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A Good Friday musing

After finishing reading my daily Lenten meditation: "None of us really knows what we are doing until the outer crucifix becomes the inner revelation of every act of human barbarism, war, torture, starvation, disease, abuse, oppression, injustice, and absurd lives "from the blood of Abel the Holy to the blood of Zechariah whom you killed (Mt 23:35.)...."

I turn on the news and hear Marco Rubio announcing that Trump is getting "impatient" and the US might "move on" from peace efforts...leaving 66 million 'lambs of God' in Ukraine vulnerable to slaughter (for did not Jesus say that we are the lambs and he the Good Shepherd?)


The horror of the news on the holiest day of the year leaves me transfixed with grief.

66 million lives to relieve a president's "impatience?"

Kurt Goedel's Loophole

Kurt Goedel, one of the most brilliant mathematicians of the 20th century, once expressed objections to the US Constitution, because he had fears that it contained a loophole that would allow for a dictatorship.

Unfortunately, we don't know the full details of his argument, merely that he saw internal contradictions in the US Constitution.

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Trump hails 'big progress' in Japan tariff talks

Trump hails 'big progress' in Japan tariff talks


  • Trump jumps in on preliminary talks with trade officials
  • Japan one of the first countries to start tariff negotiations
  • More than 75 countries seeking deals, Washington says
  • Exchange rates not part of talks, Tokyo's negotiator says
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Scientist Claims Jesus' Body Found in a Secret Chamber

I saw this news story the other day. I was going to put it in tansy's Pope thread as it seemed on the same level of idea. Will it be a real sign of the Second Coming? Or just make a new controversial thread?

You can do a news search and find articles like this:

Jesus Christ's body found? Scientist claims it is lying in a secret chamber under Great Pyramid

Jesus Christ's body and the Ark of the Covenant are hidden inside the Great Pyramid of Giza, a scientist has claimed. British anthropologist Dr Warner says that the two historical artefacts are placed within the "Cave of the Patriarchs", a secret chamber underneath the pyramid.​
Warner says that Christ's tomb and the Ark of the Covenant are kept inside a double-cave sealed off by a huge stone block. This cave is near one particular tunnel called the Southern Passageway. He says that the final stone block of the tunnel is not where the structure ends. Warner claims that his years of surveying have revealed the presence of man-made structures beyond this point.​

He is sure that something else is hidden under the pyramid, and he claims they are the sarcophagus of Jesus Christ and the legendary Ark of the Covenant. The latter is a sacred, gold-plated wooden chest that has been mentioned in Christianity and Judaism and is said to carry the Ten Commandments given to Moses by God.​

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I mainly find this interesting as Jesus had previously said in Matthew 24:26:

"Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not."​

Then the next thing that happens, in the next verse:

"For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.​

We already know the Ark of His Covenant is already in Heaven waiting to be revealed at the 7th Trumpet in Revelation 11:

"Then God's temple in heaven was opened, and the ark of His covenant was seen within His temple."​

And we already know Jesus' body is gone. He has risen. All we have here is His Shroud:


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Still it's sort of spooky they'd be coming out with an article of Jesus being in a "secret chamber", out in the desert, just before Easter Sunday.

Jesus is Lord.

Trump, Italian leader express confidence U.S.-E.U. trade deal will be reached

Trump, Italian leader express confidence U.S.-E.U. trade deal will be reached


Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni and President Donald Trump each expressed optimism Thursday that negotiations between the United States and the European Union would lead to a trade deal before the end of Trump’s 90-day pause on some tariffs.

Good Friday

What does Jesus’s sacrifice mean?
The disciples must have wondered that—probably more than once—and so, in his own way, did Paul, chasing after them before he ever joined them.

These days, the word sacrifice gets used in all sorts of ways. Usually it means giving something up: something valuable, in order to help someone else. Or maybe giving up one thing to gain another you value more. Sometimes it means suffering for others, a kind of altruism.

But that’s not quite what it meant originally—not in a religious sense.

The word sacrifice comes from the Latin sacrificium, a combination of sacer (holy, sacred) and facere (to do, to make). So at its root, it means “to make holy” or “to do a sacred act.” It’s about offering something to the divine—not just giving something up, but setting it apart, dedicating it. That’s the deeper, older idea.

And when we lose sight of that—when we think of sacrifice only in terms of transaction, loss, or exchange—I think we miss something. Maybe we miss both the joy and the challenge. Maybe even the truth.

