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A good poem i wrote

I want everybody to have fun in the sun and make them feel like number 1 ..i want everything golden like the golden sun..people living in peace and being blessed loving our creator and making things better for later. Like a rainbow after the storm ..i want everyone happy and blessed and not oppressed not just in the west give us all of your best i dont want noone stressed
I want the earth to thrive and survive
Everyone getting what they need and the poor being fed cause i hate bloodshed..i want a better life for me and you you know thats true..rendering to every man according to his work..love all around is what i have usually found ...give the poor your greatest gifts ...if we have faith the tides may turn and shift..i want us to love our brothers and sisters and people shining like the sun
And having lots of good times and fun..sharing the heavenly earth together in rainy or stormy weather
That would great if that is our fate saying sorry and to never give up its not too late...keep loving your sisters and brothers and feeding each other like a breastfeeding mother ..people treating each other right...can you see the light in what i say peace love and kindness goes a long way
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'Christ's path of healing': PCUSA returns land to Native American tribe in California

A regional body of The Presbyterian Church (USA) has returned a piece of land to a California-based Native American tribe, reportedly the first church in the state to do so.

The PC(USA) Presbytery of San Gabriel donated their La Casa de San Gabriel Community Center to the San Gabriel Band of Mission Indians, led by the Gabrieleno Tongva Tribal Council under Chief Anthony Morales.

The community center, which opened around 80 years ago to serve the Latino community, has since closed due to a lack of funding and changes in the local demographic.

The land return ceremony was held in August and featured representatives of the mainline Protestant denomination and the San Gabriel Band of Mission Indians, as well as San Gabriel Mayor Denise Menchaca.

A SGBMI spokesperson told The Christian Post via email this week that the Gabrieleno Tongva have lived in the area "since time immemorial," with their ancestors being "taken from their village locations all across their ancestral territory known as Tovaangar and enslaved at the San Gabriel Mission" during the 1770s.

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Teenager in MAGA hat ‘shot himself in the leg in fake kidnapping’ committed by 4 imaginary Hispanic men

Caden Speight, 17, texted his family that he had been abducted by ‘four Hispanic men’ in a van

Authorities issued an Amber Alert on Thursday in the search for the 6-foot-tall teen. He was last seen wearing a T-shirt, jeans and a MAGA hat, according to local news outlets.

Sheriff Billy Woods announced that Speight’s story was ‘completely made up’ and that he had actually purchased a bicycle, a tent and camping gear from a Walmart in Ocala and rode off on the bike after parking his truck on SW Highway.

‘Caden simply rode away towards Williston while the rest of us were left to think the worst, and my team was working in overdrive to solve this case.’

Speight shot himself using a handgun to keep up the ‘ruse’, according to the sheriff.

Since taxpayer-funded resources were used for the search it is still ‘on the table’ to press charges against Speight, the sheriff said.

Pope Leo XIV says Hegseth’s talk of war is ‘worrying’

Pope Leo XIV on Tuesday said the U.S. Department of Defense secretary’s way of speaking about war is “worrying.”

Addressing an audience of military brass summoned to Virginia, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth on Sept. 30 urged senior officers to lead with an eye on more “lethality.” President Donald Trump this month signed an executive order changing the department’s name to Department of War, although it has not been officially changed by Congress.

Asked about the secretary’s meeting with the generals and comments about readiness for war, Pope Leo said: “This way of speaking is worrying, because it shows each time an increase in tensions — this vocabulary, even shifting from ‘Minister of Defense’ to ‘Minister of War.’ Let’s hope it is only a way of speaking. Certainly, they have a style of government where they want to show strength, to put pressure, and we hope it works, but that there will not be war. One must always work for peace.”

The Chicago-born Pope Leo spoke to reporters as he was leaving the papal villa of Castel Gandolfo near Rome, where in recent weeks he has made it a practice to spend Tuesdays before returning to the Vatican.

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Israel is losing Americans (support)

Some interesting poll results in this article from Jewish Voice for Peace

Israel is losing Americans. - JVP

In 2022, 42% of American adults held an unfavorable view of Israel. That number has risen over 10 percentage points in the last three years, with 53% of adults now saying they hold somewhat or very unfavorable views of Israel.

This shift in public opinion is even more pronounced among young voters. Today, half of Republicans under 50 hold unfavorable views of Israel, up 15 percentage points from just 35% three years ago. Nearly three-fourths of Democrats under 50 hold unfavorable views of Israel.

