• Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.

  • CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.

Texas AG sues makers of Tylenol over hiding alleged links to autism

Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton sued the makers of Tylenol, Johnson & Johnson and Kenvue, claiming that they deceptively marketed the over-the-counter medication to pregnant women despite alleged links to autism and other disorders.

“Big Pharma betrayed America by profiting off of pain and pushing pills regardless of the risks," Paxton said in a statement on Tuesday. "These corporations lied for decades, knowingly endangering millions to line their pockets.

Bill Gates Says Climate Change ‘Will Not Lead to Humanity’s Demise’

Bill Gates, the Microsoft co-founder who has spent billions of his own money to raise the alarm about the dangers of climate change, is now pushing back against what he calls a “doomsday outlook” and appears to have shifted his stance on the risks posed by a warming planet.

he wrote. “People will be able to live and thrive in most places on Earth for the foreseeable future.”

It arrives a week before world leaders gather in Belém, Brazil, for the United Nations annual climate summit, known this year as COP30. Mr. Gates, who turned 70 on Tuesday and has attended the event in previous years, will not be participating.

Her name is obscure but she needs to be known.

Phillis Wheatley. Her actual name was and is not known.

Her story starts around the age of seven when she was just a child in Africa somewhere between what is now Senegal and Gambia, she was cruelly abducted. Like Joseph, God used the evil done to her for his glory.

A 7 year old child abducted and on a slave ship must have experienced unimaginable terror and the distress at knowing she will never see her mum again would have been suffering unknowable.

She was purchased by the Wheatley family and unusually for a servant girl they educated her in Latin and Greek.

In her own time she enjoyed writing poems glorifying God (I would highly reccomend reading them) and in a notable one she praises the revivalist preacher George Whitefield. She also kept in contact with many revivalist preachers.

Phillis Wheatley was finally emancipated in 1778 and she married a fellow freed slave, John Peters. Happily ever after? Shall I misquote Jeremiah 29:11?

No. Both Phillis and her husband suffered with ill health, low income and poor work, leading to the death of two of their infant children.

The situation above only worsened and her husband got sent to jail for debt, forcing her to work as a scully maid for a boarding house.

At the age of 31 Phillis died- alone, uncared for and 'reduced to a condition too loathsome to describe'. She was buried with her last child, who also died.

I can only imagine what was going through Phillis's mind on her deathbed- memories of her mum singing to her as a child in Africa? The day she was kidnapped at 7 by wicked slave traders? Her time in America? Her imprisoned husband? Her children who she lost at their young age? Her journey from Africa to living with a wealthy American family, to ultimately dying in poverty in a foreign land, never to return to Africa on this earth?

One thing we know on her death, despite the poor state of her body, she is now in eternal bliss, worshipping the God she loved so much and if the new earth mirrors this one (but in a perfected state) I can imagine her setting foot at the place where she was abducted, but now praising God for the glory of the new earth and the fact she will no longer suffer again.

Sodom's Restoration.

Hi there,

Can anyone shine light on the promise to restore Sodom.

They were totally destroyed as a people.

They were exceedingly wicked.

So when will the restoration occur ?

How do you see this happening ?

Comments greatly appreciated.

EZ 16
49 Behold, this was the guilt of your sister Sodom: she and her daughters had arrogance, plenty of food, and carefree ease, but she did not help the poor and needy.
50 So they were haughty and committed abominations before Me. Therefore I removed them when I saw it.
51 Furthermore, Samaria did not commit half of your sins, for you have multiplied your abominations more than they. So you have made your sisters appear innocent by all your abominations which you have committed.
52 Also, bear your disgrace in that you have made judgment favorable for your sisters. Because of your sins in which you acted more abominably than they, they are more in the right than you. Yes, be also ashamed and bear your disgrace, in that you made your sisters appear innocent.