So here’s a thought: what if God didn’t sacrifice His son in the way we often imagine? I don’t think that language makes sense within the framework of Jesus’s own religion, or that of his disciples. It’s more the language of chess players, businessmen, athletes.

What we’re actually told—famously, in John 3:16—is that God gave His son. Gave him to the world. And gave him for a purpose. That purpose was (and still is) to be our sacrifice to God. The Bible calls it the “propitiation” for our sins—a holy offering that bridges the distance between God and humanity. So that even though we die, we may live—abundantly.

It echoes, doesn’t it, the story of Abraham? The moment God provides the lamb to be offered in place of Isaac. Abraham didn’t need to offer his son after all. God provided the offering.

And I believe God still provides. I believe God suffers with us—every sorrow, every cry of anguish. That divine love is not distant from Jesus’s pain, or from the pain of anyone, anywhere. So when God gives His son, there must be, in some divine way, sorrow in the giving.

But that’s different from sacrificing him in the human sense. Jesus becomes our offering—if we accept it. If we believe. But what does that really mean? How do we make Jesus our offering?

Paul encouraged the early Christians to offer up their whole selves—not just in the physical sense, but their mortal, passing, ego-driven selves—as a kind of holy service. He called it their “reasonable” act of worship. In John’s Gospel, when the disciples asked Jesus, “What must we do to do the works God requires?” Jesus answered simply:
“The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”

Belief is a doing word. Even just saying it, quietly, is an action. So maybe there isn’t a hard divide between faith and works. Maybe they’re the same thing. Faith is works, and works is faith.

The surprising thing is that this sacrifice—this act of offering—often turns out not to be as painful as we fear. It might begin with a letting go of things we thought were protecting us: pride, fear, panic, shame. Sometimes what we’re giving up is the pain itself. And in exchange, we discover life. A more real life. Abundant life. Eternal life. A spiritual life that somehow feels more solid than the one we’re trying to hold together.

Of course, for some, the cost is much higher. Across parts of Africa, the Middle East, and Asia, many Christians have paid with their lives—killed for their faith by militant ideologies and oppressive regimes. Their offering is everything. By contrast, the sacrifices asked of us in the West may seem small. But they’re still real.

And I think this is what the cross means. That Jesus becomes our offering to God—not because God demanded it, but because God gave it. And we, in turn, follow him. Through the death of the self. Into a life more alive than the one we leave behind. Toward an ascension into something beyond our sight.
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Safe San Salvador

We're planning a mission trip to Guatemala (I won't be involved--have a sick husband and can't leave him to his own devices for two weeks.

And so tonight I told my friend, "Please fly through Guatemala City, not San Salvador. I'm so worried about everyone's safety in that country--after all, look what happens in Russia, where people are arrested for being journalists."
Our mission site is closer to San Salvador than Guatemala City.
So my friend tells me, "I'm sort of afraid, too, but ________________ traveled there with her dad recently and said crime has disappeared. The downside is that heavily armed police are on every single corner."
I don't know about you, but if the price of getting rid of gangs is turning a country into a repressive police state, I don't think it's worth it.
And the scariest thing is that that could be my hometown--or yours--in a year. They're not after criminals. They're after democracy.

Rubio suggests US will drop Ukraine-Russia peace efforts if no progress made in days


During his presidential campaign, Trump said he could force Russian President Vladimir Putin and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy to stop fighting within 24 hours of his return to the Oval Office on January 20. The US later extended that deadline until Trump's first 100 days in office, which ends on April 30. Now it looks like this may not be achieved at all.

King Solomon's 1000+ wives and concubines, etc

I was wondering if God had any problem with King Solomon having 700 wives of royal birth and 300 concubines... (1 Kings 11:3)

Verse 4 says
As Solomon grew older, his wives turned his heart toward other gods. He didn’t follow the Lord his God with all his heart. So he wasn’t like his father David.
I think in the Old Testament the only passage somewhat against polygamy is:
Deuteronomy 17:16-17
The king, moreover, must not acquire great numbers of horses for himself or make the people return to Egypt to get more of them, for the Lord has told you, “You are not to go back that way again.” He must not take many wives, or his heart will be led astray. He must not accumulate large amounts of silver and gold.
So King Solomon disobeyed that and his heart was led astray. I'm not sure if God punished Solomon for that though.

In the New Testament the Romans outlawed polygamy and I think that's the reason why our culture also did that. Though apparently Herod the Great had multiple wives "permitted under Jewish custom".

Note characters in the Old Testament with multiple wives include:
Abraham
David
Esau
Ezra
Gideon
Jacob
Moses
Saul

I was also wondering if all 700 really were of "royal birth".

