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Pope Francis Clarifies Comments on Sin and Homosexuality
- By Michie
- One Bread, One Body - Catholic
- 9 Replies
Father Martin published the Pope’s Spanish-language letter and an English translation on the website of Outreach on Jan. 27.
Pope Francis has written a letter to clarify his comments on sin and homosexuality from a recent interview with the Associated Press.
“When I said it is a sin, I was simply referring to Catholic moral teaching, which says that every sexual act outside of marriage is a sin,” the Pope wrote to Jesuit Father James Martin, in response to a request for clarification.
Francis said he was trying to say in the interview that criminalization of homosexuality “is neither good nor just.”
“As you can see, I was repeating something in general,” he wrote. “I should have said ‘It is a sin, as is any sexual act outside of marriage.’ This is to speak of ‘the matter’ of sin, but we know well that Catholic morality not only takes into consideration the matter, but also evaluates freedom and intention; and this, for every kind of sin.”
Father Martin published the Pope’s Spanish-language letter and an English translation on the website of Outreach on Jan. 27. Father Martin is the editor of Outreach, which describes itself as “an LGBT Catholic resource” operating under the auspices of America Media.
In an interview published Jan. 25 by AP, Pope Francis said, “Being homosexual is not a crime. It’s not a crime. Yes, but it’s a sin. Fine, but first let’s distinguish between a sin and a crime.”
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Pope Francis has written a letter to clarify his comments on sin and homosexuality from a recent interview with the Associated Press.
“When I said it is a sin, I was simply referring to Catholic moral teaching, which says that every sexual act outside of marriage is a sin,” the Pope wrote to Jesuit Father James Martin, in response to a request for clarification.
Francis said he was trying to say in the interview that criminalization of homosexuality “is neither good nor just.”
“As you can see, I was repeating something in general,” he wrote. “I should have said ‘It is a sin, as is any sexual act outside of marriage.’ This is to speak of ‘the matter’ of sin, but we know well that Catholic morality not only takes into consideration the matter, but also evaluates freedom and intention; and this, for every kind of sin.”
Father Martin published the Pope’s Spanish-language letter and an English translation on the website of Outreach on Jan. 27. Father Martin is the editor of Outreach, which describes itself as “an LGBT Catholic resource” operating under the auspices of America Media.
In an interview published Jan. 25 by AP, Pope Francis said, “Being homosexual is not a crime. It’s not a crime. Yes, but it’s a sin. Fine, but first let’s distinguish between a sin and a crime.”
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Pope Francis Clarifies Comments on Sin and Homosexuality
Father Martin published the Pope’s Spanish-language letter and an English translation on the website of Outreach on Jan. 27.
Is Chatbot the antichrist.
- By Diamond72
- Conspiracy Theories
- 97 Replies
I asked Chatbot about Adam and Eve and was told: "Adam is a biblical figure and it is not considered a historical or scientific fact that he was a real person." So I wonder is this yet another way for liberals to push their way into our schools? Every step of the way chatbot will claim that: "As a machine learning model, I do not have beliefs or the ability to hold any kind of religious or non-religious convictions." What a load of propaganda that is. You state an opinion when you say Adam was not a real person.
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Educators weigh the pros and cons of ChatGPT
While the technology can be used to cheat, it could also be a good classroom tool.
www.wgbh.org
Why is Ad Orientem worship so controversial?
- By Michie
- One Bread, One Body - Catholic
- 2 Replies
Until the 1960s, Catholics worshipped ad orientem, with priest and congregation facing the East during Mass. Originally Christians celebrated Mass before daybreak Sunday morning with the rising sun serving as a symbol of Christ’s resurrection (testified by Pliny the Younger’s letter to the Emperor Trajan in 112 A.D.). The common liturgical direction toward the East honored the resurrection and anticipated the Lord’s coming in glory. The oldest Christian church discovered in the world (without a later structure built over it), the house church at Dura-Europos in Syria, dating from the early 200s, was found with its altar touching the wall, facing East. Churches were constructed throughout history in this same fashion, with the altar (whether against the wall or not) oriented toward the East.
Even though there were more exceptions to a strict interpretation of this geographical direction in recent times, priest and people still worshipped facing the Lord together throughout the entire history of Catholic worship. Services facing the people arose during the Reformation, because ministers were focused on speaking to and leading the congregation. The priest during Catholic worship, however, acts in the person of Christ and leads the members of the Body in a common approach to the Father. The Mass does not focus on the people but seeks to give glory to the Father through Christ and in the Holy Spirit. The Mass is not about us ultimately but about coming into communion with God, worshipping him and being drawn into his life.
Why, then, did we change the direction of Catholic worship to face the people, called ad populum, in contrast to ad orientem? The Second Vatican Council did not mention this change and there is no official liturgical document from the 1960s that directed it. The thought following Vatican II’s constitution on the liturgy, Sacrosanctum Concilium, was that the Mass, which had been celebrated in an oft-inaudible Latin, should be more accessible to the people. In the experimental period between the constitution in 1963 and the promulgation of the reformed Mass of Pope Paul VI in 1969, the posture of facing the people had already become standard as a kind of spontaneous reaction to the liturgical mood of greater transparency and accessibility.
