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  • CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.

Is this a problem with time-travel?

Let`s say you can travel in time, make everything around you, travel in time, wouldn`t the surge of time, when it hits a person, notice it and resist the change? I mean, the soul, or mind, isn`t dead materie, so it`d notice the surge, and resist it, so perhaps, everything of materie around him or her changes, but the person itself, would resist the change, and stay the same, doesn`t that make time-travel, impossible? You`d en up in a different time perhaps, but you`d still be the same, if someone else initated time-travel? You`d notice the change, and resist it, by will alone?

How to identify a Full Preterist in Partial Preterist clothing in this section of the board.

Seems rather simple to me, how to do that. That's assuming that there are actually Full Preterists in Partial Preterist's clothing in this section of the board. Maybe there is, maybe there isn't. Any Preterist posting in this section of the board, where it's questionable as to whether they are Partial or Full, simply request that they submit any Scripture that proves to them there will be a 2nd advent of Christ in the end of this age.

And if they can and do, they obviously can't be Full Preterists then. But if they can't or unwilling to, it's a no-brainer then, it's because they are a Full Preterist in Partial Preterist clothing, since it is ludicrous to insist one believes that there is indeed a 2nd advent of Christ in the end of this age, meaning a literal bodily advent as was the first advent, but then not being able to produce one single Scripture they feel supports this.

Though, I disagree that any coming of Christ recorded in the Discourse is involving a coming of Christ in 70 AD in any sense, that hardly makes one a Full Preterist if they interpret any of those comings in that manner. What makes them a Full Preterist, thus a Full Preterist in Partial Preterist clothing, is if they insist that that there is indeed a 2nd advent of Christ in the end of this age, but then can't produce one single Scripture in all of the Bible they feel supports this.

How is it reasonable to insist there will be a 2nd advent of Christ in the end of this age, and then not even being able to produce one single Scripture that supports that, thus showing that that person does not actually believe that, otherwise they would be able to produce Scripture that they feel supports it. And so what if they don't feel any coming recorded in the Discourse supports a 2nd advent of Christ in the end of this age? Once again, that alone does not make them a Full Preterist unless they can't produce one single Scripture from elsewhere that they do feel supports a 2nd advent of Christ in the end of this age.

One point of this thread is this. I have noted certain other members attaching to certain other members, the "Full Preterist' label. And that they should not be doing that unless they can undeniably prove they are indeed Full Preterists pretending to be Partial Preterists. What I have proposed in the OP would be one way to undeniably prove they are Full Preterists, if the one being accused of this, when asked to produce any Scripture they feel supports a 2nd advent in the end of this age, that they then can't do that or unwilling to do that.

Giving Back What Was Not Ours to Take

Are we being asked by God to personally and willingly relinquish our knowledge of good and evil in favour of innocence while maintaining our original creativity? The Kingdom seems to support the notion that evil ways will be forgotten and no longer available as an option to avoid , unlike as it originally was in the Garden. Would you now give up that knowledge while yet in this life to show your willingness to follow the will of God? How would that affect your everyday life and those around you?

Hardened heart reversed

Is there any biblical examples of people that had gotten hardened hearts but God later, for some reason, chose to soften it without their repentance?
And I don't mean backsliding like David did, I mean hardened hearts like Pharaoh for example. Thank you in advance, I will try to look it up as well.

It's kind of a catch-22 scenario because in my definition a hardened heart can no longer repent, because they already have had their chances to repent, but repentance would be the key to getting a soft heart again. So the only way would be if God, for any other reason, would from his initiative choose to soften their heart. I just don't know for what reason, but if there is even one example that would mean a lot

Another Court tell' Biden NO

Federal Judge Issues Order Involving Biden Officials' Communication With Social Media Companies​

A federal judge has weighed in on members of President Joe Biden’s administration and their communications with social media companies.​
On Tuesday, U.S. District Judge Terry Doughty of Louisiana issued a 155-page ruling blocking officials from reaching out to social media platforms with the aim of suppressing political views that would otherwise be protected from government censorship.​

That's right - no more government censorship -

Would like to go back to Catholicism, but can't - thoughts?

There is a part of me that wants to go back, but I have become so convinced of two things I don't know I ever could. I am NOT looking to start a big debate - just share thoughts. I am hoping my days of adversarial debate are over.

1. The Papacy - I have done a lot of research on it, and it just seems the Vatican I Papacy doesn't fit with with the early church

2. The priest hood - I can't find a sacerdotal priesthood in the New Testament. I have seen explanations of where they think it's from, but the word priest is only used for Jesus as high priest, and the priesthood of all believers in the NT.

