Where is your evidence creationists?

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Let me just get on my knees and throw my hands up to you incognito.......wow. So its money that makes all the difference eh? I am still fairly new here.....and if I find the site worthy I will gladly donate. I am still deciding...there is a lot I like and somethings I don't like.

Is there a hierarchy here? I am less credible because I am a newer member so I should just shut up? I made an observation that I think makes sense and I have every right to make comment about it whether I have been here one day, one week or a year.

I still wonder why athiests just love hanging around a site or threads debating a god they say does not exist....

Let me know the ranking system here....ok, just so I know. LOL

And it is none of your business who I give money too....or what I support.

You do know there are areas of this forum for Christians only, right? Hint: Physical & Life Sciences is not one of them.
 
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I still wonder why athiests just love hanging around a site or threads debating a god they say does not exist...
I think God convicts a lot of them to come here, so they can get a good dose of how faith works.
 
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I think God convicts a lot of them to come here, so they can get a good dose of how faith works.

That's the right attitude, but apparently some want to, hmmm... how should I say this? Preach to the choir!
 
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You could well be right but how come no one else in the world of science and business believes you?
everything you say could be 110% right but no one believes you or backs you with one penny, how come?
what does the rest of the world know that you don't? do oil companies ask creation scientists to help them?
do any businesses in the world ask creation scientists to help them with ANYTHING?
if we didn't know better we would think that creation scientists are only there to fool creationists.

It's strange when you think how much the creation scientists of AiG have discovered over the years they have existed,
by the way what have they discovered? what have they contributed to the knowledge of mankind?

You know I could care less if you believe us or not. We are on a Christian forum and you are big said athiest who hangs around here.........why? Why wont any athiest here have the guts to just call it like it is?

And look at the oil companies the past few years......maybe they should turn from who they ask for advice to those who believe in God.

What have athiests created to benefit mankind?
 
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You know I could care less if you believe us or not. We are on a Christian forum and you are big said athiest who hangs around here.........why? Why wont any athiest here have the guts to just call it like it is?

Spoken like a true Christian! :thumbsup:

And look at the oil companies the past few years......maybe they should turn from who they ask for advice to those who believe in God.

Oil companies (just like any other company) take advice from whoever makes them have more profit.

What have athiests created to benefit mankind?

Hmmm... Let me think... I know the answer to this one. How about we start with electricity!
 
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What is the name of the website could you please tell us?

If you dig a little deeper than the name you will find out this website's mission statement. I pasted it below, in case you missed it (red font color mine), if you still want to ban all non-Christian from posting here you should make a formal suggestion.

Mission:

1. To establish and grow a Christian community that is open to everyone (of all faiths, beliefs, and nations) guided by rules driven by Christian principles which keep in mind:
Gal 5:22-23 GNT But the Spirit produces love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, humility, and self-control. There is no law against such things as these.

2. To provide a meeting place for Christians to fellowship with one another and outreach to non-Christians, keeping in mind:
2 Cor 5:17-18 GNT Anyone who is joined to Christ is a new being; the old is gone, the new has come. All this is done by God, who through Christ changed us from enemies into his friends and gave us the task of making others his friends also.
 
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Let's see. I post a message showing Astrid's claims about the content of Dawkin's "The Ancestor's Tale" to be false and why I would know better than she does and dancin' responds with a multi-paragraphy reply. Let's see how much of it has to do with the actual content of my original post.

Well gee....what difference does it make that you have your picture taken with Dawkins?

This is germane because the point of my post was the content of a book he wrote and my familiarity with it as opposed to Astrid quoting a lying Wikipedia entry. On topic so far.

I mean come on. You obviously idolize the guy and I am happy, thrilled that you indeed have a picture that you can display on your mantle.

I am wondering if he knows what that first cause was? Did you ask him by any chance? He is a Jewish athiest so he makes the claim that God does not exist...just wondering in that book of his if he provides the evidence to the factual statement he makes.

