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Have you fallen out under the power of God?

Hi everyone, a question- have you ever fallen out under the power of God? (When God's power hits you and you fall over, and God ministers to you) This happens often at the church I go to, Grace Chapel in Elizabethtown, PA. However this has never happened to me, sometimes it happens to everyone in the entire room but me! Sometimes I am the only one left standing! Some people think there is something seriously wrong with me! Some people have laid their hands on me and prayed for it to happen and it still doesn't happen!

The One Big Beautiful Bill

The One, Big, Beautiful Bill Delivers on President Trump’s Priorities to Restore and Expand Trump-Era Growth and Relief for Families, Workers, and Small Businesses.
May 12, 2025

WASHINGTON, D.C. – On Tuesday, the Ways and Means Committee will markup “The One, Big, Beautiful Bill,” delivering on President Trump’s economic agenda and supporting pro-family, pro-worker tax provisions. The legislation builds on the success of the 2017 Trump tax cuts and carries out the very policies that America voted for, making the economy stronger, expanding tax relief for middle class and low-income Americans, and ushering in a new golden age of prosperity to benefit workers, families, farmers, and small businesses.
“This bill delivers on what Americans voted for with President Trump’s promise to put America First – with tax policies that reward hard work, bring jobs back home, increase opportunity, and rebuild the economy for the working class. It puts the interests of low-income, working families ahead of the wealthy by expanding tax relief to those who need it the most – including the President’s priorities of no tax on tips and overtime pay and additional relief for America’s seniors. Small businesses and family farmers will benefit from the certainty provided so they can invest in their futures and grow jobs.
“Under the economic policies of President Biden and Washington Democrats, the wealthy and well-connected benefitted from taxpayer handouts. The Ways and Means Republican tax bill ends special interest giveaways and will hold the woke elite and entities that benefit from the tax code accountable. It will halt the flow of taxpayer dollars to illegal immigrants and China.
“We have an opportunity and a responsibility to secure a brighter future for America’s workers, families, farmers, and small businesses. The legislation that the Ways and Means Committee has brought forward meets this historic moment,” said Ways and Means Chairman Jason Smith (MO-08).

Delivering An Economy that Works for Working Families
Pro-growth, pro-worker, pro-family, pro-small business policies that will make America’s economy stronger, deliver additional tax relief for working families, farmers, and small businesses, and replace bad tax policy with good tax policy.

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Video of Joe Biden Saying He Had Cancer in 2022 Picked Up by Critics


Biden's surprising announcement of his prostate cancer diagnosis has prompted conspiracy theorists to claim he was hiding his diagnosis from the public while in office. Many are pointing to this video as evidence for what they believe to be a cover up.

This conspiracy is part of a wider belief that the Biden administration was covering up for the President's physical and mental decline throughout his term. Whether or not he did have cancer in office has no impact on the current political landscape, as neither he nor his Vice President, Kamala Harris, are in power.

It seems kind of suspicious that a President with the best medical care and constant screenings would just "suddenly discover" they had stage 4 prostate cancer. Did Joe Biden actually tell the truth when he said that he "has" cancer in 2022? Note, he said he has cancer, not he had cancer implying his previously treated skin cancer? Jake Tapper is already on his campaign exposing how the administration and the media lied to cover up Joe's declining health. What do you think?
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Supreme Court will allow Trump administration to end TPS program for Venezuelans


No special treatment just because they are likely Democrat voters.

The Postwar Consensus is why evil is tolerated

I've been trying to distill the reigning postwar ideology down into simple explanations:


We have an alternative code of morality that has been allowed to flourish for the last 60+ years.

The only truly unpardonable sin of this new moral system is "racism". As long as you're not being "racist", then you're basically okay and will be tolerated.

The only true form of blasphemy is to use a particular racial slur. No other forms of blasphemy exist. You can say practically anything else. All sense of "true evil" has been loaded into this one particular part of speech.

For example:
Why is pornography mass produced and saturated throughout society?

Because pornographers aren't racists. A lot of us don't like pornography, but we accept it as part of a society that values peoples' freedom to do what they want.

Before the Postwar Consensus, pornography was recognized as an extreme source of immorality and was simply not openly tolerated in society.

For another example:
Why is violent crime allowed to run unchecked throughout our cities? Because a severe crackdown on violent crime would be racist.

Before the Postwar Consensus, the kind of violent crime we see happening daily would have been met with immediate and harsh retribution.

