When will backsliding stop! This has to be the 7th time since I came to CHRIST!

I might have to get this book.

Göbekli Tepe is interesting for a lot of different reasons. They believe this was built in 9000BC. This would have been 5000 years before Adam and Eve. This seems to be an advanced structure compared to the Tower of Babel that we read about in our Bible. Still the art and archecture does fit in with the way man has developed and evolved. It is another piece in the puzzle.

People get upset because Science challenges their beliefs about the Bible. They never stop to think perhaps they need to be challenged to come to a better understanding. Because God clearly wants us to know what He has done. He give us tons of evidence to examine so we can know He is God and He created us.

Nothing in Science contradicts the Bible. God gives us science and the Bible and He is not even able to contradict Himself.

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Some people want to live
Within the sound of chapel bells
But I want to run a mission
A yard from the gates of hell

And with everyone you meet
I'll take them the gospel and share it well
And look around you as you hesitate
For another soul just fell, let's run to the battle
Run to the battle

Do you have your armor on?
We're in the middle of a raging war
We've been training for so long
Have we learned to use his sword?

We may not be ready but we serve a mighty lord
And he's made us more than conquerors
So what are you waiting for? Let's run to the battle
We got to run, run to the battle

He has trampled down the enemy
And has given us the victory
When we pray we learn to see that his army
We are marching on our knees

There'll be times when we grow weak
Let's keep our faith alive
Let your faces shine with glory
For he's helped us to survive

And in that final hour when you feel like you're ready to die
Will you hear the trumpet sound
Will you hear the warrior cry, run to the battle
We got to run, run to the battle

Some people want to live
Within the sound of chapel bells
But I want to run a mission
A yard from the gates of hell

And with everyone you meet
I'll take them the gospel and share it well
And look around you as you hesitate
For another soul just fell, let's run to the battle
Run to the battle

Now the context of this, which begins in Romans 9, and concludes with Romans 11, I believe, is of Paul’s concern for his own people, the Jews, that they would believe in Jesus Christ and so be saved from their sins and have eternal life with God in heaven. But this does not have to be limited to just the salvation of the Jews, but includes the salvation of all people, for the message is the same for either one. All people, Jew or Gentile by birth, need to believe in Jesus Christ to be saved and to have eternal life with God.

But in order for people to believe in Jesus Christ, and to be saved from their sins, they need to hear the message of the gospel taught to them, but the true gospel, not the altered and diluted one which has gained so much popularity today. They need to hear Jesus’ words which teach us that to come after him we must deny self, die daily to sin, and follow him in obedience to his commands. For if we hold on to our sinful lifestyles, we will lose our lives for eternity. But if we deny self, die to sin daily, and follow him (our Lord) in obedience to his commands, then we have eternal life in him.

But for those who have never heard of Jesus Christ, we should tell them that Jesus was and is God, the second person of our triune God – Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. He left his throne in heaven, and he came to earth, and he was born as a human baby to a human mother, but conceived of the Holy Spirit and not of man. So when he walked this earth he was fully God and fully human (God incarnate), but without sin.

And while he lived on this earth he performed many miracles. He raised the dead, gave sight to the blind, healed people’s infirmities, delivered people from demons, and miraculously fed thousands of people with little food. And he preached forgiveness of sins and eternal life with God for the truly repentant who were obedient to God and to his word. And he taught that not everyone who calls him, “Lord,” will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one DOING the will of God the Father who is in heaven.

Although he had some followers, and even though large crowds followed him wherever he went, he had many enemies, too. Those enemies were mainly the religious rulers among the Jews. They hated him because he claimed to be God, and he is God. And they hated him, too, because he pointed out to them their sins and their hypocrisy of religious performance. And they feared him because of his popularity among the people, and they were threatened by him for fear they would lose their own positions of power over the people.