Has anyone else had these same objections, and then changed their mind?

The planet saw its hottest day ever this week.


On Monday, the average global temperature reached 17.01 degrees Celsius (62.62 Fahrenheit), the highest since records began. On Tuesday, it climbed even further, to reach 17.18 degrees Celsius. The previous record of 16.92 degrees Celsius was set in August 2016.

This global record is a preliminary one, but it’s another indication of how fast the world is heating up, as the arrival of the natural climate phenomenon El Niño, which has a warming effect, is layered on top of climate change-fueled global heating.

From Careless to Zealous - My Journey to Truth

Hi everyone! First time posting here. I'm not sure what to start with about myself, so I guess I'll talk briefly about my story, as someone who was not raised in the church.

I first called on the the name of Christ in 2015 (at the age of 26) after a lifetime of being relatively indifferent to all matters related to religion, and basically had to learn the hard way after a life of sin that you can't outrun the Lord (big surprise).

I actually just completed a testimony video this week chronicling my life experiences that ultimately led up to my conversion, which I'll share in a link below for any who may be interested (it is quite lengthy, but the responses I've received have been overwhelmingly positive thus far).

I'm an Orthodox Christian, so I am partial to a certain perspective on a number of matters, but I suppose that's the case with everyone, depending on your presuppositions.

I'm a lover of apologetics, so I appreciate thoughtful discussions and don't mind challenging others beliefs or being challenged (as may inevitably occur in my testimony; although, despite potential disagreements with certain conclusions I present, I think there's a little something in there for everyone, whether you're Roman Catholic, Protestant, some other religion, "spiritual but not religious", or even atheist/agnostic).

I've been sharing my faith around with the hopes of inspiring people who may be on the fence spiritually to take that next step as a leap of faith, as well as to encourage those who already believe in God to invest themselves deeper and getting more serious.

I'm passionate about wanting to help others understand the things I wish I'd known sooner; to expose those in our modern culture to the ancient traditions of the Early Church; to present church history to those unfamiliar with it; to explore and understand Theology in greater depth, and, of course, to reveal the love of God.

I pray that this is edifying in some small way and I look forward to meeting new people in the near future. I welcome all feedback both positive and critical, and hopefully will get to engage in some constructive dialogue along the way. God bless you!

My Testimony:
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Can our marriage be saved?

Hey everyone. This will be long but I desperately want to keep my wife and family, so here I am looking for Christian advice.

My wife and I have been married for 11 years. Like and marriage, we've had many ups and downs, at least I thought. We are both in our mid 30s with 1 child we absolutely love and were blessed with.

Recently my wife had been distant and not wanting to be much of any kind of affectionate toward me which led to me asking about it. She said she was finally standing up for herself and she was done being touched without permission, I was smothering her, and she basically felt trapped by me. Of course this came to a shock to me, but she finally told me why.

She said I've been controlling our entire marriage and she was done being controlled. I immediately went into defense mode saying I hadn't been and all the denying one usually does when accused.

We went on our anniversary trip we had planned and it ended up being a knock dorm drag out fight most of the time, which of course furthered this.

She proceeded to tell me more as to why she was feeling the way she did. She has felt like a sexual object, not a person, and not able to tell me no for any type of physical activity. She did things for me only because I had thrown a fit, acted mad, said things that hurt her feelings if she didn't want a hug or to have sex whenever I wanted, etc. I never drank until she came in my life. I had noticed it had gotten to where she only wanted sex if she drank enough to get tipsy. She would tell me to get her more drinks until she loosened up some. Well I of course at the time liked this because I was getting what wanted, not realizing she was having to drink to be with me sexually.

Before we had our child she had a very stressful job. It caused her to resent me because I wouldn't let her quit the job and find something different. There aren't too many jobs around where we live, and we had just had our child, so I was looking at things in the way of making sure we could provide for our family until something better came along. It caused many nights of exhaustion, stress, and heartache. 3 years ago now, she did end up getting a much better position at a company she likes with wonderful hours and pay.

I would constantly make her feel like she wasn't enough, and everything had to be my way or no way. I would pick at the smallest things and gripe about them. I even at one time early on said that man and woman once married were supposed to be one together sexually, and be together in that way which I shouldn't have said.

She likes tattoos and I told her I had rather her not getting an entire arm or leg done as I much prefer her natural skin. She wanted black hair at one point, and I told her I preferred other colors.

Never once did I say she couldn't, I just prefer this or that which made her feel inadequate on what she wanted. I never forced her to do anything physical, but my nagging made her when she didn't want to at all.

She has always put what others wanted above her wants, and loves approval from people. She has been this way even growing up with her parents. She did not have a great childhood.

