king even though every born again believer would agree that what the king was asking was absolutely against God's commands to His children. No!! Daniel, with all the respect that was due the position and the authority of the king spoke to him as the honored and respected king in always addressing him as "Oh great king live forever." And then he personally accepted the responsibility and position that he could not do what the king asked of him.

He didn't cry that it was unfair and unlawful before God and that everyone should rise up and denigrate the king. He just set himself before the king and with all the respect due him simply said, "I cannot do that." He took the punishment that was meted out to him for his refusal. Still not calling on all the Jews to rise up against the king and demand he follow and enforce God's laws, but took his punishment and trusted that his God would do what was right.

I believe that his is the very best example of how the born again believer today should act in the face of being asked to do what is against our godly moral beliefs. We, today on the other hand, decide to fight as if we're going to force our will on unbelievers. We're going to make this nation godly if it kills us.

On the issue of abortion, that is a personal choice. I agree that God does not want His children to have abortions. But we think that because God declares something immoral that we then are responsible for turning the whole nation against it. This is not the way Daniel handled the exact same situation. If you are a born again believer then you should not have an abortion. You should not be a part of legal prostitution. You should not be a party to any form of hate or murder. But it is your personal decision to make in your life as you follow the laws of your God.

I believe that those who think that through militant claims and actions, they will turn our nation into a godly nation, have not understood the prophecies that have been given us to understand what is going to happen to the world as we move inexorably closer to the day of God's judgment. God asks His children to know and understand and follow the truth. God asks His children to work to make the knowledge of salvation known to as many as possible. And friends, if we will just do that. Just teach others who Jesus is and that faith in him will gain eternal life... then all the other issues will take care of themselves. If everyone in the US were born again, then we wouldn't have this issue of abortion and other ills of our nation, but we are addressing that issue in the wrong direction. We try to force the 'law' on people and until people understand and accept the truth about Jesus, following the 'law' is of no value to anyone even if we are successful in forcing them to adopt the 'law'.

For by observance of the 'law' shall no man be saved. So, how many out there think that they are 'saving' people by forcing them to obey the law?

God bless you.
In Christ, Ted

 

[ProudMomxmany]

Actually he's in the White House because the majority of Blacks voted for him because he's Black. They wouldn't have cared if he ran on a "Let's imprison all the White folks" platform. He's Black and he's their president. It makes them feel good because a Black man holds the highest office in the land.

Racist much? That sort of attitude is unconscionable in one who claims Christ. Or do you just assume that everyone here is White/Anglo-Saxon/Protestant?

Some of us are not and find your attitude hurtful.

 

[miamited]

Racist much? That sort of attitude is unconscionable in one who claims Christ. Or do you just assume that everyone here is White/Anglo-Saxon/Protestant?

Some of us are not and find your attitude hurtful.

Hi proud,

I agree. His comments show a great lack of wisdom and knowledge as to the make-up of the votes cast for President Obama. I also agree that comments such as that are are not representative of someone who would claim to have the Spirit of Truth living within them.

God bless you.
In Christ, Ted

 

[Psalm 91]

Observe, y'all, what happens when that type is cornered because their ramblings have been revealed for what they are: Nonsensical.
They then begin with personal jabs to draw attention away from their failure, and attempt intimidation. Sometimes physical, but in this case spiritual. The goal is the same: To get those who DARE disagree with their claims of imminent abuction to alien zoos, to surrender and say "Oh, yeah, of course, you're right, I see it now!".

And when that doesn't happen, they get even more obsessed with how right they are, even though they haven't given any...single...reason for why anyone should believe them.

Repeat ad infinitum.

It's really quite entertaining

I think that was disrespectful, MrLuther. Everyone has a right to say what they believe. I don't understand why you are so offended by that post.

 

[Psalm 91]

True power rest behind the throne,regardless of who is sitting in the white house,always been that way,always will!!!!!!

Seems to me people are just up in arms because he is BLACK!!!!!!!

