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  • CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.

One Gregorian hymn I actually have a problem with :(

I wrote about Gregorian chants I like, and while I think that the album this comes from is outstanding, this instance is a rare occasion where this particular hymn is kind of unsettling to listen to. It is probably not supposed to be this way, but it is for me. The voices are very good and Gregorian Chant is actually my "refuge" from the secular music I used to listen to, and I wouldn't trade those places for anything, but why does this one kind of bother me to listen to?

It is not that I don't like the melody - it's just that unlike all the other GC hymns I have listened to, this one hurts to listen to.

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Should the Dept of Defense change it's name to Dept of War?

Should the Department of Defense Change its name to the Department of War?

  • Yes

    Votes: 2 15.4%
  • No

    Votes: 9 69.2%
  • Unsure

    Votes: 2 15.4%

Trump recently has suggested that the department of Defense change its name back to the Department of War. Do you like this name change?

New on a journey looking for friends and community

Hi to everyone!

I'm Lina, 21 and from Germany. I was baptized into Catholicism but raised without faith or religion. My family looks down upon believers and blasphemious jokes are common. Until two years ago I was atheistic and very sinnful and completly lost.
I felt empty and it took me a long time to recognize my spiritual longing as Gods way of revealing himself to me, so that I can let him into my heart. Reading the Bible and the inspiring works of medieval Christian Mystics opened up a new path for me. Here I am now, I lost my old friends and have a difficult time finding new ones. I took a vow of celibacy and I'm in a state of deep contrition and feel Gods mercy through my penitence for my past sins. While I strongly identify with Catholicism, my mystic and more fringe beliefs are not mainstream anymore.

I don't regret changing my life for a relationship with Christ and am looking for friendship and meaningful talks. I'm always learning and trying to grow while I'm still at the beginning of my journey from darkness into union with God.

American boys have become less supportive of gender equality (i.e. men and women should receive equal job opportunities and pay)

American boys have become less supportive of gender equality

A survey of 8th and 10th graders shows a sharp drop in the percent of boys who believe that women should have the same opportunities as men​

The long-running Monitoring the Future study has been surveying 8th and 10th graders since 1991, and shows a sharp drop in the proportion of 8th and 10th graders that believe in gender equality in the last five years.

In 2018, 84% of 8th and 10th grade boys agreed that women should have the same job opportunities as men. But in the last five years, the number dropped to 72%. The proportion of boys who completely agreed (as opposed to “mostly agree”) saw an even steeper drop, from 63% to 45%.

The share of boys agreeing that women deserve equal pay also fell from 87% in 2018 to 79% in 2023. The share who agreed completely fell from 72% to 57%.

[Many variables that you might think are correlated don't seem to be, or not very strongly -- use of social media, dad-in-the-home or not, video games (in fact, "it was the non-gamers who had the largest decreases in beliefs in gender equality since 2018.")]

However, one correlation stood out.

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[Oops maybe I shouldn't have cropped it so tightly, but the left edge of the graphs starts in 1990.]

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Why Does Space (Outer) Always Have To Be A Race

How Should The US Proceed In Going To Outer Space Again (For Settlement and Commercialization)

  • Collaborate with All Countries (Including China, India and Russia) for Outer Space Settlement

    Votes: 4 33.3%
  • Collaborate with Only Our Best Friends (European Space Agency, Japan and Canada) for Outer Space

    Votes: 4 33.3%
  • Go It Alone (Just the US of A)

    Votes: 1 8.3%
  • Space Settlement and Commercialization Should End (Why Ruin and Pollute Outer Space Too)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • I'm Too Busy Looking at Social Media to Care about Outer Space

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • There are Too Many Problems on Earth That Need Fixing Than Worrying About Outer Space

    Votes: 3 25.0%


Why is America back at trying to win the space race? We should have been miles ahead of everyone else. And I admit, we have been doing a good job of getting back into shape lately but we should have never let ourselves get slowed and flabby in the first place.


