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Mark Cuban seems to endorse Elon Musk's idea of a new political party


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The former "Shark Tank" star and Cost Plus Drugs founder has previously expressed his dismay with both political parties. He once described himself as "socially centrist" while "very fiscally conservative."
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EGW's writings--an inspired guide, per SDA General Conference

This statement was voted by the General Conference Session on
June 11, 2022.

We believe that the writings of Ellen G White were inspired by the Holy Spirit and are Christ centered and Bible based. Rather than replacing Scripture, they uplift its normative character, safeguard the Church from “every wind of doctrine” (Eph 4:14), and offer an inspired guide to Bible passages without exhausting their meaning or preventing further study. They also help us to overcome the human tendency to accept from the Bible what we like and to distort or disregard what we do not like.​

Some other official statements, voted on by the General Conference session regarding Ellen White's writings.

Here is a statement of confidence from the 2015 GC session:

We reaffirm our conviction that her writings are divinely inspired, truly Christ-centered, and Bible-based. Rather than replacing the Bible, they uplift the normative character of Scripture and correct inaccurate interpretations of it derived from tradition, human reason, personal experience, and modern culture.​


From the 28 fundamental beliefs, also voted by the General Conference session:

The Gift of Prophecy​
The Scriptures testify that one of the gifts of the Holy Spirit is prophecy. This gift is an identifying mark of the remnant church and we believe it was manifested in the ministry of Ellen G. White. Her writings speak with prophetic authority and provide comfort, guidance, instruction, and correction to the church. They also make clear that the Bible is the standard by which all teaching and experience must be tested. (Num. 12:6; 2 Chron. 20:20; Amos 3:7; Joel 2:28, 29; Acts 2:14-21; 2 Tim. 3:16, 17; Heb. 1:1-3; Rev. 12:17; 19:10; 22:8, 9.)​

Palantir founder, Trump ally Peter Thiel talks Antichrist, coming 'totalitarian' system in resurfaced interview

'The Antichrist takes over by talking about Armageddon,' Thiel said in pre-election interview

In a newly-resurfaced interview, Silicon Valley entrepreneur and longtime ally of President Donald Trump, Peter Thiel, said he believes biblical concepts like the Antichrist and Armageddon stem from the potential of catastrophic technologies that could lead to a totalitarian one-world government.

Thiel, the co-founder of PayPal and the first outside investor in Facebook, stated in an October 2024 interview with Stanford University’s think-tank, the Hoover Institution, that the Antichrist figure from the book of Revelation could emerge by exploiting fears of apocalyptic destruction and offering a solution through global governance. He told “Uncommon Knowledge with Peter Robinson” this figure or system would present itself as a savior, promising "peace and safety" in a world of extreme stakes.

Pointing to 1 Thessalonians 5:3, Thiel, 57, said his “speculative thesis is that if the Antichrist were to come to power, it would be by talking about Armageddon all the time.” He added, “The slogan of the Antichrist is peace and safety, which is nothing wrong with peace and safety. But you have to sort of imagine that it resonates very differently in a world where the stakes are so absolute, where the stakes are so extreme, where the alternative to peace and safety is Armageddon and the destruction of all things."

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Trump Appoints College Grad Thomas Fugate to Head Terrorism Prevention Unit

But why? Perhaps because destroying government from the inside is the go-to tactic this time.


His career blastoff came quickly. A year after graduation, the 22-year-old with no apparent national security expertise is now a Department of Homeland Security official overseeing the government’s main hub for terrorism prevention, including an $18 million grant program intended to help communities combat violent extremism.​

The White House appointed Fugate, a former Trump campaign worker who interned at the hard-right Heritage Foundation, to a Homeland Security role that was expanded to include the Center for Prevention Programs and Partnerships. Known as CP3, the office has led nationwide efforts to prevent hate-fueled attacks, school shootings and other forms of targeted violence.​

Fugate’s appointment is the latest shock for an office that has been decimated since President Donald Trump returned to the White House and began remaking national security to give it a laser focus on immigration.​

Maybe why:
In these circles, two main theories have emerged to explain Fugate’s unusual ascent. One is that the Trump administration rewarded a Gen Z campaign worker with a resume-boosting title that comes with little real power because the office is in shambles.

The other is that the White House installed Fugate to oversee a pivot away from traditional counterterrorism lanes and to steer resources toward MAGA-friendly sheriffs and border security projects before eventually shuttering operations. In this scenario, Fugate was described as “a minder” and “a babysitter.”​