You see, it's comments like yours that make people fearful of saying things against Obama openly, especially the media. They know the first thing the Democrats will do is scream, "RACIST!". So everyone puts up with him even when he lies to the people. Do you think that is how it should be? Isn't that like the emperor with no clothes or something like that. I mean, it convinces Obama that he is loved by all when that is not necessarily true but only because he is given special treatment out of fear. Do you think that all black people should be given special treatment? Do you think that their race would thrive better if people were honest with them? I worked with some black nurses who were always talking about how great it was down south. I asked them why they liked it there so much better than up north and they said because people are more honest down there. Up here we call the south predjudiced but to the black people, they are honest. No one likes being lied to unless they are narcissistic, which adequately describes Obama. There shouldn't be a fear of Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson getting on tv and calling a certain network racist because they criticized Obama, unless they criticize his race. If they are talking about how he handled Syria, what does that have to do with race? But these race-baiters hold everyone hostage out of guilt over slavery, etc. It's very annoying. I don't like him because he's a communist, plain and simple.

 

[Psalm 91]

I'm not bossing you at all. I'm just asking you to make sense, that's all. And though "troll" is something that's said far too often on forums, that IS the sentiment I'm getting from you....you don't seem to care about reason, or T

MrLuther, I can understand how Hetta feels. I don't really consider Obama to be "my" president. I call him, "your" president, "the" president and Obama. I've become a little more resigned lately, maybe because he only has three more years and then he will be gone. But in the beginning, I refused to think of him as my president. His values and policies did not represent me. He held the office of the president but he didn't represent me. So, if people feel that way, do you want them to lie to you just to make you right? IMO, everything about him is a lie, I have nothing in common with him, so he can go his way and I can go mine. I just don't relate. He might as well be Putin, as far as I'm concerned. I'm as unhappy as I would be if Putin were the president. I have not had a "happy" day politically since January of '09. I can't listen to him, it is like scraping your fingernail down a chalkboard, so I change the channel. I can't stand to hear anything good about him because I know it's a lie. How can I truly say he's my president? He's not. I ignore him for the most part. Same with Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton, only it was a little easier with them because they were not so blatantly removing my freedom and my country's heritage and success. I feel sorry for Beau and the new dog. They are just props.

 

[DrBubbaLove]

And? What do you think McCain and Romney were doing. You can tell when a politician is lying when you see their mouths moving.

Agreed and I would not mind getting rid of the lot and starting over.

But I do see a difference. I knew a thing or two about the liars put up by the Republicans. Whereas anyone daring to ask questions about the annoited one were immediately labled racists. or had their Federal returns audited.

I mean if Romney or McCain had been said to associate with known communinst, socialist and started their campaigns in the house of a known terroirst bomber, I would think my questions regarding such things deserved more answers than I was young, everyone was doing it or I lived in the neighborhood and did not really know them (yet for some reason hire his wife - I guess she made a good first impression at the campaign kickoff). And media should be allowed to ask such questions and press for real answers without being told they are only asking because he is black. It was so bad that many people voted for the man and knew NONE of that stuff about him. My mother being one of those.

 

[Psalm 91]

Your republican presidents did not stop abortion - therefore they must have also been in favor of abortion.

BTW, discussion of abortion is against the rules of this particular forum.

http://www.christianforums.com/rules/#faq_rule_0

This thread is not about abortion but Obama killed the Born Alive Infant Protection Act in the Illinois Senate. He then lied about why in a debate with John McCain. If that doesn't disturb you, that's fine. I personally, however would never vote for a candidate who thinks it's okay to dismember 20wk. infants while they are alive and well in their mothers' wombs.

Your question about what the Republicans have done for the issue is what most liberals bring up to me. I'm used to it. The fact is that there is no difference between Democrats and Republicans. Unless the people demand change, they will not change anything and in this country, those who are against Obamacare are not even passionate enough to demand it be defunded. They will continue to vote for the same Democratic political hacks in the next Senate election. So, unless the people want to end abortion, it will never end. As Bush said, "Abortion won't change until people's hearts change." And people's hearts are so cold these days that they not only believe abortion is okay, they stand by quietly when pedophiles receive a slap on the hand by liberal judges and do nothing. There are animal torturers out there, serial killers and very young gang members without hearts.

What will I do about it? I will either vote for the Tea Party candidate or I will stay home. No more do I really consider myself a Republican. They are just liberals in disguise. The two parties should be combined. There should be the Republicrats, Tea Party, Libertarian Party and the Independents. I will also never be afraid to remind Christians that they cannot pick and choose which parts of Scripture they are going to obey. And I'll just sit back and watch the anger displayed by pro-choicers. And I pray that Jesus will come soon.