Back in the mid 90's, there was a call to all outer space enthusiasts - NASA should focus more on short manned flights near Earth (possibly more dangerous and expensive) or inexpensive unmanned scientific probes to the ends of the solar system. I was very much in favor of the more expensive and manned flights around Earth's neighborhood. Many manned space enthusiasts lost that election. Less expensive unmanned space probes won out. But they did bring a sense of awe to the space enthusiast with excellent video and pictures of our solar system and beyond. In the end, these unmanned probes may have kickstarted the desire for manned missions nowadays.

But instead of cutting costs by working more with other nations (China India, Japan and Russia), we decided to make a race of the situation like we did with the Soviet Union back in the 1960s and 1970s.
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Why is this forum so politically active?

I don't really engage in politics, for a number of reasons, but I wondered why the political sections under the Christian and non-believer sections are so active?

It's not an issue for me but, rather, a curiosity.

It would be more uplifting, I guess, to see the same level of activity in other areas of the forum but it seems politics dominate.

Hope that makes sense! God bless.

Meals on Wheels forced to shut down Portland location over crime, safety concerns


It is such a sad situation. The radical left in Portland and other like cities continue to take actions that hurt the poor.
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Abandoned wife supported by body of Christ. Bulled Christian boy dies. Persecuted Christian refugees fear forced return.

  • Sep. 04, 2025 | Benin​

    Abandoned by Husband, Supported by Body of Christ

    [6] prayers in [1] nation have been posted for Lenna.
    With the help of the global body of Christ, Lenna sells food staples to support herself and her children.
    Despite her suffering, a Christian woman is standing firm in her faith and discipling others as well. Lenna was raised as a Muslim in northern Benin. When she came to faith in Christ a few years ago, her Muslim husband abandoned her and her three children. Not long afterward, Lenna was in a motorcycle accident and lost her right hand and part of her arm. She then struggled to support herself and her children. Read More.
  • Sep. 04, 2025 | Indonesia​

    Bullied Christian Boy Dies

    [4] prayers in [1] nation have been posted for our youngest brothers and sisters.
    Children joyfully receive Bibles during a Christmas Care pack distribution in Indonesia.
    Second-grader Khristopel Butarbutar, who was part of a Christian tribal group on Indonesia's island of Sumatra, came home from school on May 19, 2025, injured and in pain. He had been beaten by five older Muslim boys in his school, the culmination of a week of bullying that included taunting him about his Christian faith. Khristopel continued to suffer and weaken physically, and his parents took him to the hospital, where he died on May 26. The autopsy showed the cause of death as a ruptured appendix, which may or may not have been the result of the beating, but the autopsy also showed internal bleeding and bruises that were consistent with blunt force trauma. Read More.
  • Sep. 04, 2025 | Turkey​

    Persecuted Christian Refugees Fear Forced Return

    [4] prayers in [1] nation have been posted for Christian refugees.
    Turkiye is increasingly requiring refugees to return to their home countries.
    Christian refugees in Türkiye face persecution and possibly death if they are forced out. Türkiye, which has the largest refugee population in the world, is actively working to reduce its numbers as roughly 3.5 million have fled there from neighboring countries. "Türkiye has been ramping up deportations in recent years," said a front-line worker. "But in the past few months, they significantly escalated the number of refugees they are sending back to their home countries." Some refugees are Christians who fled persecution. Read More.

Does "equality" even matter to Jesus?

I am curious to hear you guys' thoughts on the issue of "equality", and whether it even matters to Jesus. I've heard many on the political left argue that it does, though I've heard many others (usually on the political right!) say it doesn't matter, that it's all just "woke" and "Marxism"; and that the only justice important to Christians is that we'll see when Jesus returns.

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Trump calls Epstein disclosures battle ‘a Democrat hoax’

“So, this is a Democrat hoax that never ends. You know, it reminds me a little of the Kennedy situation,” Trump said in the Oval Office, referencing documents related to the assassination of former President Kennedy. “We gave them everything over and over again, more, and more and more. And nobody is ever satisfied. From what I understand, thousands of pages of documents have been given.

