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Couple Abandons Stillborn Says They Don't Know What to Do



I can't bring myself to believe people who say they know not what to do when confronted with such a scenario.

1. Call the police
2. Call the hospital/clinic
3. Call emergency services

People who won't get in touch with the authorities only have things to hide. If the death is really accidental or natural, there shouldn't be a need to hide. It may be painful to go through the interrogation but innocent people will pass it without incident.

Dark earth?

ESV, Genesis 1:
1 In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. 2The earth was without form and void,
The dark earth was formless and empty. It was not made of baryonic molecules at this point.
and darkness was over the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.
God created dark heavens and dark earth in the form of dark waters/matters. Photons have yet to exist:
3 And God said, “Let there be light [photons],” and there was light.
Visible photons were created. Physical space-time began. God could speak outside of time. God is not bounded by space-time.
4And God saw that the light was good. And God separated the light from the darkness. 5God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And there was evening and there was morning, the first day.
This was not a 24-hour day as we know it today. The first day began with dark matter.
9And God said, “Let the waters under the heavens be gathered together into one place, and let the dry land appear.” And it was so. 10God called the dry land Earth, and the waters that were gathered together he called Seas. And God saw that it was good.
God turned the dark waters/matter earth into ordinary-matter earth. This is my speculation :)

The Deaconess Idea Redux

The much-anticipated Synod in the fall is to discuss the question of deaconesses. As is the case with so many other stupid ideas, the Protestants have been ahead of us for centuries on the issue.

Here we go again: the much-anticipated Synod in the fall is to discuss the question of deaconesses. As is the case with so many other stupid ideas, the Protestants have been ahead of us for centuries on the issue.

Two anecdotes illustrate my concern about this.

The first occurred when I was on a sabbatical in Providence, Rhode Island. I helped a Catholic campus minister who was working with Newman chaplaincies in a few public college venues. He knew an Episcopalian deaconess who also worked at a community college. I celebrated a Mass one day for a small group, and then the campus minister, the deaconess, and I had lunch together.

Continued below.
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Reversing Negative and Positive

Paul had just finished talking about those who were preaching to the Christians a gospel contrary to the one that the apostles preached, which was also contrary to the gospel that Jesus taught and lived. He said, “let him be accursed.” Why? Because he/they were teaching deliberate lies to the people in order to deceive them and to lead them astray. And so Paul was very concerned that at least some of these Christians were turning to this “different gospel” which was a distortion of the gospel of Christ.

Galatians 1:10-12 ESV

“For am I now seeking the approval of man, or of God? Or am I trying to please man? If I were still trying to please man, I would not be a servant of Christ. For I would have you know, brothers, that the gospel that was preached by me is not man's gospel. For I did not receive it from any man, nor was I taught it, but I received it through a revelation of Jesus Christ.”

The implication here, it seems, is that those who were teaching this “different gospel” were those who were seeking the approval of man and not of God. They were those who were trying to please man. And one of the characteristic traits of those who are false prophets or false teachers is that they say what people’s itching ears want to hear, and they appease human flesh. So they distort the truth of the gospel so that humans will like them. And so they tell them “pleasant things” which make them feel good.

They say, “peace, peace, when there is no peace” (Jeremiah 6:14; Jeremiah 8:11; Ezekiel 13:10,16). And they contradict the messages of God’s true messengers and teachers and preachers. For they consider the messages of God’s true servants as “negative” while the messages of the false teachers are more “positive” and inviting. And this is a HUGE deception being promoted within the American church of day, big time!

I read this description at gotquestions.org, and it was good:

“Jeremiah was like a doctor delivering bad news to his patient. His diagnosis was that, unless drastic measures were taken, the patient would die. However, the false prophets gave a ‘second opinion.’ ‘Don’t listen to Jeremiah,’ they said; ‘you are going to be just fine.’ Instead of radical surgery and a drastic change of lifestyle, the priests and false prophets said a light bandage was all that was needed” (see Jeremiah 6:13-14; Jeremiah 8:10b-11). (1)

Wow! So appropriate to what is being done today! For, in trying to avoid the negative and to say only what is positive and inviting to the people, these false teachers are giving the people false assurances. Absolutely! So these false teachers do not deal with the rampant sin being overlooked within the gatherings of the church today. Instead, they pacify the people in their sins so that they don’t feel guilty for sinning against the Lord. And so they tell them to just “claim who you are in Christ,” even if it is a lie.