Muslims Threaten to Sue Spain in Strasbourg Over Holy Week Processions, Claim They “Offend Islam.”


Before Trump took office the United States was moving in the same direction as the E.U.

Do you guys always go to Holy Thursday Mass?

I was planning to go until my wife revealed she wasn't, she just didn't want to do battle with the overcrowding with two kids. And honestly I was relieved not to go as well, since our parish only does one bilingual Mass. Last year I had to stand in the choir loft the whole time and park three blocks away in the rain because so many extra people show up.

It got me wondering how many folks miss Mass on Holy Thursday since it's not a Holy Day of Obligation.
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Discussion My Dad has come to doubt the validity of the gift of tongues and may become a cessationist. Here are some of his searches... help wanted.

Recently my dad has come to doubt his gift of tongues and is considering cessationism. He introduced me to Pentecostalism as a youth.

Here are some sites he sent me that I am responding to:
Is speaking or praying in tongues Biblical? | Verse By Verse Ministry International
Craig and Médine Keener - Thrive
What is Cessationism? Who Are Famous Cessationists?
What is Speaking in Tongues? A Biblical Analysis

I find Chat GPT says many of the cessationsists were either continuationists or undecided.

Does anyone here want to help my dad?

CT woman gets Homeland Security email to leave country despite being a US citizen

“It is time for you to leave the United States.” That’s the first sentence Lisa Anderson saw in an email she got from the Department of Homeland Security on Friday.

“The language seemed pretty threatening to whomever it might actually apply to,” she said.

Anderson, who’s a physician and lives in Cromwell, was born in Pennsylvania and is a U.S. citizen.

She now carries her passport on the advice of attorneys

This comes just days after two Boston immigration attorneys got the same email from DHS, despite being U.S. citizens themselves.
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US-Born Man Held by ICE, Arrested for Unenforceable Law

Here ya go, folks. It’s happened:


Juan Carlos Lopez-Gomez, a 20-year-old U.S. citizen, was being held in the Leon County Jail Thursday, charged with illegally entering Florida as an “unauthorized alien” — even as a supporter waved his U.S. birth certificate in court.​

The article goes on to state that he’s being held per the request of ICE and that the initial request was made under a law that a federal judge has temporarily barred the state from enforcing.

Does God give grace to everyone?

2T 1:

9 [God] saved us and called us to a holy calling, not because of our works but because of his own purpose and grace, which he gave us in Christ Jesus before the ages began,
Dr James White said:

Why would grace have to be given except to individuals who are in needs of grace?
  1. Grace, by definition, is unserved.
  2. Everyone is in needs of grace.
Therefore, God gives grace to everyone who knows Jesus' good news and those to don't.

Now, let's focus on saving grace which is the context of this verse.

This is where Christian salvation becomes a depersonalize concept
No, in fact, grace can be personalized.

when you simply cannot allow the idea that God would choose to give his grace, his undeserved grace,
Emphases added. White contradicted himself.

to rebel sinners in eternity past, but that is the direct assertion of 2 Timothy 1:9.
No, in fact, the string 'rebel sinners' does not even appear in 2T 1:9. It asserts that God gives his saving grace to us/believers.

Let proposition P1 = God gives saving grace to rebel sinners.

Does 2T 1:9 assert P1?

No, it neither assert nor deny P1.

Dr White was not thinking logically in terms of first-order logic. He jumped to a conclusion.

Whether we are a rebel sinners or not and whether we have heard of Jesus or not, we all need God's saving grace.

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sickness and me

I'm now on my second minor physical ailment since the first of the year, and this one is a doozy. The first day of it felt like my head was on fire. Ironically, dunking my head in cold water actually helped. I think my sinuses were just swollen and I don’t have the dreaded meningitis.

Still, I’m coughing pretty badly and my throat still feels like someone is dousing it with fire. Certain muscles are now sore from all the coughing. Please just appeal to the Throne of Grace on my behalf, for protection from further illnesses and wisdom about whether or not I should go to the doctor. I’m tired of being sick. Usually I’m strong and healthy.

Florida State University mass shooting on April 17th


Scientists find strongest evidence yet of life on an alien planet; Webb sees 3-sigma evidence for dimethyl sulfide

In a potential landmark discovery, scientists using the James Webb Space Telescope have obtained what they call the strongest signs yet of possible life beyond our solar system, detecting in an alien planet's atmosphere the chemical fingerprints of gases that on Earth are produced only by biological processes.