DOGE Developed Error-Prone AI Tool to “Munch” Veterans Affairs Contracts

"As the Trump administration prepared to cancel contracts at the Department of Veteran Affairs this year, officials turned to a software engineer with no health care or government experience to guide them. The engineer, working for the Department of Government Efficiency, quickly built an artificial intelligence tool to identify which services from private companies were not essential. He labeled those contracts “MUNCHABLE.”
The code, using outdated and inexpensive AI models, produced results with glaring mistakes. For instance, it hallucinated the size of contracts, frequently misreading them and inflating their value. It concluded more than a thousand were each worth $34 million, when in fact some were for as little as $35,000.
The DOGE AI tool flagged more than 2,000 contracts for “munching.” It’s unclear how many have been or are on track to be canceled — the Trump administration’s decisions on VA contracts have largely been a black box. The VA uses contractors for many reasons, including to support hospitals, research and other services aimed at caring for ailing veterans. VA officials have said they’ve killed nearly 600 contracts overall. Congressional Democrats have been pressing VA leaders for specific details of what’s been canceled without success.
We identified at least two dozen on the DOGE list that have been canceled so far. Among the canceled contracts was one to maintain a gene sequencing device used to develop better cancer treatments. Another was for blood sample analysis in support of a VA research project. Another was to provide additional tools to measure and improve the care nurses provide.' Propublica (a good read in it's entirety)
Fire the Inspector Generals who have a grasp on the department inner workings they police, and have some kid with no knowledge what so ever create some error prone code and kill contracts and fire Veterans.
These actions are behind the acclaimed 2Trillion, 1Trillion, 160B minus the cost of firing 135B = 25B savings.
They literally should start a agency to cover the cost of all the lawsuits by people wrongfully terminated.
They should call it Department Of Lawless Termination (DOLT).

Netanyahu cabinet arms criminals

The Netanayahu cabinet is distributing weapons to criminal gangs operating in the Gaza strip as to counter Hamas. The gang is even possibly related to terrorist group IS. So the current Isreali government has step even lower than it was.
Is that the type of ally the USA wants? One that arms former enemy IS?

Lieberman, who heads the Yisrael Beiteinu party, had told the public broadcaster, Kan, that Netanyahu had unilaterally approved the transfer of weapons to the Abu Shabab clan.

"The Israeli government is giving weapons to a group of criminals and felons, identified with the Islamic State group," Lieberman said.

Israel has been arming a criminal gang in the Gaza Strip as part of an effort to strengthen opposition to Hamas in the enclave, defense sources confirmed on Thursday following remarks on the matter by former defense minister Avigdor Liberman.
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu later confirmed the report, saying the move helped save Israeli soldiers’ lives.
Liberman, who heads the opposition Yisrael Beytenu party, told the Kan public broadcaster on Thursday morning that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had unilaterally approved the transfer of weapons to the Abu Shabab clan, an armed gang or militia that is opposed to Hamas’s rule in the Gaza Strip.


“The Israeli government is giving weapons to a group of criminals and felons, identified with Islamic State, at the direction of the prime minister,” Liberman charged. “To my knowledge, this did not go through approval by the cabinet.”
He claimed that Shin Bet chief Ronen Bar was aware of the decision to arm the group, “but I don’t know how much the IDF chief of staff was in on it.”

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How is it that the Catholic Church is evil?

To my Protestant brethren.


Here are the Pope’s monthly intentions for the month of June as published by the US conference of Catholic Bishops. These were written by Francis, but as far a I can tell they are not revised by Leo XIV. He will publish his in 2026.

June​

That the world might grow in compassion
Let us pray that each one of us might find consolation in a personal relationship with Jesus, and from his Heart, learn to have compassion on the world.



Given that Our Lord said a house divided against itself cannot stand, and Satan does not cast out Satan, what are your best arguments against the Catholic Church? What basis would you use to call the Catholic Church evil, assuming that you do so?

I only want to reach understanding and am not here to insult you or lord myself over you, I only want to know

To my Catholic and Orthodox brethren, I ask that you merely listen. If you wish to post in this thread, please message me directly before you do. This thread is to allow the case to be made and their evidence presented. We can evaluate it when fully heard

Global Walkie-Talkies

I just found something on Amazon, these are global walkie-talkies, they are walkie-talkies but have global range, they use satellite phone technology and you can talk between any locations in the entire world, these are only about $200 for 2 of them. These would be just the ticket for missionaries in extreme remote areas such as the amazon rainforest or african bush! Link is below if you want to have a look:

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Yehovah God will not send you to Hell!

It looks like many people believe Yahovah God is not a just god and sends people to Hell. Hell is a much misunderstood concept, but that is not for this thread. If there is justice in Eternity, then there must be punishment for crimes committed and it follows that obedient people will be blessed for following the commands Yehovah and Yashua have had recorded for us to live by. But God sends no one into the Lake of Fire (Eternal Torment). Yashua will be the Judge, being Perfect and a Just Judge, He will honor your choice and will not violate His Holy Instructions He has left for us to live by or to reject, and by doing so, choose to spend Eternity separated from Heaven and God. It is your choice!
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SPLC-linked report ties terms 'prayer warrior,' Greek word for 'church' to Christian nationalism

Report alleges Trump, supporters want to make America an 'explicitly Christian realm governed by divinely-inspired law

An offshoot group linked to the far-left Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) released a new report this week that links common Christian phrases like “prayer warrior” and “divinely appointed” to Christian nationalism.

The “Faith as a Weapon: Inside America’s Theocratic Vanguard” report from the Global Project Against Hate and Extremism (GPAHE) examines the rise of Christian nationalism, the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR), and Catholic integralism as interconnected movements reshaping American politics by merging religious zeal with political power. Linking various politicians and Christian leaders with the Capitol riot on Jan. 6, 2021, and the dominionist NAR theology, the report alleges such leaders are advocating for governance based on their interpretation of God’s law, and thereby pose a threat to constitutional religious freedom.