Another poll conducted in March 2025 shows that less than half of Americans (46%) said they sympathize more with Israelis than with Palestinians — the lowest in 25 years. The percentage of Americans who sympathize more with Palestinians than Israelis has more than doubled in that time. Today, 40% of Americans believe that Israel is intentionally killing civilians in Gaza, up from just 22% in December 2023. A poll conducted in August showed 41% of Americans believe Israel is committing genocide in Gaza.

2 million students expected to participate in Bring Your Bible to School Day

An estimated 2 million students across the United States are expected to participate in Bring Your Bible to School Day, marking the long-running annual effort to encourage both students and adults to share scripture with those around them.

Focus on the Family’s annual Bring Your Bible to School Day is taking place on Thursday. Statistics compiled by the socially conservative advocacy organization show that nearly 1.3 million people representing over 70,000 schools participated in Bring Your Bible to School Day last year. More than 10,000 churches were involved.

In an interview with The Christian Post, Focus on the Family's Parenting and Youth Program Manager Emerson Collins projects even larger participation rates this year.

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Do you Agree with what Hillary says in this Video

I rarely agree with the Left leaning.
I sometimes agree with the Right leaning.

I agree with what Hillary says here...


Former Rep. Madison Cawthorn launches congressional comeback attempt in new state (FL)

He must miss being invited to the GOP sex and cocaine parties.

The former Republican congressman from North Carolina, who lost a primary amid numerous controversies in 2022, is running again for an open seat in Florida.

Former Republican Rep. Madison Cawthorn, who represented a North Carolina district for two years, is launching a congressional comeback bid in Florida a few years after he lost a primary amid a swirl of politically damaging headlines.

While Cawthorn has not released any public announcement or campaign launch video as of Thursday morning, paperwork filed with the Federal Election Campaign shows he filed to run for the seat being vacated by GOP Rep. Byron Donalds, a deeply Republican district in southwestern Florida that President Donald Trump carried by almost 30 points in 2024.

During his first bid for Congress, his Democratic opponent highlighted a social media post of Cawthorn discussing visiting Adolf Hitler's vacation home. Months later, his campaign website accused a criticof going "to work for non-white males, like Cory Booker, who aims to ruin white males running for office."

[and] a spate of controversies including brushes with the law, leaked videos and his own salacious claims about his congressional colleagues' sexual activity and drug use.

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The 2025 Government Shutdown Thread

Even though Trump controls all branches of the government, somehow it's the Dems' fault!

What to know about the government shutdown:

  • The federal government began to shut down overnight after Democrats and Republicans failed to come to an agreement to extend government funding ahead of the Oct. 1, 2025, deadline.
  • As many as 750,000 government workers could be furloughed, according to the Congressional Budget Office, and they will not be paid until Congress appropriates funding and the shutdown ends. Workers deemed to be essential will stay on the job, although they, too, will not be paid until Congress reaches a funding deal.

Monthly jobs numbers will not be released during shutdown​


According to the Labor Department's contingency plan, the September jobs numbers will not be released Friday, as scheduled.
"Economic data that are scheduled to be released during the lapse will not be released," the plan says, and the Bureau of Labor Statistics will suspend its operations during the shutdown. It will also not be conducting surveys for next month's report.

The jobs report is closely watched by investors and by the interest rate-setting Federal Reserve, which last month signaled it was monitoring the labor market for signs of weakness as hiring slowed in the last two months. In August, employers added 22,000 jobs, well short of the 80,000 jobs economists had expected.


So the economy is worsening under Trump (as usual), but at least we don't know exactly how much.

Elon Musk shares Erika Kirk's call to 'go to church'

Elon Musk, a man who once quipped that he's OK with going to Hell because more people will be there, is now encouraging his followers to attend church.

Musk, the billionaire founder of Tesla and SpaceX, and CEO of the social media platform X, reposted a message from Turning Point USA CEO Erika Kirk on Sunday, in which she encouraged people to “Go to church.” Musk, who has taken a prominent role in American politics and public discourse since the first assassination attempt on Trump's life, has identified himself as a “cultural Christian” in the past but has stopped short of fully embracing Christianity.

In a 2024 interview with Jordan Peterson, Musk explained, “While I’m not a particularly religious person, I do believe that the teachings of Jesus are good and wise and that there’s tremendous wisdom in turning the other cheek.” He also described himself as a “big believer in the principles of Christianity,” which he praised as “very good.”