I see Dawkins as a sad sort of guy. A guy who makes a living taking pot shots at people he thinks are idiots who can't think for themselves. His is not just a comment or worldview about a God that he denies exists its about taking down the religious community...so he with gun in hand targets believers. Why? Why does this turn him on so much? In fact why does this turn most of you on?
To lurk around a Christian forum....why? What do you get out of this just curious?

For Dawkins this is not just a friendly discussion of ideals, philosophy or worldviews...this is a war that he a part of.........His vow to destroy Christianity.

That is a lot......of hatred I tell ya. So you stood next to a person who hates, who is so closeminded that he obviously does not repspect someones right to beleive how they want to believe...to feel how they want to feel.....and to examine life and interpret it like they want to do.

Professor Dawkins makes a festive vow to 'destroy Christianity' | Mail Online

Dawkins asks Hitchens.......... "Do you ever worry that IF we win and, so to speak, destroy Christianity, that vacuum would be filled by Islam?"

He uses the word......."if." So he obviously is not so sure of the claims he makes is he? It is a game to him...a war against humans that do not hate him but choose to believe another way.

"So it's good to know, at last, where Prof Dawkins really stands - and, incidentally, it's not where the gracious, generous-spirited and libertarian Hitchens stands. Hitchens hates totalitarianism. And it's totalitarians who have tried and failed throughout history to 'destroy Christianity'. Dawkins now sees that as a measure of winning. Good luck with that, Richard. And happy Christmas.'

Has science proved there is no spiritual realm that miracles do not and have not ever happened? Hey we have one athiest poster on there who says his flashlight went on and off when his wife walked by...that this proved his love.

And we Christians are crazy.........yea right. And they say Christians speak with hatred..........what is Dawkins speech?

O.k. Looks like nothing else in this long disjointed rant against Dawkins and/or atheism had anything to do with the content of "The Ancestor's Tale" so I'll just ignore it. Thanks for stopping by, but please try to stay on topic per forum rules.
 
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Let me just get on my knees and throw my hands up to you incognito.......wow. So its money that makes all the difference eh? I am still fairly new here.....and if I find the site worthy I will gladly donate. I am still deciding...there is a lot I like and somethings I don't like.

Is there a hierarchy here? I am less credible because I am a newer member so I should just shut up? I made an observation that I think makes sense and I have every right to make comment about it whether I have been here one day, one week or a year.

I still wonder why athiests just love hanging around a site or threads debating a god they say does not exist....

Let me know the ranking system here....ok, just so I know. LOL

And it is none of your business who I give money too....or what I support.

Wow, just wow. Not only do you continue to avoid responding to the debunking of your "frauds" claim, your "entropy" claim, or any of the other science based topics you raised, now you're going to try and play the martyr card after trying to make some sort of point by noting that this is Christianforums.com to people who have been members here for more years than you have been a member for months?

You might "still wonder why atheists blah blah", but I contiue to be befuddled by people like you who avoid the topic at hand or responses to their claims and instead go with "this is Christianforums.com" to people who have been members her for years. Are you somehow under the impression that we accidentally found our way to a forum, registered and in some cases joined as site supporters without knowing the nature of the forum? :confused:
 
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If you dig a little deeper than the name you will find out this website's mission statement. I pasted it below, in case you missed it (red font color mine), if you still want to ban all non-Christian from posting here you should make a formal suggestion.

Mission:

1. To establish and grow a Christian community that is open to everyone (of all faiths, beliefs, and nations) guided by rules driven by Christian principles which keep in mind:
Gal 5:22-23 GNT But the Spirit produces love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, humility, and self-control. There is no law against such things as these.

2. To provide a meeting place for Christians to fellowship with one another and outreach to non-Christians, keeping in mind:
2 Cor 5:17-18 GNT Anyone who is joined to Christ is a new being; the old is gone, the new has come. All this is done by God, who through Christ changed us from enemies into his friends and gave us the task of making others his friends also.