The two gases - dimethyl sulfide, or DMS, and dimethyl disulfide, or DMDS - involved in Webb's observations of the planet named K2-18 b are generated on Earth by living organisms, primarily microbial life such as marine phytoplankton - algae.

Scientists have hypothesized the existence of exoplanets called hycean worlds - covered by a liquid water ocean habitable by microorganisms and with a hydrogen-rich atmosphere.

Earlier observations by Webb, which was launched in 2021 and became operational in 2022, had identified methane and carbon dioxide in K2-18 b's atmosphere, the first time that carbon-based molecules were discovered in the atmosphere of an exoplanet in a star's habitable zone.

DMS and DMDS, both from the same chemical family, have been predicted as important exoplanet biosignatures. Webb found that one or the other, or possibly both, were present in the planet's atmosphere at a 99.7% confidence level, meaning there is still a 0.3% chance of the observation being a statistical fluke.
The gases were detected at atmospheric concentrations of more than 10 parts per million by volume.

"For reference, this is thousands of times higher than their concentrations in the Earth's atmosphere, and cannot be explained without biological activity based on existing knowledge," Madhusudhan said.

DHS demands 'detailed records' of student visa holders at Harvard

"Harvard bending the knee to antisemitism -- driven by its spineless leadership -- fuels a cesspool of extremist riots and threatens our national security," Noem said in a press release. "With anti-American, pro-Hamas ideology poisoning its campus and classrooms, Harvard's position as a top institution of higher learning is a distant memory. America demands more from universities entrusted with taxpayer dollars."
Harvard indeed should turn over the records of students linked to illegal and violent activities. And we need to stamp out racism in our universities.
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‘We are all afraid’: Murkowski says fear of retaliation from Trump administration is ‘real’

Sen. Lisa Murkowski said a fear of retaliation under President Donald Trump's administration is rising to levels she's not seen before, acknowledging this week that it is so pervasive that even the outspoken senator is "oftentimes very anxious" to speak up out of fear of recrimination.
The Alaska senator, who has been among Trump’s most prominent critics in the Republican Party, made the startling admission at a conference of nonprofit and tribal leaders in Anchorage on Monday. Addressing a question about how to respond to people who are afraid in the current political climate, Murkowski responded: “We are all afraid.”
“It’s quite a statement,” she continued after a long pause, in remarks first reported by the Anchorage Daily News. “We’re in a time and place where — I don’t know, I certainly have not — I have not been here before. And I’ll tell you, I’m oftentimes very anxious myself about using my voice because retaliation is real. And that’s not right. But that’s what you’ve asked me to do and so I’m going to use my voice to the best of my ability.” --POLITICO
There are no Alexei Navalnys in the GOP. None
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Draft Trump Budget for HHS leaks; calls for a one-third cut to spending; elimination of Head/Healthy Start, some rural health programs...

Inside Medicine scooped the story with a 60 page draft budget proposal.

Note that presidential budget requests are usually largely ignored by Congress; but with a spineless GOP majority, they may be more likely to do Trump's bidding. Also note this only covers discretionary spending.

Whether you think the US has a gun violence problem or a mental health problem -- programs that study or address both of them would be eliminated.

Additional coverage:
CNN
It also eliminates CDC’s global health center and programs focused on chronic disease prevention, and domestic HIV/AIDS prevention. While some of the agency’s work would be moved into new AHA centers, programs on gun violence, injury prevention, youth violence prevention, drowning, minority health and others would be eliminated entirely.

BioSpace

Citing leaked internal documents, the Post noted that the steep cuts will lower the National Institutes of Health’s budget by approximately 40% to $27 billion, down from $47 billion last year, while the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention will be left with $5.2 billion, down from $9.2 billion—a 44% reduction. Rural programs would be hit especially hard by the cuts, while the Head Start program, which offers childcare services for low-income families, would be terminated altogether.

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Sword68. - Intro

Greetings from newcomer Sword68. I’m 58 yoa, a born again practicing (imperfect) Christian; married (prior divorcee ) now to a wonderful lady for 5yrs.

I’ll be the first to admit I’m insecure in our relationship and have fears. I joined this group mainly for the good Christian interaction of shared experiences in navigating relationship issues; friendly discussion on various topics, and overall Christian fellowship!

El Salvador president vows to double size of prison holding US deportees


While the article is definitely slanted, the doubling of the size of the prison and the future idea to send more terrorists there is what I would like to see discussed. I think we should only send non-U.S. citizens there.
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