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Why Is Mr Obama In The President's Office?

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So, you deny that Bush was POTUS? Are you just trolling me now?
Look, I'm not asking you to say that you supported his decisions! I'm asking you to employ normal, everyday, logic!
Hey, you're the one following me around bossing me about. Just stop responding.

You seem like a decent guy other than being bossy, so I'll just leave this alone.
 
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Hey, you're the one following me around bossing me about. Just stop responding.

I'm not bossing you at all. I'm just asking you to make sense, that's all. And though "troll" is something that's said far too often on forums, that IS the sentiment I'm getting from you....you don't seem to care about reason, or arguments, or even simple logic. You seem to be saying: "No, because LOL", and that's quite frustrating to someone who would very much like to be able to have an adult conversation.
 
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No, we are not all screwed, God's children are not in that mind set.
speak for yourself.
Kindly read the ENTIRETY of the post, or stop trolling us.
You are one angry person. Haven't overcome that? I don't have to read your post in entirety, the truth is evident.
 
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You are one angry person.

Actually, not really, but stupidity and laziness irritates me to no end.

Haven't overcome that?

Haven't overcome that need to troll?

I don't have to read your post in entirety, the truth is evident.

Yes, you freaking do before you pick and choose parts of my post, and leaves others out, making it appear as if I said the exact opposite of what I ACTUALLY said!!!
 
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13 Everyone must submit to governing authorities. For all authority comes from God, and those in positions of authority have been placed there by God. 2 So anyone who rebels against authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and they will be punished. 3 For the authorities do not strike fear in people who are doing right, but in those who are doing wrong. Would you like to live without fear of the authorities? Do what is right, and they will honor you. 4 The authorities are God’s servants, sent for your good. But if you are doing wrong, of course you should be afraid, for they have the power to punish you. They are God’s servants, sent for the very purpose of punishing those who do what is wrong. 5 So you must submit to them, not only to avoid punishment, but also to keep a clear conscience. (Romans 13)
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1 Peter 2:17 (Go to this verse :: Verse pop-up)

Peter, in three words, teaches a very difficult concept. He commands us to "Honor the king." The historical background of his words should give us a better perspective and teach us a powerful lesson.

Peter, having already written that we should honor all people, knew some brethren would resist honoring Nero, the heathen Roman emperor. Nero was a perverted madman, eventually hated by the Romans themselves. He had mercilessly tortured and killed hundreds of Christians in various cruel and demeaning ways. It is very difficult to expect Nero to be honored by someone whose mother had been crucified and used as a human candle for one of Nero's garden parties!

The pattern that we have seen all along surfaces again here. Nero was king. A king is to be honored, for he represents the office given him by God (Romans 13:1). Whether the king is honorable or not, he is king, and God says we should honor him as such. If we are resisting the power they have, we are resisting God's ordinance (verse 2). Paul even calls the civil authorities "ministers" or servants of God (verse 4).

In our time, we have seen a dishonored presidency. We do not need details, as we have heard them over and over. If Peter were writing today, he would say, "Honor the president." As badly as America's recent president has conducted his personal life, it still pales besides Nero's life, many of whose actions are unprintable. Regardless, Christians are still to honor him.

That is a tough order! Many of the early Christians no doubt despised Nero's reckless, godless behavior. Some had personal reasons to hate him. The commands from our King, however, remain the same: Forgive those who trespass against you (Matthew 6:14). "Love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you" (Matthew 5:44). Honor the king.

When we obey God's command to honor all people, we are following our heavenly King and honoring Him. Then what happens? Jesus answers in John 12:26: "If anyone serves Me, let him follow Me; and where I am, there My servant will be also. If anyone serves Me, him My Father will honor."

So first we humble ourselves, then give honor and respect even to those who might appear to be unworthy of honor and respect. The result? God the Highest, the Supreme Being in the entire universe, will personally bestow honor and glory on those who have obeyed this and other commands. This is God's way: The more we give, the more we receive. The more honor we give, the more honor we will also receive.