So, they plotted his death. They falsely accused him, and they arranged for him to be arrested, and they were party to giving him a mock trial, and to having him beat beyond recognition, and to being mocked and spat upon. And they turned the masses against him and called for his crucifixion, although he was not guilty of doing anything wrong. And so he hung on a cross and died. But in his death he who knew no sin became sin for us so that when he died our sins died with him so that by faith in him we might die to sin and live with him to righteousness, for he was resurrected from death.

And notice with me here, when it says, “How beautiful are the feet of those who preach the good news!”, that this is followed by, “But they have not all obeyed the gospel.” For the gospel requires obedience. Obedience is part of believing faith. And this faith comes from God, is authored by Christ, is persuaded of God, and is gifted to us by God, and it is not of our own doing – not of the will nor of the flesh of man. And God persuades us as to his holiness and righteousness, and of our sinfulness, and of our need to repent of our sins and to follow him in obedience to his commands.

But many people who profess to know God are obstinate, rebellious, contrary, and disobedient to God and to the teachings of the Scriptures, with regard to Jesus Christ and his gospel message, whether Jew or Gentile by physical birth. And many who profess faith in Jesus Christ are believing in a false half-truth gospel which is not requiring death to sin and living to God and to his righteousness in obedience to his commands. And if they continue on that course, and they do not surrender their lives to Jesus Christ, they will not be saved from their sins nor have eternal life with God.

[Isaiah 53:1-12; Matt 7:21-23; Matt 26:26-29; Lu 9:23-26; Lu 17:25; Jn 1:1-36; Jn 6:35-58; Jn 8:24,58; Jn 10:27-33; Jn 20:28-29; Rom 5:8; Rom 6:1-23; Rom 8:1-14; Rom 9:5; 1 Co 6:9-10,19-20; 1 Co 11:23-32; 1 Co 15:1-8; 2 Co 5:15,21; Eph 4:17-24; Php 2:5-11; Col 2:9; Tit 2:11-14; Heb 1:8-9; Heb 2:14-15; Heb 4:15; 1 Pet 2:24; 2 Pet 1:1; 1 John 3:4-10]

Should I Not Preach Jesus

An Original Work / July 4, 2013
Based off 1 Corinthians 9:16-10:13

Woe to me should I not preach Jesus.
I’m compelled to preach the full gospel.
I make myself a slave to ev’ryone
To win their hearts to Christ.
All this I do for my Lord Jesus,
And for the sake of His Name;
Do it for the sake of His gospel,
So that I, its blessings gain.

Scripture notates the sins of others;
Written down for us as examples
To keep us from setting our hearts
On evil as did those of old.
Do not worship other gods of man;
Do not give your hearts to them;
Not partake in immorality.
Do not test your Lord and King.

So, be careful if you think you are
Standing firm in your faith in Jesus.
God has given his word to warn us,
So through faith we will not fall.
No temptation has o’ertaken you
Except what is commonplace.
God is faithful to not let you be
Tempted past what you can bear.
He gives the way of escape.

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Hi everyone.

Glad to see there's a Christian forum group that's still alive, some of the ones I used to haunt seem to be dying down...

Does anyone know if you're allow to promote local Christian groups here? And if so, which forum(s) should I post in? I'm trying to jumpstart a small social group called CIYA (Christian Introverted Young Adults), hence my username, and I'm trying to give some exposure to it. It's a group in the Central MI area.

Thank you, and may the Lord guide and keep you.

~ Lauren

Vice President Kamala Harris was accused Monday of using a “fake accent” in her remarks to teachers union members in Michigan.


Harris, speaking at a Detroit high school, appeared to alter her tone of voice in moments where she became particularly animated and when interacting with supporters in the crowd.


She made a similar speech to union workers in Pittsburgh.

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My God will keep me justified.

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Or is there a period where God no longer loves me? Im just curious.

Servant of God Sealed

Rev 7:3 Saying, hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.