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Even though there were more exceptions to a strict interpretation of this geographical direction in recent times, priest and people still worshipped facing the Lord together throughout the entire history of Catholic worship. Services facing the people arose during the Reformation, because ministers were focused on speaking to and leading the congregation. The priest during Catholic worship, however, acts in the person of Christ and leads the members of the Body in a common approach to the Father. The Mass does not focus on the people but seeks to give glory to the Father through Christ and in the Holy Spirit. The Mass is not about us ultimately but about coming into communion with God, worshipping him and being drawn into his life.
Why, then, did we change the direction of Catholic worship to face the people, called ad populum, in contrast to ad orientem? The Second Vatican Council did not mention this change and there is no official liturgical document from the 1960s that directed it. The thought following Vatican II’s constitution on the liturgy, Sacrosanctum Concilium, was that the Mass, which had been celebrated in an oft-inaudible Latin, should be more accessible to the people. In the experimental period between the constitution in 1963 and the promulgation of the reformed Mass of Pope Paul VI in 1969, the posture of facing the people had already become standard as a kind of spontaneous reaction to the liturgical mood of greater transparency and accessibility.
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Why is Ad Orientem worship so controversial?
Until the 1960s, Catholics worshipped ad orientem, with priest and congregation facing the East during Mass. Originally Christians celebrated Mass before daybreak Sunday morning with the rising sun
denvercatholic.org
Did student know this was a Gay Cake?
- By Diamond72
- News & Current Events (Articles Required)
- 323 Replies
It is not clear if she knew what this cake represents or maybe she just thought it was pretty.
www.nbcnews.com
Christian school expels teen after rainbow sweater and cake were deemed ‘lifestyle violations’
The student’s mom said the school had given her daughter the book “Gay Girl, Good God," written by an ex-gay, prior to her expulsion.
www.nbcnews.com
"The Present Truth"
- By Pavel Mosko
- Controversial Christian Theology
- 12 Replies
I was watching a video about Seventh Day Adventism, and I ran across this term that I hadn't heard in decades. Actually, the first and last place I heard it was in the Charismatic movement. In the 90s when I was coming into the movement when I entered graduate school, is where I ran into the term. I read a book called "Prophets and the Prophetic Movement, by Bill Hamon. In that work, Bill Hamon quotes from an earlier work in the 1970s called "The Eternal Church" which was his take on both Church History and Ecclesiology coming from the earlier "Later Day Rain" movement of Pentecostalism.
In his book Hamon advocates a kind of spiritual Evolutionary view of Church History starting with Luther in the Reformation, where God through a series of movements brings back or properly establishes doctrines "That were lost to the Church". This process of restoration begins in traditional Protestantism and moves into various areas of American Revivalism culminating in the latest Charismatic movements. Below is a short video from the horse's mouth so to speak.
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Hamon states: “The restitution/restoration of the Church started in AD 1517 after more than a thousand years of the Church’s apostate condition, called the Dark Ages. On that date came ‘The Great Restoration of the Church,’ when the Protestant Movement was birthed. Beginning with that date there have been five major restorational movements: The Protestant, Holiness, Pentecostal, Charismatic, and Prophetic Movements.” (B.Hamon, “Apostles and Prophets” p.104) He also adds the Latter Rain Movement, Faith Movement (meaning the Word of Faith teaching popularized by Kenneth Hagin and Kenneth Copeland), and the Apostolic Movement (his of course).” (ibid. p.107)
In his book or books Ham tends to use the term "Present Truth" to describe the pinnacle of theological development or doctrinal understanding that was brought back to the Church via the latest Restoration movement.
(OK I will continue on this later depending on level of interest.... For those who know me probably know that I'm going to disagree with this kind of notion / paradigm / trope.
I guess a hint of that is that this posted in the Controversial Theologies board rather than some safe space board.)
In his book Hamon advocates a kind of spiritual Evolutionary view of Church History starting with Luther in the Reformation, where God through a series of movements brings back or properly establishes doctrines "That were lost to the Church". This process of restoration begins in traditional Protestantism and moves into various areas of American Revivalism culminating in the latest Charismatic movements. Below is a short video from the horse's mouth so to speak.
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Hamon states: “The restitution/restoration of the Church started in AD 1517 after more than a thousand years of the Church’s apostate condition, called the Dark Ages. On that date came ‘The Great Restoration of the Church,’ when the Protestant Movement was birthed. Beginning with that date there have been five major restorational movements: The Protestant, Holiness, Pentecostal, Charismatic, and Prophetic Movements.” (B.Hamon, “Apostles and Prophets” p.104) He also adds the Latter Rain Movement, Faith Movement (meaning the Word of Faith teaching popularized by Kenneth Hagin and Kenneth Copeland), and the Apostolic Movement (his of course).” (ibid. p.107)
In his book or books Ham tends to use the term "Present Truth" to describe the pinnacle of theological development or doctrinal understanding that was brought back to the Church via the latest Restoration movement.
(OK I will continue on this later depending on level of interest.... For those who know me probably know that I'm going to disagree with this kind of notion / paradigm / trope.
I guess a hint of that is that this posted in the Controversial Theologies board rather than some safe space board.)