Her parents are divorced and she was glad when they did so the fighting between them would stop.

She further told me she has emotionally checked out of our marriage, and doesn't know if we are able to be fixed.

This threw me into anger at first. But then I realized I hadn't prayed about any of this, or over our marriage in a long time. I then realized I WAS wrong, and that most everything of what she has been saying, is right. I immediately started praying and for forgiveness from God but also from her.

Since this started, I have felt the negativity, and all of this controlling behavior leave me. I have prayed every night, and am a different person. I don't know what was over me, but I felt it lift.

She has noticed the difference since I told her I admitted that I was wrong, and for most of our marriage, I made her feel this hurt and anger towards me. I have no idea why I was this way for so long. I never wanted to hurt her in any way.

Presently, she is sleeping in another bedroom in our house. It is absolutely killing me. She can't have any thing to do with me physically. She said she is nearly traumatized at this point from touch. Not just me, but friends or family even. She doesn't want me seeing her without clothes on right now, and I can't even hug her without her freaking out on me, so everything has stopped.

She said she is very angry, and very hurt, and is processing her feelings on if she can stay together, or if too much damage has been done for her to stay. She doesn't want to leave and wants to try, but she just doesn't know when or how to get through this feeling. She said if I can give her time and space, she will try, but me pushing her will make it worse.

We had a counselor before but I went back after a few weeks to the same old me. She is mad now because she loves the way she's been treated, and thus was the husband she wanted and never got. And now she wonders if too much damage has been done.

Something else I did wrong was she told me she didn't want to be physical with me, but I found one of her toys she was using by herself one time and called her out on it. This made her even more mad which now I see why. It's HER body as well, not mine.

She still calls me babe, takes pictures together, we still go to church together, go out to eat, and she still tells me she loves me. She just needs to process her thoughts and feelings, and it's 10 years worth of bad memories. There are some good, and she's trying to focus on them.

She said she isn't ready to tell a counselor everything she's felt, but may can get there to help her process.

I gel feel absolutely worthless, and like the worst man on the earth right now. Why didn't I see these things before. Why didn't I pray through until it released?

My friends have went through some rough times as well and have nearly divorced. They have been in the same boat. They said give her time and the space she wants. God can heal I know that. I have faith, but it's so hard to roll over and not have her in our bed, and in the guest room instead. Neither of us want to raise our child in a split home. She just says she can't get over this anger and hurt right now, and time is what she needs.

I would love advice, and does it sound like she may stay? We had our normal talk/snack/drink together tonight and shared some laughs together. She sent me some funny pictures about things we joke about a lot. I think she wants to work things out, she just needs to see that this husband I am now, offering help, not being negative, basically the husband she wants, is here to stay.

I just want her to heal from our lady past, and have more positive years than bad. Does this seem possible in our situation? Thank you to whoever takes time to help give advice on this!

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‘Our children, our rights’: Scores of parents hit rally opposing MoCo schools’ LGBTQ policies

Parents with teens and tykes in tow chanted “education over indoctrination,” “we shall never surrender our children,” and most passionately, “leave our kids alone,” as they gathered to oppose Montgomery County Public Schools’ removal of its opt-out option for elementary reading materials that cover gay and transgender topics.

The rally is in opposition to MCPS revoking parents’ ability to withhold their elementary-aged children from lesson plans that include LGBTQ-themed books recently added to the curriculum.

A Childhood Experience - A Question I've Never Explored

I grew up in a Christian home since birth and I've been a follower of Jesus for 43 years. But there's one thing in my childhood that was very strange that I've never questioned out loud... It happened twice and I'm still questioning what was it?

One I was in the dining room, I must have been about 3-4 years old. My parents enter the room and they kiss, but they change form into what looked like human sized big foot, all dark brown and furry. I blinked my eyes and they were back in human form.

The second time it happened was I was in bed and my mother (& father) came in to tuck me in goodnight and the lights were on, a bedside lamp and ceiling light. And again I saw my mother turn into a human sized furry bigfoot creature before I blinked again and she was back in human form.

What was that? I've always wondered. Did I see something in the spiritual realm?

I have a follow up to this and will talk about it after some feedback, perhaps someone has insight or a word of knowledge about what happened.

NOTE: I don't believe in aliens or UFO's or any nonsense like that, but I am miffed at what I witnessed as a very young child.
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Obama White House looped in Hunter Biden in email to his VP dad about Ukraine

A White House scheduling email sent to then-Vice President Joseph R. Biden ahead of a call with Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko was also sent to his son Hunter who was serving on the board of a Ukrainian energy firm looking to escape a corruption probe.