They speak only of the blessings and promises of God, even if biblically they don’t apply to the people at all. For all God’s promises have conditions which must be met for those promises to apply to our lives. And so these false teachers habitually lie to the people so that the people will feel good about themselves and so they will feel good about the false teachers. For they tell the people that God is not displeased with them when they habitually and deliberately sin against the Lord, and that makes them feel good.

So, Paul told Timothy to “preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, and exhort, with complete patience and teaching. For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths.” 2 Timothy 4:2-4 ESV

And that time has indeed come, at least here in America it has. For many are “rebellious people, deceitful children, children unwilling to listen to the Lord’s instruction” (Isaiah 30:9). So, they have closed their ears to the truth of the gospel which Jesus taught and which his NT apostles taught, and many are they who are following after these smooth-tongued false teachers of today who are telling them what they want to hear.

For the people are saying, “Do not see,”
and to the prophets, “Do not prophesy to us what is right;
speak to us smooth things,
prophesy illusions,
leave the way, turn aside from the path,
let us hear no more about the Holy One of Israel.” (Isaiah 30:10–11).

And this is exactly the message that is being widely accepted and promoted within the gatherings of today’s modern market-driven “churches” here in America. And I have heard this message a lot from various responders over the years and just from “Christians,” in general. And this comes out in memes on social media a lot, too. And so many people are buying into this and thus they are absolutely rejecting the truth of the gospel for these “feel-good” messages that so many of these false teachers are spreading today.

So, the “different gospel” that these false teachers were teaching was evidently a message that was more appealing to human flesh. And it got these false teachers approval of man, but not of God. For they were teaching a “man’s gospel” and not the gospel of Christ as Jesus and as his NT apostles taught it. And that is why Paul was assuring the people that he was not seeking the approval of man, but of God, and he was not trying to please man, but God, so he would be a true servant of God/Christ.

So, the message to us today is that we must follow suit. We must not be looking for messages and messengers which are going to tickle our itching ears and appease our human flesh and which are going to make us feel good about ourselves even if we are living in deliberate and habitual sin against the Lord. We should be seekers of truth and of righteousness and not seekers of “feel-good” messages only. For it is negative to lie to people and it is positive to tell people the truth. So they have it all backwards.

Oh, to Be Like Thee, Blessed Redeemer

Lyrics by Thomas O. Chisholm, 1897
Music by W. J. Kirkpatrick, 1897


Oh, to be like Thee! blessèd Redeemer,
This is my constant longing and prayer;
Gladly I’ll forfeit all of earth’s treasures,
Jesus, Thy perfect likeness to wear.

Oh, to be like Thee! full of compassion,
Loving, forgiving, tender and kind,
Helping the helpless, cheering the fainting,
Seeking the wandering sinner to find.

O to be like Thee! lowly in spirit,
Holy and harmless, patient and brave;
Meekly enduring cruel reproaches,
Willing to suffer others to save.

O to be like Thee! while I am pleading,
Pour out Thy Spirit, fill with Thy love;
Make me a temple meet for Thy dwelling,
Fit me for life and Heaven above.

Oh, to be like Thee! Oh, to be like Thee,
Blessèd Redeemer, pure as Thou art;
Come in Thy sweetness, come in Thy fullness;
Stamp Thine own image deep on my heart.

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(1) What does “peace, peace, when there is no peace” mean in Jeremiah 8:11? | GotQuestions.org

Can Christians Work for Income on the Sabbath Day?

Jesus' teaching on how to observe (or keep) the sabbath day seems pretty clear. He not only provided several examples of how Jews would often do good works on the day, cf. Mat 12:11; Lk 13:15-17; 14:5, but he also asked his hypocritical detractors straight out whether it was lawful to do good or do harm, or to save a life or to kill on the sabbath (Mk 3:4); or was it even lawful to heal on the sabbath (Lk 14:3). But even more than these things, and no doubt due to the hardness of their hearts, he stated plainly and unequivocally that it was lawful to do good on the day (Mat 12:12).

On the other hand, The Law and the Prophets just as plainly teach that conducting commerce on the sabbath (i.e. earning income) was strictly forbidden (Neh 10:31; 13:15-17; Jer 17:21, etc.).

So...since all this is true, it certainly appears that born again Christians in this New Covenant Gospel Age are totally forbidden to do any kind or work for income on the sabbath day (whether this be on the 7th or 8th day). Christians are locked out of numerous professions that would do good unto others such as medical, law enforcement, fire, telecommunications, transportation, utilities, etc.