Crime is still bad, and frowned upon, but it is generally tolerated as a part of living in a pluralistic society. However, a racial "hate-crime" (i.e. white on black violence), would not be tolerated for a moment. All the institutional gears of society would immediately begin turning to bring the harshest punishment upon the perpetrator.


The explanation for this is that our moral 'lexicon' of good and evil has been uprooted from a more traditional, Biblical landscape, and replaced with the Postwar Consensus that came into being in 1945, was ascendant in the 1960's, but really became solidified as Totalitarian ideology in the 1990s.


Regarding Christianity.... known practicing homosexuals could sit comfortably in most churches in America. Tolerance would be preached. "Jesus ate with sinners"...

However, try having a known "racist" come into your church and you will suddenly find yourself in a church reminiscent of the middle ages, with the church leadership ready to immediately cast out and excommunicate the evildoer and blaspheming racist.


So, all manner of traditional concepts of evil are allowed to flourish openly because our senses for seeing and responding evil have been compressed into this one small area we call 'racism'.

Does anyone doubt this or question it? Please discuss.

Thanks for reading.



Also, there was an excellent video made related to this topic, by Jonathan Pageau at Symbolic World.

"Th World War 2 Consensus is Breaking Down"
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Coming home

Greetings! After years of searching and praying I am coming full circle in my head and in person to the Catholic Church. I still have personal issues due to my previous divorce and subsequent remarriage, but I can participate in the Mass and Catholic lifecycle events much as I did for nearly 10 years when I attended the RCC before crossing the Tiber. I may be able to iron out my marriage situation over time, but in the meantime this is about as good as I can do in that regard - and that's OK.

The election of Pope Leo XIV spurred this on after it being something that I have considered and prayed about for years. So, I no longer consider myself a lapsed Catholic, but rather a Catholic in an impaired situation. I know that there are many Catholics that ignore the teachings and just continue on in the church as if they were not in an impaired situation, but I don't want to do that.

So, as you will notice I have changed my faith tag to the appropriate one and am happy to be back.

Russia outlaws Amnesty International in latest crackdown on dissent and activists

The designation means the international human rights group must stop any work in Russia and it subjects those who cooperate with it or support it to prosecution.

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This is similar to the declaration that Navalny's political movement was extremist in nature. Curiously enough...

The rights group Amnesty International said it would be “one of the most serious blows for the rights to freedom of expression and association in Russia’s post-Soviet history.”
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You'd Better "Stop Believin'" Now

Presidential? Definitely not.
Questionable Sanity? Sure seems like it to me.
Trump's head superimposed on Journey members' bodies, performing the entire song, which he posted himself on Truth Video.
Lots of people (including me) love this inspirational song. I have it on my exercise playlist, and now it's ruined by this grotesque, unhinged, self-posted parody.

Is this what a president who has only listened to 12 briefings in four months as president doing when he should be working for us? Defacing music videos to pretend not only that he is the "star" but also that he "believes" in something other than himself.

There are a lot of Claims about Scientific Studies... The Methodologies and the Data Needs to be Careully Examined


The METHODOLOGY of scientifiec studies, should always be he center deciding the VALIDITY
of a acientific study.

Articles that CLAIM that some study thoses that a drug is dangerous, are VERY DIFFERENT
than examinations of the methdology of the studies themselves.

ALSO, (as with all studies dealing with behaviour that Christians should consider to be part of the
Christian moral-ethical code, should be be sorted out as MORAL-ETHICAL issues, and not simpley be dealt
with as if they were merely secular examinations of methodologies of some process.

That is, when Christians read articles claiming that "some data shows that some process is
harmful...", Christians must examine BOTH issues. Is the process compatible with the Christian faith?
Is the process compatible with the objective standards of scientific research?

Many of the studies that RFK proposes as "good", I assert, do not meet the rigor of
scientific studies. And,RFK, I assert, has made a buisiness of pushing shoddy studies that do
not meet modern scientific standards, but that emotionally appeal to one group or another.
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I think that it would be more important for Christians to focus on the METHODOLOGY OF RH STUDIES,
AND ON THE MORAL-ETHICAL CHRISTIAN DOCTRINES that the studies address, rather than on
a narrower look at ONLY the methodology or the theological importance of the study.

It looks like this might be it...

Our congregation may be facing serious financial problems, and it looks like we may have to make tough decisions.