53 “Nevertheless, I will restore their fortunes, the fortunes of Sodom and her daughters, the fortunes of Samaria and her daughters, and along with them your own fortunes,
54 so that you will bear your disgrace and feel ashamed for all that you have done when you become a consolation to them.
55 Your sisters, Sodom with her daughters and Samaria with her daughters, will return to their former state, and you with your daughters will also return to your former state.
  • Friendly
Reactions: DragonFox91

Sufferings Have a Purpose

“Therefore, since we have a great high priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our confession. For we do not have a high priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but One who has been tempted in all things as we are, yet without sin. Therefore let us draw near with confidence to the throne of grace, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help in time of need.” (Hebrews 4:14-16 NASB1995)

In this biblical context, “weaknesses” appear to be specifically targeted toward the subject of temptation to sin. But it can also refer to disease, infirmity, sickness, and physical ailments of the human body.

For example we read in 2 Corinthians 12 about Paul’s “thorn in the flesh,” which was not sin, for God will never refuse to remove sin from our lives, and God’s power is not perfected in sin. But even though Paul pleaded to the Lord to have the “thorn in the flesh” removed from his body, God’s answer was, “My grace is sufficient for you, for power is perfected in weakness.”

And Paul’s response to this was, “Most gladly, therefore, I will rather boast about my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ may dwell in me. Therefore I am well content with weaknesses, with insults, with distresses, with persecutions, with difficulties, for Christ’s sake; for when I am weak, then I am strong.” Amen! He had the right heart response to God.

And in Romans 8, in the context of Paul speaking of the sufferings of this present time, which are “not worthy to be compared with the glory that is to be revealed in us,” he stated, “But if we hope for what we do not see, with perseverance we wait eagerly for it,” in reference, I believe, to the return of our Lord when we will no longer be in these flesh bodies suffering physically and/or emotionally, for various reasons, but we will be with our Lord.

And then he said, “In the same way the Spirit also helps our weakness; for we do not know how to pray as we should, but the Spirit Himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words; and He who searches the hearts knows what the mind of the Spirit is, because He intercedes for the saints according to the will of God. And we know that God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose.” (Romans 8:26-28 NASB1995)

Paul also spoke in 1 Corinthians 2 of when he came to the church there, that he was with them “in weakness and in fear and in much trembling,” and his message and his preaching were not in “persuasive words of wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power, so that your faith would not rest on the wisdom of men, but on the power of God.” Since Paul did suffer much physical persecution and trials and tribulations, this could have included physical weakness as well as humbleness of mind and modesty in preaching.

And Jesus Christ himself knew what it was like to be physically weak when his enemies arranged for his arrest and trial and death on a cross on false charges, and they had him beaten and whipped beyond recognition, and then they nailed him to a cross to suffer and to die, as though he was a common criminal. But it was in the will of God that he should suffer and die on that cross, for in his death he put our sins to death with him so that, by faith in him, we can now die to sin and walk in obedience to our Lord.

[Luke 23:33-46; Romans 6:1-23; 1 Peter 2:24; 2 Corinthians 5:15,21; 1 Corinthians 6:19-20; Titus 2:11-14]

So, our time of need might be in a time of physical ailments and sufferings which have nothing to do with sin in our lives, but which God has allowed in our lives for his purposes: To produce within us endurance, godly character, hope, steadfastness, and spiritual maturity. To test the genuineness of our faith. To give opportunity for us to bear witness for Jesus Christ. That we might comfort others in their sufferings. To make us rely not on ourselves, but on God. Because God disciplines those he loves for our good that we may share in his holiness, that it might yield the fruit of righteousness.

[Luke 21:13; Romans 5:3-5; 2 Corinthians 1:3-11; 2 Corinthians 4:17; Hebrews 12:3-12; James 1:2-4; 1 Peter 1:6-7]

And this is very personal to me right now because of the sufferings that my Lord is allowing me to go through physically and emotionally, and for many of the same reasons as are listed above. For in the past 40 days the Lord has had me going through a series of tests to see what is going on inside of my body due to chest pain, chest pressure, and difficulty breathing, which has not ceased. And so far I have been diagnosed with a lung tumor (nodule), which is possibly cancerous, a breathing disorder where I am only breathing at 44% of 100% breathing capacity, heart failure, a possible cancerous brain tumor, and a breast nodule which also could be cancerous.