Reformed Baptists, for example, conveniently ignore the OT passages cited above and declare that "emergency" or "first responder" kind of work is perfectly okay for Christians to engage in on the sabbath because they rely only on what Jesus taught. Yet, the Law is the Law! And the Law says that no income-earning work can be done on the sabbath! Moreover, Jesus never accepted any money for any of the good works he did on the sabbath -- or on any other day for that matter. So, the Reformed Baptist tend to play a wee bit loose and free with the sabbath, in spite of all their rhetoric about the sanctity of the Law of Moses today.

So, what sayest you, sabbath-keepers: Are Christians in this age forbidden to do any income-earning work on the sabbath?

This or That

Why didn’t the authors of the gospels use “that” generation instead of “this” generation, if Jesus didn’t mean the generation standing in front of him?

Matthew 24:34 Truly I tell you, this (αὕτη) generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened.

Original Word: οὗτος, αὕτη, τοῦτο
Part of Speech: Demonstrative Pronoun
Transliteration: houtos, hauté, touto
Phonetic Spelling: (hoo'-tos)
Definition: this

Exodus 1:6 (LXX) And Joseph died, and all his brethren, and all that (ἐκεῖνος) generation.

Judges 2:10 (LXX) And also all that (ἐκεῖνος) generation were gathered unto their fathers: and there aroseanother generation after them, which knew not the LORD, nor yet the works which he had done for Israel.

Psalm 95:10 (LXX) Forty years long was I grieved with that ( ἐκεῖνος) generation, and said, It is a people that do errin their heart, and they have not known my ways:

Original Word: ἐκεῖνος, η, ο
Part of Speech: Demonstrative Pronoun
Transliteration: ekeinos
Phonetic Spelling: (ek-i'-nos)
Definition: that one (or neut. that thing), often intensified by the article preceding
Usage: that, that one there, yonder.
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FBI agent confirms IRS agents’ testimony on interference in Hunter Biden probe

A supervisory special agent at the FBI has confirmed a key element of IRS agents’ testimony that they were blocked from interviewing Hunter Biden as part of their investigation into his criminal activities, Republicans’ top investigator said Monday.

The agent, whose name was not divulged, said higher-ups at the FBI tipped off the Secret Service a day before the interview was to take place in December 2020. Word then came down to put off the interview, the agent said in testimony to the House Oversight and Accountability Committee.

“As a result of the change in plans, IRS and FBI criminal investigators never got to interview Hunter Biden as part of the investigation,” Rep. James Comer, Kentucky Republican and chairman of the committee, said in a summary of the testimony he released publicly.

Twitter declares ‘factual error’ in Biden tweet boasting about economy, wages

President Biden was fact-checked by Twitter once again on Monday for a claim he made about his economic policies increasing workers’ wages since the pandemic.

“Right now, real wages for the average American worker is” — sic — “higher than it was before the pandemic, with lower wage workers seeing the largest gains,” Mr. Biden wrote on Twitter. “That’s Bidenomics.”

Twitter Community Notes quickly attached a warning for readers that Mr. Biden’s “claim about real wages contains a factual error.”


Biden is posting disinformation on Twitter?!?

Where is his Ministry of Truth to save us?

Building Yourself Up In The Spirit

JUDE 1
:20 But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost,
:21 Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.
:22 And of some have compassion, making a difference:
:23 And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.


Step One: Building yourself up DAILY

Acts 20:32 So now, brethren, I commend you to God and to the word of His grace, which is able to build you up
and give you an inheritance among all those who are sanctified.


Colossians 2:
6 As you therefore have received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk in Him,
7 rooted and built up in Him and established in the faith, as you have been taught,
abounding in it with thanksgiving.

Thoughts and suggestions for practicum if you please

A guest preacher once ministered by making the comparison of praying in the Spirit to the winter snow pack,
that keeps a supply of fresh water through the dry months. I find this still must be applied to a knowledge of
the Lord's Will for us individually and as a part of our fellowship.

Praying in the Spirit, as v. 20 indicates, is an act of faith.

How To Respond To People Who Hate God

I recently tried to witness to a man whom had childhood trauma and even speaking to him about the love of God put him into a rage. He further said to me to look at all of the evil in this world and what happens to innocent children and good people. I have never met a man so full of rage and hate for God before. He was ashamed for coming out of the closet unwillingly and being exposed, after trying to hide being gay for many years. He said God never helped him or any innocent and abused children. Evil in the world and unanswered prayers seems to be the main reason why people hate God

Trump and Allies Forge Plans to Increase Presidential Power in 2025

If he were to win....