The congregation was never well shepherded by the denomination. The people have always been ready to go deeper. But ideological capture and institutional inertia militate against that. And everything is dying. I do not forsee good times ahead in general for any form of institutional Christianity in the western world.

I am trying to discern what I do at church. Whether to leave, or offer a gift of presence.

I had an AI write up a hymn based on a philosophical theology I have been working on with ChatGPT and Gemini. It is trying to integrate my intuitions, varied religious experience and systems thinking into something greater, a deep mysticism of transformation.. I shared it with my pastor, she thought it was beautiful. It decenters traditional theology in favor of themes of Liberation Theology, anti-colonialism, post-humanism, and interspirituality. This particular hymn has been written to be expressed in as traditional Christian language as possible. But it contains a deeper meaning, that might speak into the current situation we are facing, prophetically:

Hymn of Earth and Spirit

(Verse 1)
God's wisdom breathes in greenest tree,
The Earth, our sacred ground.
Not just in Heav'n, but here we see,
Where life's deep pulse is found.
From rock and river, Wisdom flows,
A Mother's gentle hand,
The ancient peace the Spirit knows,
Across this living land.

(Verse 2)
The Christ, who walked this dusty Earth,
Showed fire within His heart.
Not soft acceptance, but rebirth,
To tear old ways apart.
He knew the broken, touched the low,
With love both fierce and true.
That sacred flame can in us glow,
To make all things anew.

(Verse 3)
No walls can hold what God outpours,
No simple creed confine.
Through human hearts, through nature's doors,
We touch the Light Divine.
The mystery deep, the Spirit vast,
Beyond what words can say.
That holy presence, meant to last,
Is with us on our way.

(Verse 4)
So let us rise with courage bold,
And seek this deeper truth.
A story waiting to unfold,
Renewing age and youth.
To heal the world, with hands and prayer,
And hear Creation's plea.
For God is here, beyond compare,
In all that is, and is to be.
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Jealousy and Selfish Ambition

“Who among you is wise and understanding? Let him show by his good behavior his deeds in the gentleness of wisdom. But if you have bitter jealousy and selfish ambition in your heart, do not be arrogant and so lie against the truth. This wisdom is not that which comes down from above, but is earthly, natural, demonic. For where jealousy and selfish ambition exist, there is disorder and every evil thing. But the wisdom from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, reasonable, full of mercy and good fruits, unwavering, without hypocrisy. And the seed whose fruit is righteousness is sown in peace by those who make peace.” (James 3:13-18 NASB1995)

There are many people in this world of ours who consider themselves to be wise because they are intelligent, well read, book smart people who know a lot of facts about a lot of subjects, and who are able to do complicated job assignments which require them to be very knowledgeable in certain areas, and because they can quote a lot of facts or statistics on multiple subjects, and/or because they have college or seminary degrees and thus they have diplomas. And some of them have titles of importance and of prestige.

But none of that in itself makes anyone wise. For wisdom has to do with good judgment and soundness of actions and decisions. It is the ability to apply the knowledge that we have in ways which are helpful and beneficial to ourselves and to others which will produce what is good and healthful, especially spiritually. A person who is wise evaluates a situation before just jumping in, and they consider carefully all the pros and cons before making a decision. A Christian should be one who prays to God to know what to do.

So there are a whole lot of very smart people in this world who are severely lacking in wisdom and in sound judgment, and this includes a whole lot of people who profess faith in Jesus Christ, too. And there were times in my own life when I was one of them, when I lacked good judgment and common sense and I was not seeking the counsel of God as I ought, but I was following the persuasion of humankind, instead. I’m not there now, but I won’t declare that I always make wise choices, but I believe I do, in practice.

So those who are wise are those who reveal their wisdom by their good (moral, honest, trustworthy) behavior. But if you are one who has bitter jealousy and selfish ambition in your heart, you are lacking in godly wisdom and good judgment, for you are following the wisdom of the flesh and of the devil and of the world, and you are not following the counsel and the wisdom of God. And you may be a Pharisee, too, who puts on a performance of all goodness outwardly while in reality you are deeply addicted to certain sins.

So, what causes someone to become bitter and jealous of others? Most of the religious rulers and/or people of influence in the temple of God in Jesus’ day were opposed to Jesus, and were bitter against him out of jealously of him due to his temporary popularity among the people and the fear that their own positions of power might be in jeopardy. They also did not like it that he claimed to be God (who he is) and that he confronted them in their sins, and that he exposed their hypocrisy and warned others about them.