Guided by rules driven by Christian principles.....yea. How many athiests agnostics....follow this one? I am not talking about all of them...but there are enough that make pot shots and demean believers on here and the forum allows this to happen. This is a place where the Great Commission is to be carried out....that means every Christian on here should be spreading the gospel. This is a Christian site or it is suppose to be just that. Is it? I am still not sure...seems to me the humanists are in control here....because I do not see many Christians in many moral discussion areas. They are mainly made up of agnostics and athiests...who love discussions about a God they reject. Like Dawkins...they come with motives....not to be open to the gospel....but to try to deman those who believe it.



Read the scriptures that go with the rules.
 
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I think God convicts a lot of them to come here, so they can get a good dose of how faith works.

So God wants atheists to come here and get a negative impression of how faith works?? :confused:


This is a place where the Great Commission is to be carried out....that means every Christian on here should be spreading the gospel.

Just my two cents, but you guys are not doing a very good job of it.
 
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Guided by rules driven by Christian principles.....yea. How many athiests agnostics....follow this one? I am not talking about all of them...but there are enough that make pot shots and demean believers on here and the forum allows this to happen. This is a place where the Great Commission is to be carried out....that means every Christian on here should be spreading the gospel. This is a Christian site or it is suppose to be just that. Is it? I am still not sure...seems to me the humanists are in control here....because I do not see many Christians in many moral discussion areas. They are mainly made up of agnostics and athiests...who love discussions about a God they reject. Like Dawkins...they come with motives....not to be open to the gospel....but to try to deman those who believe it.



Read the scriptures that go with the rules.

I love seeing atheists on Christian forums. It says alot about the quality of their life.......

You are absolutely correct.
 
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Let's see. I post a message showing Astrid's claims about the content of Dawkin's "The Ancestor's Tale" to be false and why I would know better than she does and dancin' responds with a multi-paragraphy reply. Let's see how much of it has to do with the actual content of my original post.



This is germane because the point of my post was the content of a book he wrote and my familiarity with it as opposed to Astrid quoting a lying Wikipedia entry. On topic so far.



O.k. Looks like nothing else in this long disjointed rant against Dawkins and/or atheism had anything to do with the content of "The Ancestor's Tale" so I'll just ignore it. Thanks for stopping by, but please try to stay on topic per forum rules.

The latest flavour of the month is that Afarensis is NOT in the human line. One would think that would be the end of it. However, as usual, there are those researchers that arrive at their own conclusions and do not necessarily accept work from their own researchers if they do not like it or if it is going to make a goose of some of their own previous work or claims to fame.

I am still going to get the book, but I must say, I am not rushing to read outdated woffle.

Wiki cites Dawkins. All USincognito has to do is contact them and give them the information and how it is misrepresented and they will look into it and if validated will change the content. It is as simple as that.

Another example of great story telling is all the woffle about Turkana Boys long femoral neck that made him into a long distance athlete. Now that he is short waddler that was not running anywhere, where does this story they have woffled on woth for years go?...into that great garbage bin of evolutionary delusions past along with a stack of other so called 'evidence for evolution'.

The upshot of it all is that evolutionary researchers have no idea what they are talking about and will present any dreamed up sceanrio as evidence, regardless of the lack of plausibility. An other evolutionary delusion is half wits giving birth to fully dependent babies, that reach independence quickly like a chimp is just one recent example of stupidity, a lack of common sense and ignoring what is observed. They now have the unenviable situation of an ape with a larger and more capacious pelvic opening than modern women giving birth to babies with only 30-50% of human size. Why do evos suppose that is? I know...it is because as I have suggested all along half wits cannot raise fully dependent babies. So now they come up with half human babies that were born dependent and grew up quickly like a chimp to try to resolve the dilemma. What absolute and utter nonsense. :confused:

http://www.fas.harvard.edu/~bioanth/tanya_smith/pdf/Science 11.14.2008.pdf

I think evolutionsists, particularly atheists will believe anything they are told regardless of how silly and non plausible it may be.

Nothing evolutionsist produce is credible, yet creationists have to work with it because if we site creationist work we get insulted as if their mess and 150 years of change means anything.

Evolutionists will not let real science and observation get in the way of a good story.
 