Their plans to centralize more power in the Oval Office stretch far beyond the former president’s recent remarks that he would order a criminal investigation into his political rival, President Biden, signaling his intent to end the post-Watergate norm of Justice Department independence from White House political control......​
Mr. Trump intends to bring independent agencies — like the Federal Communications Commission, which makes and enforces rules for television and internet companies, and the Federal Trade Commission, which enforces various antitrust and other consumer protection rules against businesses — under direct presidential control.....​
He wants to revive the practice of “impounding” funds, refusing to spend money Congress has appropriated for programs a president doesn’t like — a tactic that lawmakers banned under President Richard Nixon.​
He intends to strip employment protections from tens of thousands of career civil servants, making it easier to replace them if they are deemed obstacles to his agenda. And he plans to scour the intelligence agencies, the State Department and the defense bureaucracies to remove officials he has vilified as “the sick political class that hates our country.....​
And for some veterans of Mr. Trump’s turbulent White House who came to question his fitness for leadership, the prospect of removing guardrails and centralizing even greater power over government directly in his hands sounded like a recipe for mayhem.​
“It would be chaotic,” said John F. Kelly, Mr. Trump’s second White House chief of staff. “It just simply would be chaotic, because he’d continually be trying to exceed his authority but the sycophants would go along with it. It would be a nonstop gunfight with the Congress and the courts.”......​
Personal power has always been a driving force for Mr. Trump. He often gestures toward it in a more simplistic manner, such as in 2019, when he declared to a cheering crowd, “I have an Article 2, where I have the right to do whatever I want as president.”​

How to start a dictatorship?

List of Totally and Partially Omitted Passages in the Modern Translations

These need to be referenced with a modern translation by comparing them with one another.


Totally Omitted Passages
Matthew 17:21
Matthew 18:11
Mat 23:14
Mark 7:16
Mark 9:44
Mark 9:46
Mark 11:26
Mark 15:28
Luke 23:17
Acts 24:7