Rev 7:3a Saying (participating authority), Hurt (damage) not the (tribulation) earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, Rev 4:6-8, 6:1, 3, 5, 7, Rev 7:1, 2

Power given to the Four Angels

Rev 7:1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. Rev 7:2 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,

Sealing the Servants of God

Rev 7:3b till we (righteous angels) have sealed the servants (Rev 7:4-8, 14:1-5, 144,000 Virgin Jew Men) of our God in their foreheads.

Servants of the Living God

The 5th Trumpet: Rev 9:4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.

144,000 Servants of God

Rev 7:4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed a hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.

Rev 7:4 And I (John) heard the number of them (servants of God Rev 7:3) were sealed: and there were sealed a hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel. 144,000 Virgin Jew Men

Servants of the Living God

Isa 63:16 Doubtless you are our (Virgin Jew Men) father, though Abraham be ignorant of us, and Israel acknowledge us not: you, O Lord, are our father, our redeemer; your name is from everlasting.

Rev 7:4 continues

Rev 7:1-3 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. Rev 7:2 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea, Rev 7:3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.

Rev 14:1 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him a hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads. Rev 14:2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps: Rev 14:3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth. Rev 14:4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goes. These were redeemed from among men, being the first-fruits unto God and to the Lamb. Rev 14:5 And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.

My mother, aunt and sister are witches. They sometimes use spells to punish and hurt, and they certainly believe that psychic attack is a task thing.

Have any of you felt you might have been under psychic attack from a demon, or a person, even a witch!?

I would say that witchcraft and paganism are making a massive revival, and in a very open way.

Would you agree? Why do you think this is happening?

Even though the Bible says to kill witches, that seems a bit extreme to me..
But why kill? Why not just pray? Jesus cast out demons etc., but didn't kill them.

Are witches more dangerous and warrant killing?

How should modern Christians relate to Pitches and Pagans?

What about interfaith gatherings? Would you let witches into your church and pray and chant together?

Republicans are divided on fertility treatments such as IVF, with many hailing them as a boost to American families.​

Johnstown, United States:
Republican White House nominee Donald Trump sought Friday to contain the blast radius of a fierce backlash over his remarks publicly backing away from right-wing positions on reproductive rights.

The ex-president has been under fire from conservatives over an announcement that in a second term, he would ensure free in vitro fertilization (IVF) -- an expensive fertility procedure that many in the anti-abortion movement want to see curbed.

The rift widened as he hit out at his home state Florida's six-week abortion ban, calling it too restrictive and suggesting he planned to vote for an upcoming ballot measure that would make the procedure legal until a fetus becomes viable.

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Trump is getting scared. He's resorting to his fall back plan: sowing doubt in the election process. Shocking.

“It’s so crazy, that my poll numbers go up. Whoever heard you get indicted for interfering with a presidential election, where you have every right to do it, you get indicted, and your poll numbers go up. When people get indicted your poll numbers go down,” Trump said in an interview on Fox News’s “Life, Liberty and Levin.”

“Well, this is the worst case of election interference that anyone’s ever seen, certainly in our country,” Trump said during the Fox News interview. “They do this in Third World countries, they have some of it in South America, they don’t do it a lot, believe it or not. But they do it.”

I saw this and was honestly surprised.


He literally fled the scene as if the reporter told him there's a sniper on the roof with a rifle pointed at him.

For context, Walz was at a state fair (I think) being asked hard hitting questions like "How about this weather we're having?" and "What's your favorite color?" before a reporter asks him something and he flees the scene so quickly you'd think he was told he's been selected to fight overseas for his country.

The question wasn't exactly that difficult. It was asking him what he thought of the 6 hostages who died in Gaza recently?

Now, he could have done the political thing....he could have said he didn't have all the information at the time and would get back to the reporter once he did. He could have given just some blanket condemnation of terrorism. He could have said how he really felt and chosen a side on one of the many issues dividing the left because it appeals to various tribes that don't genuinely share values.