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Treat your Enemies with Love

“Blessed are those who have been persecuted for the sake of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are you when people insult you and persecute you, and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me. Rejoice and be glad, for your reward in heaven is great; for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.” (Matthew 5:10-12 NASB1995)
“You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? If you greet only your brothers, what more are you doing than others? Do not even the Gentiles do the same? Therefore you are to be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.” (Matthew 5:43-48 NASB1995)

I live in the United States of America. It’s not looking good for my nation right now, from all outward appearances. We have a commander in chief who seems bent on military control over the people of our nation, and we have a government which, as of today, has shut down (for how long we do not know – could be permanently – always a possibility). More and more this is looking like a dictatorship, and less and less like a democracy. Nations are rising against nations, but our commander in chief appears to be rising against some of his own people who he regards as “the enemy within.”

Already we have had many pastors and parishioners of said “churches” turn against and persecute those who are holding on to the gospel taught by Jesus and by his New Testament apostles, calling us teachers of “works salvation,” and even “messengers of Satan,” because we teach the truth of the Scriptures and we have not succumb to the lies of the enemy. Already the enemy of our souls has manipulated the truth of the Scriptures, and the people, to conform them to the lies disguised as truth and to reject the truth as the lie, instead. And it appears to be getting worse as the days go by.

It does appear that severe persecution of the church, the true body of believers in Jesus Christ, is on its way to the USA, not that it is not already here, for it is, but it is not yet at the level that the Scriptures prophesy is coming in these last days before the return of Christ. But I do believe that hate for “Christians” has increased of late due to many people willfully misrepresenting Christianity and the gospel of our salvation and using Christianity as a tool to manipulate and control the masses, which has then turned many away and even to hating and despising the name “Christian.”

All of this, which is a present reality in my nation, and in the world as a whole, too, is the work of Satan to destroy the church and to destroy independent nations, and to bring us all under the rule of “The Beast” and the “New World Order.” We are already seeing the signs of the mark of the beast and of severe changes to the world as we know it, which appear to fit perfectly with Revelation 13. For they are already talking about some digital currency and having to have digital IDs in order to buy and sell, or in order to travel on airplanes. And it could happen very soon, from all appearances.

But don’t let their lies turn you one against another, especially Christian against Christian. Don’t believe everything a particular political party is selling you, and don’t believe the news media or the government heads or even most pastors, sad to say. For lies and liars and charlatans abound. As Christians be discerning people who pray for wisdom to know truth from lies. And be those who study the Scriptures in their full biblical context and who test what you hear against the Scriptures taught in the correct context. For many charlatans are twisting the truth to teach lies and to deny the truth.

And please do not succumb to this “hate your enemy” philosophy. Yes, if we are followers of Christ, we will be and are being persecuted for the sake of righteousness. And if you are being persecuted, according to the Scriptures, rejoice, for your reward is great in heaven. Then love your enemies and pray for them and do good to them and speak words to them which are for their spiritual good. Yes, refute the lies of the enemy, and speak the truth, but do so in love, and not in hate, and not in anger or violence. And then continue to obey God and to forsake sin and to live righteously in the power of God.

[Matthew 7:13-14,21-23; Luke 9:23-26; John 10:27-30; Acts 26:18; Romans 1:18-32; Romans 2:5-10; Romans 3:23; Romans 6:1-23; Romans 8:1-14; 1 Corinthians 10:1-22; Galatians 5:16-24; Ephesians 2:8-10; Ephesians 4:17-32; Ephesians 5:3-6; Titus 2:11-14; Hebrews 3:1-19; Hebrews 4:1-13; Hebrews 10:19-39; Hebrews 12:1-2; 1 Peter 2:24; 1 John 1:1-10; 1 John 2:3-6; 1 John 3:4-10; Revelation 2:1-29; Revelation 3:1-22]

As the Deer

By Martin J. Nystrom
Based off Psalm 42:1


As the deer panteth for the water
So my soul longeth after You
You alone are my heart's desire
And I long to worship You

You alone are my strength, my shield
To You alone may my spirit yield
You alone are my heart's desire
And I long to worship You

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Treat your Enemies with Love
An Original Work / October 1, 2025
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love

Fixated on this person

Hi, I think I'm starting to post too much and I'm sorry. Can anyone give me some comforting words that might soothe these feelings of mine? I don't feel like giving any more details about this right now but the pain I'm feeling is unreal. It's not an online person, it's real life.

Ethics of Proselytization

I could have put this in a Christians-only section, but I wanted this open to non-Christians.