 

[Yarddog]

Agreed and I would not mind getting rid of the lot and starting over.

Agreed.

 

[Psalm 91]

Agreed and I would not mind getting rid of the lot and starting over.

But I do see a difference. I knew a thing or two about the liars put up by the Republicans. Whereas anyone daring to ask questions about the annoited one were immediately labled racists. or had their Federal returns audited.

I mean if Romney or McCain had been said to associate with known communinst, socialist and started their campaigns in the house of a known terroirst bomber, I would think my questions regarding such things deserved more answers than I was young, everyone was doing it or I lived in the neighborhood and did not really know them (yet for some reason hire his wife - I guess she made a good first impression at the campaign kickoff). And media should be allowed to ask such questions and press for real answers without being told they are only asking because he is black. It was so bad that many people voted for the man and knew NONE of that stuff about him. My mother being one of those.

Fabulous post!!

 

[Armoured]

...started their campaigns in the house of a known terroirst bomber, I would think my questions regarding such things deserved more answers than I was young, everyone was doing it or I lived in the neighborhood and did not really know them (yet for some reason hire his wife - I guess she made a good first impression at the

Huh?
Known terrorist bomber?

 

[Ludicrus]

Agreed and I would not mind getting rid of the lot and starting over.

But I do see a difference. I knew a thing or two about the liars put up by the Republicans. Whereas anyone daring to ask questions about the annoited one were immediately labled racists. or had their Federal returns audited.

I mean if Romney or McCain had been said to associate with known communinst, socialist and started their campaigns in the house of a known terroirst bomber, I would think my questions regarding such things deserved more answers than I was young, everyone was doing it or I lived in the neighborhood and did not really know them (yet for some reason hire his wife - I guess she made a good first impression at the campaign kickoff). And media should be allowed to ask such questions and press for real answers without being told they are only asking because he is black. It was so bad that many people voted for the man and knew NONE of that stuff about him. My mother being one of those.

If someone could come up with a legal way to do it? I would in a heartbeat.

I'm still waiting for the documentary by one of Hillary's friends, that was to document that O supposedly threatened Bill and Hillary's daughter's life if they outted him for who he really was.

I'm wondering if they off'd her or threatened her to keep her mouth shut. She was some producer out in Hollywood I do believe.

 

[stellalunaCW]

Funny, I always thought the GOP intended to throw the race, so they added Palin to the ticket.

At any rate, I agree with all of the above reasons. As an elected official of our great nation, President Obama deserves our respect and prayer--not our best efforts to tear him down. If this isn't the hardest job in the world, I can't imagine what is. I sincerely hope his children never watch television, read newspapers, or go online.

And I'm sure you felt that way during the Bush administration, too.

Yes, I actually did. And having met Mr. Bush on several occasions, I found him to be quite pleasant and interesting.

 

[MrLuther]

So effectively you're saying that black people are less intelligent than white people, and that at heart they don't care if all white people are imprisoned?

And then they say that the cries of racism are unfounded.

The post you responded to does not mean that every single criticism of Obama by those who disagree with him, is racist.
What, if white conservatives criticise Obama, they're racist? I bet you didn't think black liberals that criticized Bush were racist, did ya?

 

[miamited]

The post you responded to does not mean that every single criticism of Obama by those who disagree with him, is racist.
What, if white conservatives criticise Obama, they're racist? I bet you didn't think black liberals that criticized Bush were racist, did ya?

Hi Mr. luther,

I'm going to guess that you didn't read the post that hetta was responding to.

God bless you.
In Christ, Ted

 

[Psalm 91]

Huh?
Known terrorist bomber?

Bill Ayers and his wife, Bernadine Dorhn are close friends of the Obamas. However, in the '70's they were members of the Weather Underground, an American terrorist organization. They bombed a few places and I think at least one person was killed. I think they were acquitted or they got a light sentence. They weren't in jail for very long. He went on to teach at the University of Illinois and she teaches at Northwestern. Imagine that, terrorists getting professorships at major universities...well, I guess when the major requirement in most colleges is to be a socialist, they fit the job requirement. Bill and Barack also were on a leftist "Board" but it's late and I can't remember which one, but they worked together and they both live in the Hyde Park area near the University of Chicago. I'm sure none of that means anything to you. But maybe you saw the picture of Ayers standing on the American flag on one of our American magazines?