So more tests are needed. And I am tired physically and emotionally. But I am trusting the Lord that he has allowed all this in my life for my good and for his purposes, and that good will come out of this somehow. And so I rest in him, and I take this all one day and one step at a time, believing that God will work all this out for his purposes, and for his glory, and for my good.

His Tender Mercies

An Original Work / January 26, 2014
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love


Fear not! I’m with you.
Be not dismayed!
God watches o’er you.
Trust Him today.
He’ll lead and guide you;
Give you His aid.
He’ll love and keep you
With Him always.

Walk in His footsteps.
He’ll lead the way.
Trust in His love;
Believe that He cares.
He will not leave you.
Faithful He’ll be.
His tender mercies
Now you will see.

Fellowship with Him
Throughout the day.
Tell Him your heartaches.
He’ll heal always.
Rest in His comfort.
He is your friend.
Your faith He’ll strengthen,
True to the end.

Login to view embedded media
Sufferings Have a Purpose
An Original Work / October 27, 2025
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love

Trump third term


“I would love to do it: I have my best numbers ever,” the 79-year-old told reporters on Air Force One during a trip to Asia. Pressed on whether he was not ruling out a third term, he said, “Am I not ruling it out? I mean, you’ll have to tell me.”

Apart from him lying yet again about his numbers (they are in the toilet), how about we get a consensus on this?

Minnesota man arrested after allegedly offering $45,000 for the killing of Pam Bo

A judge released him on a personal recognizance but ordered him to wear a GPS monitor. . .
The suspect has a rap sheet that includes convictions for a July 2022 stalking case in Dakota County and a domestic battery charge in Polk County, Florida, in August 2016, the affidavit said. He also has a 2019 misdemeanor battery case out of Dakota County "which appears to have been reduced from a felony domestic assault by strangulation," the court document showed.

This is how the justice system works in Minnesota.
  • Wow
Reactions: Michie

Great guitarists

There has been ongoing debate about who is the best guitarist with the likes of Jimmy Hendrix, Eric Clapton, Jeff Beck, Jimmy Page, Stevie Ray Vaughan ect. Who do you think is the greatest guitarist. I think all the above are great each in their own way.

But I am also interested in other guitarist not as well known who may even be better. Even Youtubers or buskers. Whoever. I love the guitar and not just lead but also rythm, bass and all sorts of stringed instruments. The Banjo is great as well.

In recent years I came across Derek Trucks. He is actually the nephew of the late Butch Trucks, drummer for the Allman Brothers. So he grew up around the band and that era of blues and rock guitarist.

Derek plays the slide guitar which I love and think of Gilmor in classic songs like the Great Gig in the Sky. Its great because not only is the note played but all sorts of notes inbetween are bent into each other. Its almost like a violin and yet he still comes back to classic blues rock guitar.

Enjoy.

Login to view embedded media

Resisting the Holy Spirit.

Hi,

I grew up in a christian home, and my dad was a missionary, but I struggled a lot with christian faith and questions about predestination etc. and I took refuge in some sort of hypercalvinistic belief I think. This I believe made it difficult for me to experience conversion. There were times I recall an inability to yield to the Holy Spirit during meetings. I got into Gnostic spirituality too, and existentialism as well as reading modern theologians like Barth and Bultmann.

A good few years ago I was starting to come back to christianity, after having got into some errors about faith, and had begun to go to a church. At the same time I was reading a book by John Owen (17th century Puritan theologian). One Sunday at church all of a sudden I felt I came under a very intense pull, that seemed to be the Holy Spirit, but I wouldn't yield. It stayed with me all the way home, and yet still I wouldn't give in. It was a good few years ago, but I am not sure what keeps me from yielding. Up to that point I thought I was seeking again and yet when it came to it I wouldn't yield. I'm not sure why this is except it seems to suggest an unwillingness on my part to be right with God by faith in Christ?

