You know that is true stone can not hurt you while is laying on the ground unless you fall on it. True a picture hang on the wall can not hurt you. IOW thihngs in and of themselves cannot hurt you. But do have the power to hurt you? Absoultely! when you interact with them in some way. The problem with the law is you interact with it liked or not. It is not the stone that hurts you it is the unavoidable interaction with the stone that does. It will do violence to you. In this case it is both spiritually/mentally and physically. Is this not hostile causing unfavourable as in detrimental transactions to an individual?
One may say adiltery has not hurt me. Really? Be honest. At the least it changes permently the relationship on every level with one's spouce and in some cases even causes death. One may also say such is not related to the law. Really? The law always wins unless one finds grace which voids the law. This holds true for any law anywhere a law has jurisdiction. The interesting thing is the law has no jurisdiction over the Christian. For the Christian the law has been revoked and has no jurisdiction/power.
if the law can affect without the presence of anyone, then why it has been written that there will be no who to stop the antichrists except the Lord Jesus Christ Himself?!
2 Thessalonians 2:7-9 "For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders"
and why during the old testament God said to the israelites that they must fulfil/execute the law by stoning, etc.?!
Deuteronomy 22:20-21 "But if this thing be true, and the tokens of virginity be not found for the damsel: Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die: because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the harlot in her father's house: so shalt thou put evil away from among you."
But wait am I saying adultery still can not hurt an individual even as the law requires? No! This is because adultery is sin. Sin also destroys. Remember sin was present before the law. So sin is not only violation of the law. Most all sin also violates the law. No not all sin violates the law. Rom 14:23 ...for whatsoever is not of faith is sin. There is no point to be found in the law requiring faith i.e. thou shalt have faith. Yet lack of faith is sin.
if an adultery doesn't hurt any human, then it is not an adultery
Romans 13:8-10 "Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law. For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery(i.e. do not intrude/coerce/enslave), Thou shalt not kill(i.e. do not hurt/harm/murder), Thou shalt not steal(i.e. do not bereave/rob), Thou shalt not bear false witness(i.e. do not defame/slander/libel/vilify), Thou shalt not covet(i.e. do not curse/execrate/imprecate); and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law."
then if the infidel people are sinful only because they have no faith, then God would be unrighteous, because what of it if some humans do not believe, but do not cause hurt to another?!
Romans 2:14-29 "For when the Gentiles, which have not the law(i.e. when the infidel/non-occult people, viz. the ordinary users who do not practise faith/occultism), do by nature the things contained in the law(i.e. do not violate by nature the things in the Holy Law of (the) faith), these, having not the law(i.e. having not a religion/spirituality/occultism), are a law unto themselves: Which shew the work of the law(i.e. of the Holy Law) written in their hearts(i.e. in their insides/spirits), their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another; In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men(i.e. the human spiritual/religious/occult affairs) by Jesus Christ according to my gospel. Behold, thou art called a Jew(i.e. a cleric/believer), and restest in the law, and makest thy boast of God, And knowest his will, and approvest the things that are more excellent, being instructed out of the law; And art confident that thou thyself art a guide of the blind, a light of them which are in darkness, An instructor of the foolish, a teacher of babes, which hast the form of knowledge and of the truth in the law. Thou therefore which teachest another, teachest thou not thyself? thou that preachest a man should not steal, dost thou steal(i.e. do you bereave against the Will of God)? Thou that sayest a man should not commit adultery, dost thou commit adultery(i.e. do you intrude/coerce/enslave)? thou that abhorrest idols, dost thou commit sacrilege(i.e. do you commit iniquity in the faith)? Thou that makest thy boast of the law, through breaking the law(i.e. the Holy Law of (the) faith) dishonourest thou God? For the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles through you, as it is written. For circumcision(i.e. because the faith) verily profiteth, if thou keep the law(i.e. the Holy Law of (the) faith): but if thou be a breaker of the law, thy circumcision is made uncircumcision(i.e. is (be-)come spiritual/religious iniquity). Therefore if the uncircumcision(i.e. if the infidel/non-occult human) keep the righteousness of the law, shall not his uncircumcision(i.e. its unbelief) be counted for circumcision(i.e. for faithfulness)? And shall not uncircumcision which is(i.e. infidel/non-occult human that is such) by nature, if it fulfil the law(i.e. after it does not violate the Holy Law of (the) faith), judge thee, who by the letter and circumcision dost transgress the law(i.e. the Holy Law of (the) faith)? For he is not a Jew(i.e. a righteous cleric/believer), which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: But he is a Jew(i.e. a righteous cleric/believer), which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart(i.e. of the faith), in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.",