In the call, the elder Mr. Biden urged Mr. Poroshenko to continue reforming Ukraine’s prosecutor general office. It’s unclear whether Hunter Biden was involved in the call outside of getting an email alert about it.

The timing of the call, however, coincides with Hunter Biden‘s $1 million-a-year job on the board for Burisma, which allegedly hired him to help dodge charges from the Ukrainian prosecutor general.

The White House scheduling email was sent on May 26, 2016, from Mr. Biden‘s assistant, John S. Flynn. It was disclosed by the National Archives in response to a Freedom of Information Request and mined by an online FOIA sleuth who gave it to The Washington Times.

Forgot to do this a week ago but hey :/

Hey. My name's Aj and I am just here for help and encouragement. I am not okay as of now but I still want to seek help from people that I know that care. but still. Just want to say something. I don't have a plan or purpose for life, I dont feel alright. I dont think I am but im here. just. constantly online trying to relieve my inadequacy and some other stuff lol.
Prayers though. Please.
And help.

Greetings Family!

Hello! I am a 52 year old wife, grandmother, mother, nurse, and counselor who is seeking out more ways in which to fellowship with Brothers and Sisters as we see the day of our entrance to Heaven rapidly approaching. As has been the case for many people, the past few years have been especially difficult. We, Believers, are like "fish out of water" anymore in this world, but PTL our Creator specializes in the miraculous so even though we are "fish out of water" we remain alive in Him. I hope to connect with others who are seeking to stand firm, and to finish well, by G-d's Grace, until we get to go Home.

Job Questioned God

Job 10 8 Your hands shaped me and altogether formed me. Would You now turn and destroy me?

Looks like a fair question to me. The answer is in Job 11

13As for you, if you direct your heart

and lift up your hands to Him,

14if you put away the iniquity in your hand,

and allow no injustice to dwell in your tents,

15then indeed you will lift up your face without shame;

you will stand firm and unafraid.

Open Theism - ?? what definition for it?

Richard Rice at LLU - promotes something he calls "Open Theism".

I don't know if Rice uses this definition or not


"Some" define the term to mean "God does not actually know the future" or that "God knows possible futures but does not know which one will actually play out." -- and Idea which I am sure most people here would reject (as do I).

But what about the one above that admits "God allows humans to make free choices that affect the future"? I suspect almost everyone here would agree with the idea that choices do affect the future - yet God most certainly knows exactly what will happen without any doubt, confusion etc on His part.

In any case when I hear that term used I think of the negative side of it and reject it. However is it possible some are using it in a way that does not include that sort of negative constraint?

Gift of Discernment

There is more to discerning the spirit of another than trying to detect "antichrist". Some people are just plain devious, and it is not a necessity of God's children to be taken advantage of by insincere people. The discipline is simply in being quick to listen, and slow to speak or act.

Ezekiel 3:10 Moreover He said to me: Son of man, receive into your heart all My words that I speak to you, and hear with your ears.

The gift of the Holy Spirit allows us to listen with our ears, while simultaneously hearing His Voice in our hearts. One or two follow-up questions will normally be sufficient to discern a person's subtlety, revealing contradictions to their narrative. This is an absolute necessity if you hope to walk at liberty in Christ.

Galatians 5:18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.

This is not some gift that you are born again with, but is developed by faith in action.

Hebrews 5:
12 For though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you again
the first principles of the oracles of God; and you have come to need milk and not solid food.
13 For everyone who partakes only of milk is unskilled in the word of righteousness, for he is a babe.
14 But solid food belongs to those who are of full age, that is, those who by reason of use have their
senses exercised to discern both good and evil.
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Trump-appointed judge blocks Biden agencies from communicating with social media platforms

A federal judge has blocked key agencies within President Joe Biden’s administration from communicating with social media companies about certain online speech in an extraordinary ruling as part of an ongoing case that could have profound impacts on the First Amendment.

The preliminary injunction granted by Donald Trump-appointed US District Judge Terry A Doughty in Louisiana on 4 July prohibits the FBI and the US Department of Health and Human Services, among others, from speaking with platforms for “the purpose of urging, encouraging, pressuring, or inducing in any manner the removal, deletion, suppression, or reduction of content containing protected free speech.”



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Hunter Biden back from Camp David after possible cocaine found at White House

First son Hunter Biden returned to Washington, DC, on Tuesday following a Fourth of July weekend getaway to Camp David with his father and other members of the Biden family — during which a powdered substance found in the West Wing initially tested positive for cocaine.

Block out the sun and pay billions in reparation's

I thought we/people cause climate change, or global warming or whatever. So why block out the sun?


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