“But it’s really a Democrat hoax, because they’re trying to get people to talk about something that’s totally irrelevant to the success we’ve had as a nation since I’ve been president,” Trump added.

While delivering these comments, very real victims of Epstein were speaking in a press conference.

"....survivor Jess Michaels.

“For 27 years, I thought I was the only one that Jeffrey Epstein raped. I believed I was alone, and I was kept silent by the shame that was inside me and by the fear outside in the world,” she said. “But I wasn't the only one. None of us were. And what once kept us silent now fuels that fire and the power of our voices. We are not the footnotes in some infamous predator’s tabloid article. We are the experts and the subjects of this story. We are the proof that fear did not break us. And we don't just speak for ourselves, but for every survivor whose story is still unspoken…. This is what power looks like. Survivors united, voices joined, refusing to be dismissed. Know this: justice and accountability are not favors from the powerful. They are obligations, decades overdue. This moment began with Epstein's crimes, but it's going to be remembered for survivors demanding justice, demanding truth, demanding accountability, and we will not stop until survivor voices shape justice, transform culture, and define the future. We are no longer whispers. We are one powerful voice, too loud to ignore, and we will never be silenced again.”


The Language of God

A deeper relationship with God is a solo flight, the source of which comes from within, like a turning to see the one who is in the midst … it can (seem to) be at times a lonely place, being that few will understand where you are, having not tasted of it for themselves … it also requires your life, a laying down of the soul, to which there is a picking back up of again … a place where all your thoughts are gathered back into one …

God has a language (found in scripture and in the creation (as pastures we eat of, by being lead to find) that defines us, and the process found in our relationship with him, and to him (a by him, and for him), even to the point of a possession/ownership; which is something that cannot be measured by thought or words, being by nature, inexhaustible … into this inexhaustibleness is where the deeper relationship is found …

Pray for those affected by the death & injury caused by the funicular crash in Lisbon, Portugal

Pray for those affected by the death & injury caused by the funicular crash in Lisbon, Portugal:

Heavily armed ‘Angel of Death’ from Alabama charged with threatening SoCal church to "do the Lord's reaping"

An Alabama man who claimed to be Michael the Angel of Death has been charged with multiple felonies after he threatened to “do the Lord’s reaping” at a Catholic monastery in Orange County and then traveled to the church with a sizable cache of weapons, authorities said.

On Wednesday, Joshua Michael Richardson, 38, was charged with felony criminal threats and possession of six high-capacity gun magazines, brass knuckles and a sword, according to the Orange County district attorney’s office. Investigators also found knives, a stun gun, body armor, duct tape and rope in his truck.

On Aug. 19, St. Michael’s Abbey in Silverado Canyon received an email from Richardson in which he claimed to be the “rider of the pale horse,” the last of the four horsemen in the Book of Revelation, who personifies death. He also said he was Michael the Angel of Death, referencing the Archangel Michael, who is tasked with escorting souls to the afterlife, prosecutors said.

[Richardson traveled to SoCal, attended a church service, entered private areas of the church and was escorted out. Later picked up by Sheriffs.]

Richardson’s arrest took place just one day after a shooting at a Catholic school in Minneapolis killed two children and injured 21 others.

Not your typical archangel gear:

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Trump says Americans would like a dictatorship

When we read the following, must remember how Trump's NPD shapes what he says. When he says, "A lot of people are saying..." it means "I know I'm completely lying to your face right now - but I DARE you to call it a lie! Then I'll just sulk and call you a nasty person! You're not allowed to shatter my fragile ego by implying I don't know everything about everything."

Time Magazine: 26 August 2025

President Donald Trump said Monday that he thinks Americans may like a “dictator,” though he wouldn’t describe himself as one.​
“They say: ‘We don’t need him. Freedom, freedom, he’s a dictator, he’s a dictator,’” Trump told reporters at the Oval Office. “A lot of people are saying, ‘Maybe we like a dictator.’ I don’t like a dictator. I’m not a dictator. I’m a man with great common sense and a smart person.”​
Trump’s remarks came as he signed a raft of executive orders, including one in which he tasked Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth to lead the training of a specialized National Guard unit dedicated to “ensuring public safety” in Washington, D.C.