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There is nothing I misrepresent. Evolutionary researchers agree with many things I say, the difference being they have another evolutionary 'story' and scenario instead of just sucking up the fact they truly have no idea, whereas creationists have creationist interpretations. The evidence for creation lies in much more than the fossil evidence and it is no worse than what you lot can present as flavour of the month.


Not surprisingly, there is much disagreement among paleoanthropologists with respect to reconstructing phylogenetic relationships for the australoptihecines. Furthermore, the discovery of new fossil specimens that are unexpected often cause dramatic re-organizations of hominid phylogenies. In addition to this, some new fossils are so out of line with current phylogenies that they cannot be positioned anywhere sensibly on phylogenetic trees and are often left aside with question marks accompanying them (for example: Orrorin tugenensis, Sahelanthropus tchadensis and Kenyanthropus platyops). Finally, paleoanthropologists are people with egos (often large ones) and, not surprisingly, often place their recently discovered fossil specimens at points on the trees which are thought to be the most crucial in the grand scheme of human evolution (being ancestral to the genus Homo for example). For all of these reasons, reconstructing hominid phylogenies is extremely problematic, but still a very necessary task if one wishes to comprehend the evolution of the australopithecines.
Australopithecine Evolution



"Researchers have to stop publishing papers that say, essentially, 'This fossil is an early hominid, so suck it up and accept it,'" Wood says. "Nature and Science could change this practice overnight if they wanted to."
Anthropologist Tim White of the University of California, Berkeley, responds that, at least for Ardi, comparative studies published in 2009 ruled out the possibility that she was an ape. White led the team that excavated and analyzed Ardi's 4.4-million-year-old partial skeleton.
Ardi's remains show many similarities to ensuing hominids in East Africa, White adds. He lumps all proposed early hominids into an Ardipithecus genus that evolved into the Ardipithecus genus by 4.1 million years ago. In contrast, Wood and Harrison suspect that early hominids -- whatever their identities -- branched out in many different evolutionary directions.

Human Ancestors Have Identity Crisis : Discovery News

Evolutionists can present all sorts of research to back contradictory assertions. Why do evos suppose that is?

It matters not whom is right or whom is wrong in any evolutionary debate because another possibility is.....

NONE OF THEM ARE RIGHT........



NONE OF THEM ARE RIGHT......
 
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NONE OF THEM ARE RIGHT......
That's cute. You guys all banding together to rip a concept you don't understand and refuse to try to understand because you think it's evil. Aw...

Except, here's the thing... I'm more right than you are. And even if I'm someday proven wrong I'm still more right than you are. That's not an opinion or boasting. It's a proven fact. If you can prove you're reading these words then I can prove I'm more right than you are because only if the world exists in such a state that we're not really communicating by these words is it possible that I'm not more right than you are.
 
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I think evolutionsists, particularly atheists will believe anything they are told regardless of how silly and non plausible it may be.

If that were true, why don't we believe in creationism? Or angels? Or global floods? Or water turning into wine?

This has to be the most misleading post I have ever seen in this forum... Religious folks are the ones asked to blindly believe religious books. All scientists are seeking to breaking paradigms and are trained to question current scientific knowledge, I can guarantee you with 100% certainty that if someone were to propose (and provide evidence to support) a theory that was better than evolution they would probably get the Nobel prize for it. Today it is exceedingly rare for anybody to publish simple observations demonstrating evolution, because it is common knowledge.
 
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Guided by rules driven by Christian principles.....yea. How many athiests agnostics....follow this one? I am not talking about all of them...but there are enough that make pot shots and demean believers on here and the forum allows this to happen. This is a place where the Great Commission is to be carried out....that means every Christian on here should be spreading the gospel. This is a Christian site or it is suppose to be just that. Is it? I am still not sure...seems to me the humanists are in control here....because I do not see many Christians in many moral discussion areas. They are mainly made up of agnostics and athiests...who love discussions about a God they reject. Like Dawkins...they come with motives....not to be open to the gospel....but to try to deman those who believe it.

Read the scriptures that go with the rules.

Yes, and instead of spreading the gospel, you come here and tells every "infidel" to just shut up. Very Christian message. When sinners go to your church do you turn them away too?
 
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