What can cause friendships to crumble?

I have heard, if you want to keep your friends do not talk about religion or politics. I think there are a couple more but forgot which ones they were

I have texted friends about Jesus, this was during the first year I became a believer, I thought it was important to share. These were friends I would hang out with, really good friends who would offer to pay for your meal when you went to a restaurant with them. Now gone.

Now the only ones I talk to about the Bible are ones who already let me know they are Christians, but they don't seem interested in talking about religion or the Bible. And I asked and they do not go to Church.
  • Like
Reactions: RileyG

The Thing Most Sabbath Keepers Do not Talk About.

The Sabbath sits right there in the Ten Commandments. In fact, it has become the icon of the Law for many Sabbatarians. It is the punchline of many moralistic arguments and the centerpiece of Sabbatarian doctrine. To them, it is to be kept just as strictly as any of the other nine commandments. Yet the others carry natural, immediate consequences when violated. For example, if I kill someone, I may be killed myself or imprisoned for the rest of my life. If I covet my neighbor’s wife, I may end up in the hospital or the morgue. Sabbath breaking, however, has no such visible consequence. That creates a battleground where Christians often cross swords.

What fascinates me most is how people use the broad platitude “keep the Sabbath,” even to the point of wearing the label “Sabbath Keeper.” It certainly comes with the temptation to look down on those not “discerning enough” to agree with Sabbath keeping, and it can be an ego boost for those who enjoy a sense of spiritual superiority. Not all are like that, of course. There are many sincere Sabbath keepers who do so with humility and love, considering themselves no better than anyone else.

Yet for most who carry the label, the one thing they rarely address is the specifics of true Sabbath keeping. The moment one asks “How should it actually be practiced?” disagreements erupt. The Sabbath-keeping community is deeply divided over what is appropriate and what is not. It is far easier to remain in the comfort of the broad label than to open the can of worms and define the boundaries. Still, if Sabbath keeping is truly salvific, should the precise observance of it not be extremely important? One would hate to wear the label all their life only to discover they had been doing it wrong.

I could give examples, but for now, I will leave the worms in that can a little longer.

What would you do if you had an adult child who was completely given over to Sloth/Acedia?

What do you think would be the best way to help this person? They've never been especially faithful or devoted to Catholicism, they're very selfish/motivated by self satisfaction, and sloth permeates every aspect of their lives both spiritually and physically.

How do you help a person like that?

Zohran Mamdani’s Real-World Constraints


Yale’s Jeffrey Sonnenfeld and co-authors suggest that some of New York City mayoral candidate Zohram Mamdani’s socialism-inspired proposals, such as city-owned grocery stores, are likely to run into inefficiencies and unanticipated downsides. They write that capitalism can be a better engine of progress.



The mayor of the City of New York is the most powerful municipal official in the United States, and it isn’t even close. But to say this isn’t to say that the next mayor, likely Zohran Mamdani, will have the ability to unilaterally do some of the things he’s been promising on the campaign. There are very real structural, budgetary and legal limits on what the city’s chief executive can accomplish without the cooperation and support of other branches of city or state government.


These articles outline some of the challenges Zohran's policies will likely encounter (both logistically, and structurally)


Larry Summers (whose Economics chops and Democratic bona fides should speak for themselves)
- MIT & Harvard education (and was a travelling professor who ended up teaching at both Harvard and at economics departments in England, and was even president of Harvard for a few years)
- Served on the Economics Advisors council for Reagan (he's worked with people from both parties)
- Chief Economist for World Bank
- Under-secretary of the treasury for international affairs under Clinton
- 71st Secretary of the treasury
- Director of the National economic council under Obama

...sufficed to say, has a little bit of knowledge on the subject of economics having held positions for both teams, as well as having both academic and real-world high-level leadership positions in the field.