Seriously - is the guy OK?

I know he has NPD and lives to troll people - but this is a lot even for him.

Don't MAGA cringe with embarrassment when he opens his mouth?

When are the adults in the room going to say it's time for the 25th? It's just shameful now.
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Triumph of the Heart: Not Just a Movie, But a Mission

Jade Helm 2.0

With all the fuss made about Jade Helm 15 where troops where engaging in training exercises were predicted to be the first wave of a drive to get federal troops in American cities and FEMA death camps for Obama’s enemies.

Are there contemporary concerns being raised about ACTUAL federal troops in cities?

Is it all okay now but not okay then? If so, why so?

Has JWST discovered a primordial black hole and how many posts will it take before this thread is derailed?

Primordial black holes are theorized to have formed shortly after the Big Bang when quantum fluctuations in the inflaton field, the hypothetical quantum field which drives inflation resulting in a very brief period of exponential inflation of the universe. Where there are quantum fluctuations creating regions of over-density, these collapse after inflation due to gravity to form primordial black holes.

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If primordial black holes do exist it would favour the theory that supermassive black holes in the centre of galaxies were produced before the formation of the galaxy.

your Old men will have...

Here is another dream of the "to come situation type". it was short and I had it around 4 am. There was an exploded natural gas drilling site on fire shooting flames up above the conifer trees around the site. So it was a somewhat northern site like you would see in northern Canada or Northern Europe.... someone was saying something about it being a 200 million dollar site so the well on fire must have been only one of several in a project. One well site doesn't cost that much..
I had the feeling it was a disaster of some kind ,but maybe man made. And that was it. Lets see in the next year if something like that happens in a forested environment in the north somewhere on Earth.My dream of a hurricane moving north of the Gulf happened about a year after I had it and it was Helene that flooded the mountains in Tenn, and NC.

No Peace for The Wicked

“Thus says the Lord, your Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel,
‘I am the Lord your God, who teaches you to profit,
Who leads you in the way you should go.
If only you had paid attention to My commandments!
Then your well-being would have been like a river,
And your righteousness like the waves of the sea.’
‘There is no peace for the wicked,’ says the Lord.” (Isaiah 48:17-18,22 NASB1995)

Again, we will translate this into New Testament terms, under the New Covenant that God has with his people Israel, both Jew and Gentile by genuine biblical faith in Jesus Christ. But the context is largely concerning those who make professions of faith in Jesus Christ with their lips, but not in truth nor in righteousness. They are the stubborn, the strong-willed, the self-indulgent, the addicted to sinful behaviors who are obstinate and unwilling to repent of their sins, in truth, and to obey God with their lives.

But faith in Jesus Christ is not a “get-out-of-jail-free-card.” It is not forgiveness of all sins and the guarantee of heaven when you die based on a profession of Christ alone. And it is not carte blanche (complete freedom) to live however you please now that you think that all your sins are forgiven and that heaven is a guarantee for you. Biblical faith results in biblical repentance which results in changed lives living in submission and in surrender to the will of God in walks of obedience to his commands.

And by faith in Jesus Christ we enter into a spiritual marriage relationship with Christ as our husband, and with us as his bride. And he is also Lord (Owner-Master) of our lives who teaches us what is good for us, that which is for our benefit spiritually, morally, physically, emotionally, and mentally. And then he leads, guides, and directs us in the way that we should go, which is the way of moral purity, honesty, faithfulness, righteousness, godliness and obedience to his commands, no longer living in sin.

But sadly, not everyone who gives lip service to the Lord are those who are being led of the Spirit, who have died and who are dying to sin daily, and who are walking in obedience to our Lord’s commands, led by God, and empowered by God, by his grace. Many are those who are not listening to the Lord, some of whom fake their Christianity and who deny him by their sinful practices and by their refusal to obey him. And sadly, they will not inherit eternal life with God unless they repent of their sin and obey God.