I thought tales of this man's cowardice were overblown.

Apparently not.

I bet you think this could never happen to you.

C. S. Lewis, in a book written over 80 years ago — The Screwtape Letters — talked about the dangers of letting politics become your religion. Lewis put the following words in the mouth of his professorial devil-uncle who was instructing a nephew on one way to wreck his human target:

“Let [your patient] begin by treating … Patriotism or Pacifism as part of his religion. Then let him, under the influence of partisan spirit, come to regard it as the most important part. Then quietly and gradually nurse him on to the stage at which the religion becomes merely part of the ‘cause,’ in which Christianity is valued chiefly because of the excellent arguments it can produce.”

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Think that could ever be you one day? Or even today?

I hope not because you’ll be miserable when it occurs. But sadly, at least on the surface, it seems to be happening a lot right now.

Too many professing Christians on both sides of the political aisle seem to be convinced that they’re in the midst of a human life-and-death, global-existential battle, and if the other side (God forbid!) wins, the result will be certain cataclysmic destruction on a national level. Sovereignty of God be, um, “darned.”

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Is Sunday Law Coming?

What follows is evidence of precursors pointing to a coming Sunday law.


Blue Laws

Encyclopedia Britannica records that blue laws were enacted to encourage Sabbath observance—but on Sunday. Sunday isn't the Sabbath. It never has been.

In the United States blue laws are still being enforced. My home state of Ohio restricts the sale of certain items on Sundays, like alcohol. It has been that way since I can remember (in my lifetime of 53 years so far).


The Pandemic

During the pandemic some countries enacted Sunday rest mandates and curfews. Some of which may still be in place. The mandates that were implemented during this time shows us how quickly things can change.


Project 2025

Full disclosure, I consider myself to be a conservative. As a former actively political conservative, I would've gotten behind organized party action to forward conservatism. As a Seventh-day Adventist and a Bible believing Christian, I can't get behind the implementation of a so-called Sabbath day of rest—on Sunday, no less.

What's the problem?

• They've already made it clear that it will be exclusionary to seventh-day Sabbath keepers.
• They're essentially looking to mandate a day of rest.

European Parliament

Nine members of European Parliament have expressed their support for Sunday rest initiatives.

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Green Sabbath Project

The Green Sabbath is an initiative to have a Sabbath day of rest or "weekly earth day" (day unspecified) for the earth to recover.

Welcome to the Green Sabbath Project! Our main focus is education and advocacy. Our mission is to spark a mass movement of observance of a weekly day of rest -- shabbat, sabbath, a green sabbath or a weekly earth day -- on which impact on the environment is minimized as much as possible.

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Laudato Si

In Laudato Si, Pope Francis calls for a Sunday rest over the Sabbath, and associates it with the common good and the climate.

On Sunday, our participation in the Eucharist has special importance. Sunday, like the Jewish Sabbath, is meant to be a day which heals our relationships with God, with ourselves, with others and with the world. Sunday is the day of the Resurrection, the “first day” of the new creation, whose first fruits are the Lord’s risen humanity, the pledge of the final transfiguration of all created reality. It also proclaims “man’s eternal rest in God”. [168]

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Footnote 168 points to the Catechism of the Catholic Church 2175:

2175 Sunday is expressly distinguished from the sabbath which it follows chronologically every week; for Christians its ceremonial observance replaces that of the sabbath. In Christ's Passover, Sunday fulfills the spiritual truth of the Jewish sabbath and announces man's eternal rest in God. For worship under the Law prepared for the mystery of Christ, and what was done there prefigured some aspects of Christ: Those who lived according to the old order of things have come to a new hope, no longer keeping the sabbath, but the Lord's Day, in which our life is blessed by him and by his death.

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Should Christians Be Concerned?

Naturally, seventh-day Sabbath keeping Christians are concerned, but should Sunday keep Christians be concerned?