With a dramatic header image of a Christian cross planted in scorched and burning earth flanked by the American flag, “Faith as a Weapon” takes aim at Project 2025 and key figures like Russell Vought, Leonard Leo, and Paula White-Cain, whose influence on the Trump administration, the report states, results in “elevating particular religious perspectives while marginalizing others, including religious minorities, a large number of Christians, and secular Americans.”

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Spirit vision spiritual gift?

Hi everyone, something interesting- I know of 2 people at my church that have a very strong spiritual gift, apparently it has a name, it is called "sight" or "spirit vision". Both of these people see auras around people, they can tell if you are sick by your aura. IE if you have a blue glow around you that means something. Both of these people see the exact same thing without communicating with eachother! There may be even more believers out there that have this gift, someone at my other church may have it as well. Is there anyone on this forum that has this gift or knows someone else that does?

WHAT IS HEBREWS 6:2 REVELLING ?

# 1 OF THE DOCTRINE / DIDACHE , in the GENTIVE CASE , in the SINGULAR

# 2 OF BAPTISIMS / BAPISMA , in the Gentive Case , in the Plural

# 3 AND / TE , is a Disjuncative Particle

# 4 OF LAYING ON / EPITESIS , in tne Genitive Case , in te Signular

# 5 OF HANDS / CHEIR , in the Genitive Case , in the Plural

# 6 AND / TE , is a Particle Disjuncative

# 7 OF RESSURECTION / ANASTASIS , in the GENITIVE CASE , in the Singular

# 8 OF THE DEAD / NEKROS , in the GENITIVE CASE , in the Singular

# 9 AND / KAI , is a Conjuncation

# 10 JUDGMENT / KRIMA , in the Genitive Case , in the NEUTER in the Singular

So if the Hebrews are to go on to perfection , then BAPTISMS also have to GO !!

What say you ??

dan p

Musk says Trump is named in the Epstein files and that's why they haven't been released


Musk says Trump is named in the Epstein files and that's why they haven't been released.
Trump responded by threatening to cancel Musk's government contracts.
This love affair is over

Homage to Stalin

For some reason, the following story does not warm my heart, either ideally or politically. In fact, I see it as an oxymoron, or set of oxymorons.

According to the BBC:

"A brand new statue of the Soviet dictator Josef Stalin has been unveiled at a Metro station in Moscow. Meanwhile, an adviser to Russia’s President Putin recently argued that the Soviet Union in fact still exists, because of a procedural error in the process of dissolving it. More than three years on from Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine, the BBC’s Russia Editor Steve Rosenberg considers how Russia is trying to reshape its past to justify the present."

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Elon Musk Claims Donald Trump ‘Is in the Epstein Files’



In an explosive allegation, Elon Musk — amid a real-time escalating feud Thursday with President Trump — claimed that Trump is “in the Epstein files.”

Musk, in a post on his X social media platform, wrote, “Time to drop the really big bomb: @realDonaldTrump is in the Epstein files. That is the real reason they have not been made public. Have a nice day, DJT!

Businesses are raising prices after tariffs — even on unaffected goods

Businesses say they're raising prices on goods unaffected by tariffs, according to surveys and anecdotes released by the Federal Reserve on Wednesday.
Why it matters: This could be a sign that price hikes might be more widespread than expected, with concerns that some companies might use tariffs as cover to unnecessarily raise costs.
How it works: About 110 manufacturers and more than 200 service firms in the New York and New Jersey area were surveyed during the first week of May.
  • That's before tariffs on China were reduced from 145% to 30%, and before the boomerang court decisions that invalidated the tariffs before temporarily reinstating them.
  • 90% of manufacturers, and three-quarters of service firms, said they import some goods, and are exposed to higher tariffs.
By the numbers: About three-quarters of firms said they were fully or somewhat passing along tariff increases to customers.
  • About half of companies reported a decrease in their bottom line due to tariffs. Some have reduced headcount.
  • "A significant share" said they raised prices of goods and services unaffected by tariffs — a way to spread higher costs across inventory, or to take advantage of their customers' expectations that prices are rising --AXIOS
Keep in mind this is the same thing that actually happened the first Trump trade war.
Businesses, and yes those non tariff made in America businesses will not forgo an opportunity to raise prices in a tariff environment.
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Musk - Naive?

Usually anger, frustration, and disappointment can be attributed to a conflict between expectations and reality. There can be an amplification of an emotional response if one has made a significant investment in an expectation.

The intensity of reaction to the bill in congress that ignores most of the recommendations Musk made would seem understandable. Musk lost a large amount of money, and reputation trying to help the country. That this opportunity would be squandered should not have been a surprise. Consider the 1994 Republican surge. This also was squandered.

If Musk had been a Christian, he might have understood enough about human nature not to have such expectations that the theft that has been allowed would be stopped. If anyone knows him, they might recommend him to this 19 minute video tract about Christianity that would explain why humans do things that are wrong and what the real solution is.

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