Somewhat recently I had an experience at my work; for context I work at a popular retail warehouse store, I don't work for them but I do work in that warehouse, along with vendors of other companies who operate in the same space. A lot of people from different companies all operate within the same space, and naturally we interact with one another on a regular basis. As such I've built up friendly relationships with a lot of people who I interact with regularly.

Over several months I have interacted with a certain individual, it's always casual always friendly, but they work for a different company than I do. However several weeks ago this individual gave me a card, it had a pretty picture of sunflowers on it, and I didn't think much of it, I smiled, thanked them, made a comment about needing more sunshine in my life, that sort of thing. I slipped the card away and didn't really take a look at it until after work. Well, it was a Gospel tract disguised as a card.

Receiving religious material isn't the weirdest thing that's happened to me at my job, but usually it's customers leaving things on a cart, or slipped between food items to be found by a random passerby.

But this particular experience gave me pause and a thought: Has this individual's actions and behavior toward me, their demeaner, their friendliness (etc) been part of an attempt at proselytizing. I mean, I'm a Christian and the card/tract was generically Christian enough that I have no idea what denomination they are part of. I wasn't offended obviously, but it led me to wonder to what degree their interactions with me came from sincere comradery, or whether it is a kind of "missionary" tactic.

I may not have thought this except that, growing up in a particular kind of Christian environment, missionary-friendship and missionary-relationships were considered a valid "tactic" at trying to make converts. So that background does mean that I am aware that this is something that exists. It's not part of my current religious practice, but it was in the background I was raised in.

And I guess here's the point: When I thought about this, I felt a kind of betrayal. As though this person had been insincere in their interactions with me, I felt like a target, or an objective--not a person. And again, I wasn't angry, I wasn't particularly offended, but I felt dehumanized--even if just slightly.

As I was thinking about all of this again this evening, I wanted to open up this topic more broadly. Because I have a feeling many people--especially people outside of my religion--know exactly the feelings I felt, and I thought this could be a good topic of discussion. And ideally, a way for Christians like me to learn more, take feedback, and consider the ethics of religious outreach.

A secondary thought I had in all this: In some ways I feel like I would prefer a total stranger leaving a tract or pamphlet than someone who has been regularly interacting with me. There is a sense in which now I question and doubt the sincerity in friendliness of this person that I didn't before. And that's kind of an awful feeling to have. I'm not angry with them, or offended, but I now doubt their authenticity toward me. And I feel like this experience I had might provide me with a slight amount of insight and empathy with those who experience this more regularly.

-CryptoLutheran

My Recap of the New York City - US Open Outreach

Hi, y'all! Just wanted to share this video I made about my experience over Labor Day weekend in New York City sharing and preaching the Gospel around different areas of the city and at the U.S. Open. Hope it's an encouragement to you!
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Attitudes towards Tertullian and Origen

What are the Orthodox Church's stance on Tertullian and Origen?

I know neither one are considered Saints by any Christian Church (with the exception of the Evangelical Church in Germany, which is a Lutheran, and Reformed Union for Origen).

Are their early writings still influential?

Even though I am not Orthodox, I am Catholic, I often see them quoted in many theology books and prayer books.

Thoughts?

Peace and blessings!

Fifteen Years of Insurrection "A bilateral confession"