Romans 3:1-31 "What advantage then hath the Jew(i.e. the cleric/believer)? or what profit is there of circumcision(i.e. of (the) faith/spiritual ministry)? Much every way: chiefly, because that unto them(i.e. unto the spiritual servants) were committed the oracles(i.e. the holy ministries) of God. For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith(i.e. the faithfulness) of God without effect? God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar(i.e. every human incompetent/incapable as opposed to Him); as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings(i.e. in Your Righteousness, which is the Word of complete salvation to all humans), and mightest overcome when thou art judged(i.e. when You are doing Your Act, which is the work on providing complete and eternal life to all humans). But if our unrighteousness commend the righteousness of God, what shall we say? Is God unrighteous who taketh vengeance? (I speak as a man) God forbid: for then how shall God judge the world? For if the truth of God hath more abounded through my lie unto his glory; why yet am I also judged as a sinner? And not rather, (as we be slanderously reported, and as some affirm that we say,) Let us do evil, that good may come? whose damnation is just. What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews(i.e. both clerics/believers) and Gentiles(i.e. and disbelievers), that they are all under sin(i.e. under the system of spiritual/religious iniquity, some of them as its servants, while others of them as its victims); As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one. Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues(i.e. with their spiritual/religious activities) they have used deceit(i.e. they have done abuse/iniquity); the poison of asps is under their lips(i.e. there is unrighteousness in their vindication): Whose mouth(i.e. whose spiritual work) is full of cursing and bitterness: Their feet are swift to shed blood(i.e. they are fast to cause harm in their actions): Destruction and misery are in their ways: And the way of peace have they not known: There is no fear of God before their eyes. Now we know that what things soever the law(i.e. the Scripture) saith, it saith to them who are under the law(i.e. who are clerics/believers): that every mouth may be stopped(i.e. in order the whole spiritual/religious iniquity (to) be stopped), and all the world may become(i.e. because all kingdom of human(666) religion is) guilty before God. Therefore by the deeds of the law(i.e. by the deeds of human religion) there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law(or: by the human(666) spiritual/religious activity) is the knowledge of(i.e. is the fall under (the)) sin. But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law(i.e. by the Holy Tradition/Scripture) and the prophets(i.e. and the true prophets); Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe(viz. by all righteous believers and in all infidel people): for there is no difference: For all have sinned(i.e. because, whether or not, all people are incompetent/incapable as opposed to Him), and come short of the glory of God; Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness(i.e. His perfect love, viz. which is towards all humans): that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth(i.e. and justifier by those who believe) in Jesus. Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works(i.e. by human abilities)? Nay: but by the law of faith(i.e. but by the faithfulness to the perfect love). Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith(i.e. by Faithfulness) without the deeds of the law(viz. without a need of this some human to be a God, or of human intervention in the administrative Work(-s) of God). Is he the God of the Jews(i.e. of the clerics/believers) only? is he not also of the Gentiles(i.e. of the infidel people)? Yes, of the Gentiles also: Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision(i.e. the clerics/believers) by faith(i.e. by their right faith in Him), and uncircumcision(i.e. and the infidel humans) through faith(viz. being faithful to take care of them, having believe inside them in lieu of themselves). Do we then make void the law through faith(i.e. the Holy Law of (the) faith)? God forbid: yea, we establish the law."
Then the 10 Cs have no value in reality if your argument holds water. No the hostility (actual physical manifestations) between two things or people is a result of sin and not casued by the law. The law seeks to regulate sin out of existence. The law has failed miserably thanks to God's gift of free will that can not be rejected. This is the fault of the law: the law can not change the heart. (see Rom 8) Free will can be surendered by submission, but that is a choice of free will and submission can changed back to rebellion.
Now to tell some one not to do something is against/hostile to/inimical to them and their free will.
rather your arguments look like: "i never surrender my imposition"
Are you adding to the Scripture with your comments. Jesus' verbal conversation was - He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her. There is no record of law discussion.
Your use of the Ten Commandments written with the Finger of God, one of which is: "Thou shalt not kill." violates the law's requirements as you have used it. This invalidates and makes the law worthless. Violation requires death administered by the law as mentioned in the quoted passage.
Now do you want to talk about cheap grace?
bugkiller
a "cheap grace" is when some pharisee (try to) make the Holy Commandments of God to be difficult or absurd, because Jesus Christ has clearly shown the importance of the Ten Commandments reminding about them by writing with His finger on the ground as the God wrote them on two tables of stone in the time of Moses, or why did Jesus begin to write with His finger on the ground exactly when the scribes and pharisees asked Him about the woman who was taken in adultery?!, was this idle?!
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