In my mind I imagine the average Christian looks at all of these things as beneficial to the Christian; i.e. not a problem at all. After all, most Christians embrace Sunday, so why not be in support of it?

In the least, the mandating of a day of rest enjoins church and state. What happens when church and state unite? Persecution and death. That should scare any Christian.

Will these initiatives, pushing for Sunday rest, become Sunday law?

Vice President Kamala Harris is campaigning on what she characterizes as a record of a tough former prosecutor. But a White House office she has "overseen" may have focused less on gun crimes and more on targeting a legal gun manufacturer.

"The American people should be very concerned that, rather than prosecuting criminals, the Biden-Harris White House is colluding with anti-Second Amendment groups, and rather than responding to serious congressional requests with transparency, the White House is choosing to not comply with our request," Rep. James Comer, R-Ky., told Fox News Digital.

Isaiah addressed a human king in Chapter 14:

4 you will take up this taunt against the king of Babylon:

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Ambiguously, the address implicated Satan:

12 “How you are fallen from heaven, O Day Star, son of Dawn! How you are cut down to the ground, you who laid the nations low! 13 You said in your heart, “I will ascend to the heavens; I will raise my throne above the stars of God; I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly, on the utmost heights of Mount Zaphon. 14 I will ascend above the tops of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High.”

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That's crazy arrogance, conceit, and self-deception. It's delusional madness! It's crazy pride, totally illogical. In fact:

15 But you are brought down to the realm of the dead, to the depths of the pit.

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Jesus echoed this idea in Matthew 23:

12 For those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted.

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Before that final end, meanwhile, Satan is the ruler of this world.

Why did Satan divert from God and start a rebellion?

Pride. He thought he could oppose God by open force and be successful somehow. Many other angels joined his course.

When did he find out his ultimate end?

Isaiah was a bit ambiguous. Jesus said it more clearly in Matthew 25:

41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.' "

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Why would Satan knowingly lead himself to his own demise?

Once he had started the rebellion, there was no remedy. He cannot repent and be forgiven. Perhaps he is hoping that when the end comes, God would just mercifully annihilate him. In any case, God is using him to test everyone.

I received a 2020 NASB in today's mail, people have said that it uses gender inclusive language and that appears to be upsetting to some readers who express a strong preference for the 1995 edition or for the LSG (Legacy Standard Bible). However, the LGS uses Yahweh in the Old Testament instead of "the LORD" and that causes some difficulty in reading aloud and, of course, some people do not like it. Since I have barely had time to unstick the pages I am wondering if any of you have used the 2020 NASB for a while and what you think of it?

for some time, since I first learned who she was, and that she defected from the Democrat side, I’ve thought that her status has a woman, as veteran, and someone who thinks independently, might possibly have made her an extremely compelling option.
it hurts my soul that our choice is between the two people that are running.

Supporters of Vice President Kamala Harris are rallying behind her campaign despite admitting that they can’t say where she stands on most big issues – as the Democratic nominee continues to flip-flop on major policies.


Harris, 59, has reversed her stances on energy issues, health care and illegal immigration since replacing President Biden at the top of the Democratic ticket, in an apparent effort to make herself more electable to moderates in key swing states.


Harris’ abandoned policy positions include her pledges to eliminate private health insurance, decriminalize illegal border crossings, ban fracking for oil and natural gas, and ban the sale of new gas-powered cars by 2035 — each of those made in 2019 when the then-California senator was seeking the Democratic presidential nomination.

By Padre Pio Press

Litany of Our Lady of sorrows
Lord, have mercy on us,
_____Christ, have mercy on us.
Lord, have mercy on us,
_____Christ, have mercy on us.

God the Father of Heaven,
_____have mercy on us.
God the Son, Redeemer of the world,
_____have mercy on us.
God the Holy Ghost,
_____have mercy on us.
Holy Trinity, One God,
_____have mercy on us.