Statement 1; The Seed of the Curse.​
One-night Tholms got into a desperate plea with an effigy in his reclusive mind, he was talking in his sleep.
Tholms; “If you can give me one good reason why I should trust you make it be tomorrow and I will see to it that I don’t curse myself.”
“Tomorrow you will get your wish, but it won’t be what you expect,” the effigy declared.
September 11th, 2001--
Statement 2; The Mystery of July 2002.​
Fast forward to July 27th, 2002, on up to 2012;
We all know what “Didn’t happen” on Dec 12th, 2012. But are you even aware of what did happen in Destin Florida on July 27th, 2002?
A young man identified as Tholms is frantically trying to brush of an uncontrollable raging smile in the aquarium parking lot, on a mission to place his hands on the skin of a dolphin somewhere in his endeavor. On this day, he had failed. And with that failure sparked a war so to speak.
This war lasted up to October 2013, But the hostage was not free, and the demon still had control. Then 2016 came and there was a shakeup.
Statement 3; The Year of Angels.​
It was a miracle in progress; There is a paradox, or does it make sense now? Douglas Adams just writes a jumbled-up pile in 1979 that happens to end up on movie screens in also his late year of 2001 just in time for the real-life event in 2002, where I eventually view the movie for the first time in 2004? But the astounding coincidence is that the numbers 67 and 42 just happened to have been chosen as well in a movie starring Eddy Murphy titled “Beverly Hills Cop” -- this innuendo goes on in a web like perfect circle, should I say?
Something had to be done about it. In the end I can concur with this one reality about the New Earth, aka Heaven, “Time traveling WILL be a thing”. Because I’ve seen this happen myself in real life, I know it will have to be done again. I almost threw out the factions within one day, if it weren’t for the right name in the right place, at the right time...
Statement 4; A Necessary Prodigy.​
Must I relive my past? A word from Nesher, the fourth guardian of the throne of heaven, “No, absolutely.” meaning; there’s no such thing as a coincidence. But when the eagle said, “Let go of your problems and let God act first.” He wasn’t talking about the event that happened on November 8th. He was talking about the ‘main’ event, which we are all in the middle of right now. That’s why the clash with my curse had to be shut down.
However, God wasn’t angry at me, it was all more of an insurance policy, it wasn’t about Him much as it was the demon’s threat towards Big O. When I was led to lay my weapon down, the good Lord promised me guilt free protection. However; because of my current singleness condition, I cannot allow her “The single person responsible" to share in whatever rewards I may have been given in return. Pray this reward is not exclusive to Yeshuah...
Statement 5; Purge, “The Killer”.​
I didn’t want this thing to turn out the way it did but now at this moment it was too late, “and I was sure terrible things were in the making seeing how I got there that day.”
Steve
Columbia
Jackson
Strickland
Horne
Who cares why or how, just know that “I Know”, This was the limitless anger of a fiend that put many in its crosshairs, and all over the events that happened on July 27th, 2002. That’s nine whole individuals that lost their lives because of this evil fiend. Little wonder I had any fear at all when the angel I met was stood down by my sheer faith at the time.
Nesher also told me in a whisper one day, “Fear not brother, you are stronger than you think you are.”
Statement 6; My Mustard Seed.​
Something empowered me during these fifteen years, I’ve also managed “because of my experience” to learn the ability to counter mind control, which kept me saine all these years. Nothing lasts forever. The angel couldn’t rob me of the faith I had for God in the first place; he could only repair it to where it wasn’t so dangerous. Shifting from genocidal cataclysms to an actual conference with the Holy Ghost in a dream alongside Gabriel in the dining room of a large mountain castle.
Statement 7; The Vetting of Nesher.​
But this was not the end of Tholms’ journey. Need he remind himself that the angel met him in a dream on what other day than Patriot’s Day, could he be trusted?
God knew this had to be done. So, He had a fruit vine planted. In between the crevice of a steppingstone and the patio foundation. What else would’ve this reminded me of? Nesher’s Bible has been taken to church and flipped through many times. I almost ran away when the first signs of trouble started. If it weren't for the story of Balaam in the last days. But this was not the Lord’s will for me, I still will leave east one day, but I would lose her if I acted prematurely.
Statement 8; A Little Old Hawk Named Littlerock.
I still remember that day in June 2016. When I stared into her beautiful yellow eyes, I didn’t feel threatened at all. More likewise it felt more like an invitation to be with her for a while longer. But without a hunting or falconer’s license, I had to turn her down for the moment. However, when I remembered what I asked my dying hen in the bomb cyclone of 2015. I can only guess the intentions deep within the wild bird I always needed to help me fulfill my passion for birds one day.
Statement 9; POTHI​
I’m just a farseer, like a bird of prey, we have a lot in common. Hawks, eagles, owls, ospreys. I wonder if they ever feel the same prison I feel. It hurts me to know these walls that separate me from the Lord also separate me from the Spirit at the same time. The cats don’t even trust me. There's a lone hummingbird that greets me every year because I saved her life from the web in 2013. This year has seen some strange encounters with butterflies, four or five all coming to me, and one of the birds tried to chase one away from me it seemed. God gives what is needed at the right time, I guess.
Even though my war has ended, and the binds between me and planet have been dispelled, and God has me at his side once again, it’s only going to happen any moment now. God will lead me back home so I can complete this unfinished business and live the life of lives with Him forever, thank you Jesus for keeping Yourself on my mind...

Illegal immigrant wanted on gun charges heads Iowa's largest school district


Roberts, who entered the country in 1999 on a student visa, was given a final order of removal by an immigration judge in May 2024, according to DHS.

At the time of his arrest, he was “in possession of a loaded handgun, $3,000 in cash and a fixed blade hunting knife,” the agency said. It’s a violation of federal law to own a firearm and ammunition if an individual doesn’t have legal status in the US.

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