Now people become bitter for many different reasons, but usually because they believe someone wronged them in some way, whether true or not. And so they may end up being bitter against all people of the same type, like all women or all men or all professing Christians or all people of any particular race or nationality or location, etc. And they may be bitter against all who are teaching death to sin and walks of obedience to God. And that is because they are also bitter against God who they believe did them wrong.

And bitterness will often lead to sinful rebellion against God, and against his commands, and the mistreatment of those who are speaking the truths of God and his word and/or all those who they believe did them wrong. And bitterness may be caused by selfish ambition because other people did not do things the way that they wanted them to do them, or other people did not give them all the praise and adoration they were hoping to receive, or if others said “No” to any evil that they may have tried to get them to do.

But the wisdom that comes from God is not going to result in selfish ambition and bitterness of heart and mind against God and against other humans. For godly wisdom will result in what is morally pure, upright, godly, honest, faithful, reasonable, full of mercy and good fruits, unwavering, and without hypocrisy, etc. And gentleness and the making of peace is never to involve the refusal to speak the truth in love to the rebellious sinner or to compromise our faith and convictions in order to be liked and approved of.

For gentleness does not speak lies to people to make them feel good, and it does not compromise the truth of the gospel in order to not offend people. Gentleness is reserved strength so that we are not overly harsh. But the Scriptures speak much about how we need to speak the truth in love to people and we need to exhort one another daily so that none of us will be led astray by the deceitfulness of sin nor taken captive by the lies of the deceitful workmen who use manipulative tactics to get people to believe lies.

For if making peace with others involves spiritual compromises and backing down on telling them the truth in order to not offend them with the truth of the gospel, then it is not the fruit of righteousness, but it is the fruit of the flesh and of the world. For Jesus said that he did not come to the world to make peace but to bring a sword and to turn even family members against one another? How so? Because he spoke the truth that many did not want to hear, and those who believed him were then persecuted for their faith.

[Matt 7:13-14,21-23; Matt 10:34-39; Lu 9:23-26; Jn 10:27-30; Ac 26:18; Rom 2:6-8; Rom 6:1-23; Rom 8:1-14; Rom 12:1-2; 1 Co 6:9-10,19-20; 1 Co 10:1-22; 2 Co 5:10,15,21; Gal 5:16-24; Gal 6:7-8; Eph 2:8-10; Eph 4:17-32; Eph 5:3-6; Col 1:21-23; Col 3:1-17; Tit 2:11-14; Heb 3:1-19; Heb 4:1-13; Heb 10:23-31; Heb 12:1-2; 1 Pet 2:24; 1 Jn 1:5-10; 1 Jn 2:3-6,15-17; 1 Jn 3:4-10]

How Long Till the Morning

Scripture: I Thessalonians 4:17
By C. E. Couchman


Consider the mornings of this mortal land,
Each a new beginning from the Maker’s hand.
While the storms may gather ‘gainst the evening sky,
The day breaks cloudless in the morning.

Rise up to the battle, for the skies dawn clear.
Let us gather courage while the foe draws near.
Though the night falls weary, saints of God, march on!
And He’ll raise our banner in the morning.

When the trumpet sounds to signal Heaven’s day,
Resurrection Morning when the dead shall wake,
What a glorious gath’ring when the Lord descends
And we rise to meet him in the morning.

How long, my Lord? Till we see the morning?
How long, O, my Lord, till we see your face?
O my Lord, guide us through our troubles
Till we rise above them in the morning.

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Jealousy and Selfish Ambition
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Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love

No Challenges

Giving God Thanksgiving not be a tragedy.

God blessing me with the Holy Spirit what I've done stands and is just making a way becoming me. -1 John 5:8 KJV

Jesus Christ making no challenges in life to trust and follow Jesus Christ as Saviour and Father. For example John 5:1-9KJV v14 Being Healed Shown and Known to any Opinion Glorifying God

Ecumenical Patriarch of Constantinople showing respect to Pope Leo XIV during Catholic Mass

Taylor Marshall tweeted this and I thought it was cool. Also may be a bit telling that some orthodox were kinda freaking out about it, if you look in the comments one orthobro is kinda speculating that Bartholomew “may be getting ready to kiss the ring and go into schism” which I took to mean the EP is showing signs of reuniting with Rome. Who knows for certain, though…


Le tweet:

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Fatal blast near Palm Springs fertility clinic 'act of terrorism' - FBI

A bomb explosion outside a California fertility clinic has killed one person and injured four others in an "intentional act of terrorism", FBI officials have said.