...had this to say
1761606377027.png

Even if (more likely "when") Momdani becomes NYC Mayor studies show the richest New Yorkers will stay


The first research comes from the Fiscal Policy Institute, which recently studied New York state tax filings from 2023 to determine how many millionaires left New York due to a personal income tax increase in 2021. They found that the top 1 percent of income earners (who make above $815,000) typically move out of the state less than any other income group.
when high earners leave New York, they don’t seem to do so for tax reasons. They tend to move to other comparatively high-tax states, like Connecticut, New Jersey, and California. The FPI finds that a full 72.9 percent of those with high incomes leaving New York went to high-tax states. the FPI finds that this pattern, in which high earners stay in New York or move to high-tax states, was “unaffected” by the 2021 tax increase. While New York gained 17,500 high-income households over the period of 2020-2022, it only lost 2,400 (of which the pandemic must be taken into consideration).

And that makes sense. When you can afford to live anywhere, cities offer the wealthy a great quality of life--a quality of life that will only improve when Momdani's changes improve the quality of life for everyone else.

Momdani, Bernie, and AOC held a huge rally last night. If only Momdani had been born in the US instead of Nigeria, he would be just about perfect.
  • Informative
Reactions: DaisyDay

‘I’m Saved. I Am Healed’—UFC Superstar Conor McGregor Expresses Newfound Faith in God

Ultimate Fighter Championship (UFC) superstar Conor McGregor shared yesterday that God has “saved” him.

During a Bare Knuckle Fighting Championship (BKFC) press conference in Italy on Thursday (Oct. 23), McGregor, who is a part owner of the promotion, was asked if there is a connection between his life’s journey and the spirit of BKFC.

A once simultaneous champion in both the Featherweight and Lightweight divisions of the UFC, McGregor hasn’t competed in the UFC octagon since 2021 when he broke his ankle during his rematch with Dustin Poirier at UFC 264.

McGregor, 37, created a persona of being one of the loudest, foulest, most belligerent fighters in the UFC. So it presumably came to the surprise of many fans when the “Notorious,” as he’s known by some, expressed he now lives by “God’s Word.”

Continued below.
  • Prayers
Reactions: Vambram

Dry and choking places: Why we live in a disenchanted world

In C. S. Lewis’s That Hideous Strength, the character Mark has a profound moral experience through which he becomes awakened to transcendence. In the wake of this, he looks at his entire life with fresh perspective: “[Mark] looked back on his life not with shame, but with a kind of disgust at its dreariness … He was aware, without even having to think of it, that it was he himself — nothing else in the whole universe — that had chosen the dust and broken bottles, the heap of old tin cans, the dry and choking places.”

In Lewis’s book, Mark and his wife personify modernity. His beliefs and attitudes represent many modern, secular people — in Lewis’s context as well as our own, a few generations later.

Mark’s experience of life as the “dry and choking places” provides us with an insightful window into modern people. Even if they aren’t consciously aware, people all around us are starving for transcendence and meaning. They live in the dry and choking places. Thus, many of our non-Christian friends and family members and coworkers experience spiritual need in terms of dreariness more than guilt (as Mark did). What does this mean for how we do evangelism and apologetics?

Disenchantment

Continued below.

USA Powerlifting discriminated by barring male from women's competition: Minnesota's top court

The Minnesota Supreme Court has ruled that USA Powerlifting discriminated against a trans-identified athlete by not letting him compete in its women's division.

In a decision last week, the state high court concluded that USAPL violated the Minnesota Human Rights Act by barring JayCee Cooper from competing in the women's division.

Minnesota Supreme Court Chief Justice Natalie Hudson, who was appointed by former Democratic vice presidential hopeful Gov. Tim Walz, authored the majority opinion.

The opinion rejects Cooper's claim of discrimination in business, but affirmed the lower court's claim of discrimination based on sexual orientation for public accommodation.