Tough as it may be, we should make it our aim to honor everyone—all the time

Elohim (Forerunner Commentary) - Bible Tools
 
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I'm not the one who voted for "fundamental change".
You didn't have to , again, democracy.

And it's not "everybody else". The reason why he won this time is first, because the election was unfair. *snip*

Have you ever noticed that after every. single. election. there's a bunch of sore losers claiming that their side didn't really lose, the process was unfair, or the other side cheated, or if things had been different then more people would have voted for them? To everyone who does this, yeah, we get it, you're unhappy your prefered candidate lost. So why not do something constructive and try to help your next prefered candidate win, rather than do nothing until he loses, then complain?

I love my country but I don't like what it has become, especially since the people voted for that man.
What, specifically, has changed since Obama came to office that wasn't already well under way before? IIRC, abortion was legal under Bush, too. Also IIRC, abortion rates in the US peaked in '89, and has been declining since '95. Therefore, if abortion is the President's direct responsibility, Bush 41 seems to be worse than Obama.

This country will be punished for it's immorality and it's celebration of immorality.
See, you keep saying that, but what possible reason do you have to rthink this is the case? You don't like abortion? That's fine, I don't either. But, in recent history, we've seen plenty of countries and world leaders doing a bunch of things at least as bad as abortion, if not far worse. Stalin's USSR springs to mind, and God never smote his country, nor him. So if God didn't intervene when Stalin was doing his thing, what makes you think America is any different? Further, while I agree abortion is bad, at least Obama isn't FORCING anyone to have them, unlike some places. Places which remain completely un-God destroyed.
 
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...they voted for a man who is in favor of infanticide...He is in favor of infanticide...

You use that word...it does not mean what you think it means...

it may just be having to live with the communism many voted for.

The USA is not, never has been, and almost certainly never will be, a communist country. I doubt very many people - maybe a tiny fraction of a percentage at most - voted for communism in the last election.
 
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What, specifically, has changed since Obama came to office that wasn't already well under way before? IIRC, abortion was legal under Bush, too. Also IIRC, abortion rates in the US peaked in '89, and has been declining since '95. Therefore, if abortion is the President's direct responsibility, Bush 41 seems to be worse than Obama.
How long is it appropriate to wait for the answer to a question before posting the crickets GIF?
 
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Yes! and we have Obama to thank for that. The world has lost respect for our country since Obama has bowed to the muslim countries.. Oboma is a muslim at heart.

Actually, the world lost respect for the USA because of George W Bush's activities and statements, and respect was restored when Obama was elected.

Not sure he's ever "bowed to Muslim countries," and if he's a Muslim at heart he's not a very good one, having been an active churchgoer for much of his adult life, and also being, by his own testimony, a Christian. Also, I've seen at least one picture of him drinking beer and smoking a cigarette. Assuming that's real and not a photoshop job, neither of those, AIUI, are things a Muslim would do...
 
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Yes! and we have Obama to thank for that. The world has lost respect for our country since Obama has bowed to the muslim countries.. Oboma is a muslim at heart.

I cannot describe quite how amusing it is to the rest of the world that so many Americans think their global standing is even remotely affected by what religion their President is/is not.
 
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Actually he's in the White House because the majority of Blacks voted for him because he's Black. They wouldn't have cared if he ran on a "Let's imprison all the White folks" platform. He's Black and he's their president. It makes them feel good because a Black man holds the highest office in the land.
 
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Actually he's in the White House because the majority of Blacks voted for him because he's Black. They wouldn't have cared if he ran on a "Let's imprison all the White folks" platform. He's Black and he's their president. It makes them feel good because a Black man holds the highest office in the land.
Have you ever noticed that after every. single. election. there's a bunch of sore losers claiming that their side didn't really lose, the process was unfair, or the other side cheated, or if things had been different then more people would have voted for them? To everyone who does this, yeah, we get it, you're unhappy your prefered candidate lost. So why not do something constructive and try to help your next prefered candidate win, rather than do nothing until he loses, then complain?

P.S. Blacks are a minority. Even if every single one of them voted for him, that wouldn't be enough to elect him.
 
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