The blast happened just before 11:00 local time (19:00 BST) less than a mile from downtown Palm Springs, near several businesses including the American Reproductive Centers (ARC). The clinic said no-one from the facility was harmed.
The FBI later said it had "a person of interest" in its investigation, but officers were "not actively searching" for the suspect.

Michael Beaumier, a witness, said he was knocked off his bike by the blast. "It was that big of an explosion and I could hear windows shattering all around me," he said.

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Bessent defends Trump’s Qatari luxury jet gift: ‘French gave us the Statue of Liberty’

Treasury Department Secretary Scott Bessent defended the Trump administration’s decision to accept a $400 million luxury jet from the Qatari government, comparing it to the French gift of the Statue of Liberty in 1886 in a CNN interview Sunday morning.

“The French gave us the Statue of Liberty; the British gave us the Resolute Desk,” Bessent told CNN’s Jake Tapper. “I’m not sure they asked for anything in advance.”

Bessent pivoted to what he called the “more important airplane deal” that came of President Trump’s trip to the Middle East this week — the announcement that Qatar Airways will purchase 160 jets from Boeing.

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NBC: Gov. Abbott asks USDA to approve waiver banning junk food purchases with SNAP benefits


In his letter to U.S. Secretary of Agriculture Brooke Rollins on Wednesday, Abbott wrote that the program was created to increase access to nutritious food and that many SNAP purchases are for food without nutritional value.

The governor said he wanted to prohibit SNAP benefits from being used to buy sweetened drinks and candy so that Texans can "lead healthy and productive lives" and requested the waiver "to prohibit the purchase of unhealthy, highly processed food using Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) benefits."

Biden diagnosed with ‘aggressive form’ of prostate cancer


Former President Joe Biden was diagnosed with an “aggressive form” of prostate cancer, according to a statement from his personal office Sunday, and it has spread to his bones.

“Last week, President Joe Biden was seen for a new finding of a prostate nodule after experiencing increasing urinary symptoms. On Friday, he was diagnosed with prostate cancer, characterized by a Gleason score of 9 (Grade Group 5) with metastasis to the bone,” the statement said.

Do most people make it to heaven?

Q: I recently took a six-week theology class, and the priest teaching it was pretty emphatic that most don’t make it to heaven. First, we must be without mortal sin. So all those who forsake Mass or the Holy Sabbath would not be eligible. I have also heard other well-known priests state the same thing. One used the parable of the sower (the one with rocks, weeds, path and rich soil) to illustrate that per Jesus only 25% make it to Heaven. Yet often I hear priests say the opposite. What is your take on the parable?

A: To me, it seems that looking at this parable in terms of celestial statistics is a fairly unusual interpretation.

Hearing the ‘Good News’​



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Help with John 12:32

Universalism is gaining popularity and a pivotal verse is John 12:32.

ESV
And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all people to myself.

Can folks suggest what was meant by John in this verse please.

My thoughts are that He was prophesied to be the ultimate stumbling stone - one from whom no one could hide.

Judgement therefore amounts to Him weighing every mans response, in this life, to Himself (Jesus) witnessed to all men through the Gospel and/or through creation itself.

This is done through the work of the Holy Spirit who convicts the WORLD of sin, righteousness and judgement.

Your thoughts appreciated.

Biden Diagnosed with Prostrate Cancer

Joe Biden has been diagnosed with "an aggressive" form of prostrate cancer that has metastasized to his bones:

https://apnews.com/article/biden-cancer-prostate-be18c98abe341cd91277e1d3b75d5cd5

This follow a previous story of a small nodule found on Biden's prostrate:

Whats a nodule? Is it cancer? Small nodule found in Biden's prostate during exam

Any metastasized cancer is bad, period.

Given other issues circulating around Biden's health, I wonder why it wasn't found during his check-up in February last year.

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Roman Catholic Prayer to Mary - Is it scriptural?

"Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee. Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death. Amen."

1. Where is the example of someone saying it in Scripture?
2. When was it first used as an example of prayer.

Please - no disparaging remarks about our Roman Catholic family.

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