For Jesus Christ taught that to come to him we must deny self, take up our cross daily (die daily to sin), and follow (obey) him. For if we hold on to living in sin and for self, we will lose our lives for eternity. But if we deny self, die daily to sin, by the Spirit, and we walk in obedience to our Lord and to his commands, in his power, then we have eternal life with God. For not everyone who calls him “Lord” will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one DOING (obeying) the will of God (see Luke 9:23-26; Matthew 7:21-23).

For by God-gifted faith in Jesus Christ, which is not of our own doing, we are crucified with Christ in death to sin and raised with Christ to walk in newness of life in him, no longer to live as slaves to sin but as slaves to righteousness in walks of obedience to God’s commands. We are no longer to permit sin to reign in our mortal bodies to make us obey its desires. For if sin is what we obey, it results in death. But if obedience to God is what we obey, it results in sanctification, and its end is eternal life with God (see Romans 6:1-23).

And we learn in 1 John 1-3 that if we claim that we have fellowship with God, but yet we walk in darkness (sin), we are liars. If we claim that we know God, but we do not obey his commandments, in practice, we are liars. For it is not the one who claims he is “in Christ” who is “in Christ,” but it is the one who has denied self, died with Christ to sin, and who is now walking in obedience to our Lord and to his commands, in practice, and no longer in sin. They have the hope and the promise of eternal life with God in heaven.

Walking in The Light

Based off 1 John 1-2
An Original Work / November 16, 2011
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love


When I lift up my voice, and
Sing praise unto God,
I will fellowship with my
Lord and Savior, King.
In Him there is no darkness.
He is in the light of truth.
If we walk in His light,
From sin He purifies.

If we repent of our sins,
He’ll forgive us now,
When we humble ourselves, and
Before Jesus bow.
The man who says, “I know Him,”
But does not obey His truth,
There is no truth in him.
In darkness still he’s found.

Do not love the world of sin,
For it is hell bound.
If you follow the world, you’ll
Not in Christ be found.
The world and its desires
Will not last; they’ll expire.
The one who does God’s will,
Receives eternal life.

See that what you have heard from
Christ remains in you.
Then, you’ll remain in Christ, and
In His Father, too.
This is what He promised us –
His eternal life with God.
So, continue in Him, and
You’ll receive a crown.

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No Peace for The Wicked
An Original Work / September 3, 2025
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love

When the 'real you' doesn't want to sin

"I need to stop doing it. After all, I am a Christian."

Do you ever find yourself feeling this way after becoming entangled in a particular sin? Deep down you hate that thing because you know it is unrighteous, but in moments of temptation and weakness, you go back to it.

First of all, thank God that the Lord places a holy hatred for sin within every one of His children. Just imagine if, rather than hating to sin, you relished sin and couldn't wait to engage in it over and over again. Thankfully, believers in Jesus want to live a different life, a holy life.

Born-again people are "a new creation" (2 Corinthians 5:17) who want to say "no" to temptation and sin. We desire to please Christ who now lives in us, and our body is "a temple of the Holy Spirit" (1 Corinthians 6:18).?

At the same time, a "basement room" sinful nature remains within your soul. Your old nature previously dominated your life, back when "you were dead in your transgressions and sins, in which you used to live when you followed the ways of the world" (Ephesians 2:2).

Your old nature is the old you, while the real you today is who you want to be as a follower of Christ. Your sinful nature was put to death when you were converted, (see Romans 6:6-8) but these sinful desires are still hanging around in the basement. And although somewhat dormant, these desires are extremely dangerous and spiritually toxic, especially when willfully pursued.

Continued below.https://www.christianpost.com/voices/when-the-real-you-doesnt-want-to-sin.html

What are Works of supererogation?

So, recently I've been reading Rev Hooker's 1888 edition of the first volume of his works
and in its preface/introduction, I came upon this point of "works of supererogation"
regarding his discourse with a Rev Hoo. What are "works of supererogation" and how
does it fit theologically?

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