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How is it that the Catholic Church is evil?
- By prodromos
- Denomination Specific Theology
- 647 Replies
Yet it is fine for you in your ignorance to claim we minimise the humanity of Christ It isn't arrrogance to point out a fact. If you actually familiarised yourself with Orthodox theology as I recommend, you would understand that we do not by any means, minimise Christ's humanity.
Are you trying to claim that Christ ceased to be God when He became man? That would be heresy. Otherwise I don't understand what the above has to do with what we've been discussing. What is your point?Tell me brother, when did Jesus emptied Himself and become man?
Here is the scripture.
“who, as He already existed in the form of God, did not consider equality with God something to be grasped, but emptied Himself by taking the form of a bond-servant and being born in the likeness of men. And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself by becoming obedient to the point of death: death on a cross.”
Philippians 2:6-8 NASB2020
Philippians 2:6-8 who, as He already existed in the form of God, did not consider equality with God something to be grasped, but emptied Himself by taking the form of a bond-servant and being born in the likeness of me | New American Standard Bible -
who, as He already existed in the form of God, did not consider equality with God something to be grasped, but emptied Himself by taking the form of a bond-servant and being born in the likeness of mebible.com
In other words, your opinion about what you think we teach is more important than learning what we actually teach. And you called me arrogant
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This is the scariest verse in the bible for believers
- By 1Tonne
- Christian Scriptures
- 128 Replies
I understand why you might feel that way. But there’s a big difference between fearmongering and giving a loving warning. Fearmongering is about manipulation, but warning people of real danger is about care and responsibility.
Even Jesus gave strong warnings that were not fearmongering. He said, “Do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather fear Him who can destroy both soul and body in hell” (Matthew 10:28). He also said, “If your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life maimed than with two hands to go into hell, where the fire never goes out” (Mark 9:43).
So yes, these words are sobering, but they’re meant to wake us up, not to manipulate us. If my post caused reflection, then that was its purpose.
You raise a really good point, Ephesians 2:10 does show that God has prepared unique works for each of us, and Paul is clear that the body of Christ has many different gifts. Not everyone is called to preach from a pulpit or be a missionary.Ephesians 2 also teaches that:
“For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand so that we would walk in them.”
Ephesians 2:10 NASB2020
Ephesians 2:10 For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand so that we would walk in them. | New American Standard Bible - NASB (NASB2020) | Download The Bible App Now
For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand so that we would walk in them.bible.com
God prepared works for us to do. To each his own. To generalize that all are the same by claiming that spreading the gospel is it then you missed the point. Paul also teaches that each has unique gifts given by God. I believe that people spread the gospel in different ways, some by words and some by actions.
But at the same time, Jesus’ command in Mark 16:15. “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation”, was given to all believers, not just to those with a specific gift. Evangelism may look different depending on our gifts: some are bold street preachers, some share one-on-one, some show Christ through hospitality or acts of service that open the door to conversations. But at some point, the gospel message has to be shared in words, because “faith comes from hearing, and hearing through the word of Christ” (Romans 10:17).
We are all different parts of the body of Christ, and we don’t all have the same giftings, but we have all been called to tell as many people the Gospel as possible.
-If you are an ear, listen to people’s problems; then tell them the Gospel.
-If you are a hand, serve others practically; then tell them the Gospel.
-If you are a mouth, teach; then tell the Gospel.
-If you are feet, go out into the streets or parks; and tell the Gospel.
Our gifts are not an excuse to avoid sharing Christ; they are tools to bring Him glory. Personally, I’m often a “foot”, going into the parks to share the Gospel. Sometimes I serve like a hand, or listen like an ear. But whatever role I’m in, the end goal is the same: to make Christ known - the spoken message.
We are not all called to be street preachers, but we should all have the desire to share the Gospel with as many people as possible.
I do want to be clear, though: hospitality or good deeds are not the Gospel. The Gospel is always a spoken message, the good news about Jesus’ death, burial, and resurrection. Acts of service and hospitality give us opportunities to share that message, and they can strengthen our witness by showing that our lives line up with what we say. But without the spoken word, people won’t know the saving truth, because “faith comes by hearing, and hearing through the word of Christ” (Romans 10:17).
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How is it that the Catholic Church is evil?
- By Hentenza
- Denomination Specific Theology
- 647 Replies
Your first question and your second statement fo not follow. Jusus has to be both fully human and fully God. Mary is therefore the mother of both.
One. The one that is fully God and the Jesus that emptied himself and took the form of a bond servant. Do you deny scripture?
Again, read scripture.
“who, as He already existed in the form of God, did not consider equality with God something to be grasped, but emptied Himself by taking the form of a bond-servant and being born in the likeness of men. And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself by becoming obedient to the point of death: death on a cross.”
Philippians 2:6-8 NASB2020
Philippians 2:6-8 who, as He already existed in the form of God, did not consider equality with God something to be grasped, but emptied Himself by taking the form of a bond-servant and being born in the likeness of me | New American Standard Bible -
who, as He already existed in the form of God, did not consider equality with God something to be grasped, but emptied Himself by taking the form of a bond-servant and being born in the likeness of me
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Which Jesus is Paul describing here?
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Trump to sign order renaming Pentagon 'Department of War': Sources
- By Vambram
- American Politics
- 33 Replies
The United States Department of War, also known as the War Department, was a cabinet-level agency responsible for the operation and maintenance of the U.S. military from its creation in 1789 until its dissolution in 1947. Led by a civilian Secretary of War, the department oversaw military affairs, finance, and procurement. It was the predecessor to the modern Department of Defense.
United States Department of War: Historical Overview & Definition | US Legal Forms
Discover the legal definition and historical significance of the United States Department of War, its role in military operations, and its evolution.
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