"We agree with Cooper that USA Powerlifting's policy is discriminatory on its face; there is therefore no genuine dispute that USA Powerlifting discriminated against Cooper because of her transgender status," wrote Hudson.

Continued below.

UMC church paints steps in rainbow colors in opposition to governor’s directive

A United Methodist church in Texas painted its front steps in rainbow colors, following Gov. Greg Abbott's directive to withhold funding from cities and counties that maintain LGBT rainbow crosswalks.

Oak Lawn United Methodist Church in Dallas, which calls itself an "inclusive" congregation, announced the decision in a statement. The steps were painted as a declaration of safety and dignity for LGBT individuals, not as a political protest, church leaders said.

“We are painting our front steps in the colors of the rainbow because silence is not love," the church wrote in a Facebook post. "We want every person who passes by to know: you are safe, you are seen, you are beloved by God."

Continued below.

Pray that Jesus Christ calms the Hurricane Melissa that is heading towards the Caribbean to the point where it becomes a mere gentle breeze:

Pray that Jesus Christ calms the Hurricane Melissa that is heading towards the Caribbean to the point where it becomes a mere gentle breeze:

What’s Happening to the Anglican Communion?

The already complex reality of global Anglicanism is becoming even more intricate.​


Earlier this month, a body known as GAFCON — the Global Fellowship of Confessing Anglicans — declared it was “now the Global Anglican Communion.”



The towers of Canterbury Cathedral, seat of the Archbishop of Canterbury, who is ‘a focus of unity’ of the Anglican Communion. Credit: © Mazur/cbcew.org.uk.

In the Oct. 16 declaration, entitled “The future has arrived,” the alliance of conservative Anglican church leaders said it had resolved to “reorder” the Anglican Communion, the world’s third-largest Christian communion after the Catholic Church and Eastern Orthodoxy.

“Today, GAFCON is leading the Global Anglican Communion,” said the statement signed by Rwandan Archbishop Laurent Mbanda, chairman of GAFCON’s Primates’ Council.

“As has been the case from the very beginning, we have not left the Anglican Communion; we are the Anglican Communion,” he added.

What are the roots of the Anglican Communion? Where does GAFCON fit in? And what does its new declaration mean?


A cartoon about the original 1867 Lambeth Conference in the magazine Punch. Public Domain.

A communion’s roots


Continued below.

  • Locked
No kings ... including Jesus?

Did you see that a lot of people don’t want Donald Trump to be the king of America?

On October 18th, there were a lot of “No Kings” rallies around the country, decrying what the protesters say are authoritarian actions by President Trump, whom they claim acts more like a king than a president. One protester in San Francisco held a sign saying, “Hey Trump nobody paid us to be here. We all hate you for free.”

Nice. You can read the Babylon Bee’s list of things accomplished by people like that in the No Kings demonstrations here.

The vast majority of protesters were democrats and leftists (I do believe there is a distinction between the two), and, of course, there were jabs from the right about the rallies, with some calling it “democrat sulk day.” Naturally, those supporting the “No Kings” rallies deny that and say they are simply against the despotic actions of any president who crosses the line of democracy.

Am I the only one calling baloney on that?

Continued below.
  • Agree
Reactions: Vambram

Many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of....

Peace in Christ.

We are to “awake” and arise out of the dead ones….out of the dead man-based churches… and Christ will give us light so that we may shine His glory to the people of the outside world who are sitting in deep darkness.

Without this arising from out of the dead man-based church gatherings, we remain in darkness and are not shining His light to the rest of the people of this earth.

Eph 5:14
(14) Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from (out of) the dead, and Christ shall give thee light.

Darkness is upon the faces (plural) of the deep as the people of the outside world have no form of Christ to see with their eyes and they are void….void of the knowledge of the glory of God. The man-based churches have no light to shine to them. They have all fallen short of the glory of the Lord.