Holy Mary,
_____pray for us.
Holy Mother of God,
_____pray for us.
Holy Virgin of virgins,
_____pray for us.
Mother crucified,
_____pray for us.
Sorrowful Mother,
_____pray for us.
Tearful Mother,
_____pray for us.
Afflicted Mother,
_____pray for us.
Forsaken Mother,
_____pray for us.
Desolate Mother,
_____pray for us.
Mother bereft of thy Child,
_____pray for us.
Mother transfixed with the sword,
_____pray for us.
Mother overwhelmed with grief,
_____pray for us.
Mother filled with anguish,
_____pray for us.
Mother crucified in heart,
_____pray for us.
Mother most sad,
_____pray for us.
Fountain of tears,
_____pray for us.
Vial of suffering,
_____pray for us.
Mirror of patience,
_____pray for us.
Rock of constancy,
_____pray for us.
Anchor of confidence,
_____pray for us.
Refuge of the forsaken,
_____pray for us.
Shield of the oppressed,
_____pray for us.
Subduer of the unbelieving,
_____pray for us.
Comfort of the afflicted,
_____pray for us.
Medicine of the sick,
_____pray for us.
Strength of the weak,
_____pray for us.
Harbour of the wretched,
_____pray for us.
Calmer of the tempests,
_____pray for us.
Resource of mourners,
_____pray for us.
Terror of the treacherous,
_____pray for us.
Treasure of the faithful,
_____pray for us.
Eye of the Prophets,
_____pray for us.
Staff of Apostles,
_____pray for us.
Crown of Martyrs,
_____pray for us.
Light of Confessors,
_____pray for us.
Pearl of Virgins,
_____pray for us.
Consolation of Widows,
_____pray for us.
Joy of all Saints,
_____pray for us.

Lamb of God, Who takest away the sins of the world,
_____spare us, O Jesus!
Lamb of God, Who takest away the sins of the world,
_____graciously hear us, O Jesus!
Lamb of God, Who takest away the sins of the world,
_____have mercy on us, O Jesus!

Look down upon us, deliver us, and save us from all trouble, in the power of Jesus Christ.
_____Amen.

Let us pray:
O God, in whose Passion, according to the prophecy of Simeon, a sword of grief pierced through the most sweet soul of Thy glorious Blessed Virgin Mother Mary: grant that we, who celebrate the memory of her Seven Sorrows, may obtain the happy effect of Thy Passion, Who lives and reigns world without end.
_____Amen.

Imprint, O Lady! Thy wounds upon my heart, that I may read therein sorrow and love – sorrow to endure every sorrow for Thee; love to despise every love for Thine.
_____Amen.

In honor of the Most Holy Heart of Mary.

I believe in God the Father Almighty,
Creator of Heaven and earth,
and in Jesus Christ, His only Son, our Lord
Who was conceived by the Holy Spirit,
born of the Virgin Mary,
suffered under Pontius Pilate,
was crucified, died, and was buried.
He descended into Hell; the third day He
arose again from the dead; He ascended into
Heaven and is seated at the right hand of God
the Father Almighty, from thence He shall come
to judge the living and the dead. I believe in the Holy Spirit,
the Holy Catholic Church, the Communion of Saints,
the forgiveness of sins, the resurrection of the body,
and life everlasting. Amen.

Hail, holy Queen, Mother of mercy; hail our life, our sweetness and our hope.
To thee do we cry, poor banished children of Eve. To thee do we send up our sighs,
mourning and weeping in this valley of tears. Turn then, most gracious Advocate,
thine eyes of mercy toward us. And after this our exile show unto us the blessed fruit
of thy womb, Jesus. O clement, O loving, O sweet Virgin Mary. Pray for us,
O holy Mother of God, that we may be made worthy of the promises of Christ.

(Hail Mary… Three Times)

Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.
Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is
the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.

Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners,
now, and at the hour of our death. Amen.

Started August 22nd. Lots of statements rated false and mostly false.