Gen 1:1-4 KJV
(1) In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
(2) And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
(3) And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

(4) And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness

We are the “heavens” that have no light to shine to the people of the outside world who are in deep darkness. His people have no understanding. They have no knowledge to do good.

Jer 4:22-23 KJV
(22) For my people is foolish, they have not known me; they are sottish children, and they have none understanding: they are wise to do evil, but to do good they have no knowledge.

(23) I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light.

We must "ARISE" out of the dead man-based churches....departing from them. We must arise out of the dead man-based churches (where there is no shining light) so that Christ will give us His light. We can then show forth the glory of the LORD to the rest of the people of this earth who are in deep darkness.

Isa 60:1-3 KJV
(1) Arise, shine; for thy light is come, and the glory of the LORD is risen upon thee.

(2) For, behold, the darkness shall cover the earth, and gross darkness the people: but the LORD shall arise upon thee, and his glory shall be seen upon thee.

Shining His glory light will attract the saved among the people of the outside world.

(3) And the Gentiles shall come to thy light, and kings to the brightness of thy rising.

We must not be partakers with the man-based churches.

We are in darkness when we are “partakers with them”. " You were sometimes darkness" We are unclean when we sit together with them. Those who will continue to sit together with them (after hearing the Word of Truth) have no inheritance in the kingdom/reign of Christ and of God.

Eph 5:5-8 KJV
(5) For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.
(6) Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.
(7) Be not ye therefore partakers with them.

(8) For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light:

We who hear the Word of Truth and believe it are not to be unequally yoked together with the unbelievers of the man-based churches. They will also hear the Word of Truth but will not believe in it. They will not receive the love of the truth and be saved. What communion has light with darkness? It doesn’t. We can no longer sit together with them. This is not speaking about the people of the outside world but is speaking about people in their church gatherings.

2Co 6:14-18 KJV
(14) Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

(15) And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?

What agreement does the temple of God (we are the temple of God) have with “idols”…that is, images?

Their church handwritings of ordinances/dogmas are the “images” that they are keeping and serving (such as “statements of faith” ) and they are firmly established in their gatherings. They do not move from their places. What agreement should we have with them? None.

(16) And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

We are unclean when we sit together with them.

It is the true “fornication” that we are supposed to flee from. We are to hear His Holy (to be separate for sanctification) Commandment and do it. His Holy Commandment is to come out from among them and be separate and not be attached to the unclean.

(17) Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,
(18) And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

We must “clean escape” from the man-based churches as they are living in error.

2Pe 2:18-22 KJV
(18) For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error.

They will seek to bring those who have just escaped from them through “great swelling words of emptiness”. They will promise them liberty. They will promise the world to you to get you back.

(19) While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage.

We are to escape the pollutions of the “world” …the orderly arrangement of their church handwritings of ordinances/dogmas. Their whole “church” is built flimsily upon their handwritings of which they whitewash with “Lord, Lord” written all over them.

If we escape the pollutions…the defilement…of their gatherings which are centered around their written orderly arrangements through the “knowledge”…the full knowledge…of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are entangled again with them and overcome, the latter end is worse with us than the beginning.

(20) For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.

The way of righteousness is to escape from them completely. This is the way that leads to life…His manifest life in our mortal bodies.

Let us hear the Holy Commandment that is delivered to us to keep and not turn away from it. Let us not return back to the man-based churches no matter what. We must make a clean escape from them and have nothing to do with them anymore.

(21) For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
(22) But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.

This is the “way of truth” (departing from the man based churches ) that will be evil spoken of by the man-based churches who will continue to listen to their false teachers in them and speak evil…following their pernicious ways. MANY will follow after their false teachers and think that they will have "peace and safety" to behave in unrighteousness towards those who will depart from them.

2Pe 2:1-2 KJV
(1) But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

(2) And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.


continued in next post.

Filter

Forum statistics

Threads
5,878,432
Messages
65,417,674
Members
276,384
Latest member
CLEEB