List of omitted Bible phrases
3 Matthew 1:25
4 Matthew 5:22
5 Matthew 5:44
6 Matthew 6:4
7 Matthew 6:6
8 Matthew 6:13
9 Matthew 6:18
10 Matthew 9:13
11 Matthew 15:8
12 Matthew 15:6
13 Matthew 16:3
14 Matthew 16:20
15 Matthew 18:35
16 Matthew 19:9
17 Matthew 19:17
18 Matthew 20:7
19 Matthew 20:16
20 Matthew 20:22, 23
21 Matthew 21:12
22 Matthew 22:13
23 Matthew 23:4
24 Matthew 23:8
25 Matthew 23:19
26 Matthew 24:7
27 Matthew 25:13
28 Matthew 26:28
29 Matthew 26:60
30 Matthew 27:24
31 Matthew 27:35
32 Matthew 27:64
33 Matthew 28:2
34 Matthew 28:6
35 Matthew 28:9
36 Mark 1:2
37 Mark 1:14
38 Mark 1:31
39 Mark 3:15
40 Mark 4:24
41 Mark 5:36
42 Mark 6:33
43 Mark 6:11
44 Mark 6:51
45 Mark 7:8
46 Mark 8:26
47 Mark 9:23
48 Mark 9:29
49 Mark 9:45
50 Mark 9:49
51 Mark 10:21
52 Mark 10:24
53 Mark 11:10
54 Mark 12:23
55 Mark 12:29-30
56 Mark 12:33
57 Mark 13:8
58 Mark 13:33
59 Mark 13:14
60 Mark 14:22
61 Mark 14:27
62 Mark 14:68
63 Mark 14:70
64 Luke 1:28
65 Luke 2:33
66 Luke 2:40
67 Luke 2:43
68 Luke 4:8
69 Luke 4:4
70 Luke 4:18
71 Luke 4:41
72 Luke 5:38
73 Luke 6:10
74 Luke 7:31
75 Luke 8:43
76 Luke 8:48
77 Luke 8:54
78 Luke 9:10
79 Luke 9:54
80 Luke 9:55
81 Luke 9:56
82 Luke 9:57
83 Luke 10:19
84 Luke 11:2
85 Luke 11:11
86 Luke 11:29
87 Luke 11:44
88 Luke 11:54
89 Luke 12:31
90 Luke 12:39
91 Luke 17:3
92 Luke 17:9
93 Luke 18:24
94 Luke 19:45
95 Luke 20:13
96 Luke 20:30
97 Luke 20:33
98 Luke 21:4
99 Luke 22:31
100 Luke 22:64
101 Luke 22:68
102 Luke 23:23
103 Luke 23:38
104 Luke 23:42
105 Luke 24:1
106 Luke 24:42
107 Luke 24:49
108 Luke 24:53
109 John 1:14
110 John 1:18
111 John 1:27
112 John 3:13
113 John 3:15
114 John 3:16
115 John 4:42
116 John 5:16
117 John 6:11
118 John 6:47
119 John 8:9
120 John 8:59
121 John 9:35
122 John 11:41
123 John 12:1
124 John 16:16
125 John 17:12
126 John 19:16
127 John 20:29
128 Acts 2:30
129 Acts 2:31
130 Acts 3:11
131 Acts 3:26
132 Acts 7:30
133 Acts 7:37
134 Acts 9:5,6
135 Acts 10:6
136 Acts 9:29
137 Acts 10:21
138 Acts 10:30
139 Acts 15:18
140 Acts 15:24
141 Acts 15:37
142 Acts 16:31
143 Acts 17:5
144 Acts 18:17
145 Acts 18:21
146 Acts 20:15
147 Acts 20:24
148 Acts 20:25
149 Acts 20:32
150 Acts 21:8
151 Acts 21:22
152 Acts 21:25
153 Acts 22:9
154 Acts 23:9
155 Acts 24:6
156 Acts 24:8
157 Acts 24:15
158 Acts 24:26
159 Acts 25:16
160 Acts 26:30
161 Acts 28:16
162 Romans 1:16
163 Romans 8:1
164 Romans 9:28
165 Romans 10:15
166 Romans 11:6
167 Romans 13:9
168 Romans 14:6
169 Romans 14:21
170 Romans 15:29
171 1 Corinthians 2:4
172 1 Corinthians 4:6
173 1 Corinthians 6:20
174 1 Corinthians 7:29
175 1 Corinthians 10:28
176 1 Corinthians 11:24
177 1 Corinthians 11:29
178 1 Corinthians 15:47
179 1 Corinthians 16:22-23
180 2 Corinthians 4:4
181 2 Corinthians 4:10
182 Galatians 3:1
183 Galatians 4:7
184 Galatians 5:21
185 Galatians 6:15
186 Ephesians 3:9
187 Ephesians 3:14
188 Ephesians 5:30
189 Ephesians 6:10
190 Philippians 3:16
191 Colossians 1:2
192 Colossians 1:14
193 Colossians 2:2
194 Colossians 2:18
195 Colossians 3:6
196 1 Thessalonians 1:1
197 1 Thessalonians 5:27
198 2 Thessalonians 1:8
199 1 Timothy 3:16
200 1 Timothy 4:12
201 1 Timothy 5:16
202 1 Timothy 6:5
203 2 Timothy 1:11
204 2 Timothy 2:9
205 2 Timothy 4:22
206 Philemon 1:12
207 Titus 1:4
208 Hebrews 1:3
209 Hebrews 2:7
210 Hebrews 7:21
211 Hebrews 10:9
212 Hebrews 10:30
213 Hebrews 10:34
214 Hebrews 11:11
215 Hebrews 11:37
216 Hebrews 12:20
217 1 Peter 1:22
218 1 Peter 4:1
219 1 Peter 4:14
220 1 Peter 5:5
221 1 Peter 5:10-11
222 2 Peter 1:21
223 2 Peter 2:17
224 2 Peter 3:10
225 1 John 1:7
226 1 John 2:7
227 1 John 4:3
228 1 John 4:9
229 1 John 4:19
230 1 John 5:7,8
231 1 John 5:13
232 2 John 1:9
233 Jude 1:25
234 Revelation 1:8
235 Revelation 1:11
236 Revelation 1:20
237 Revelation 2:13
238 Revelation 2:15
239 Revelation 5:14
240 Revelation 6:1,3,5,7
241 Revelation 11:17
242 Revelation 12:12
243 Revelation 12:17
244 Revelation 14:5
245 Revelation 15:2
246 Revelation 16:17
247 Revelation 18:20
248 Revelation 20:9
249 Revelation 20:12
250 Revelation 21:24
251 Revelation 22:19

Warren Buffett and the $4 Cup of Coffee

Anyone feel sorry for the lady?

How do you wait for the Kingdom of God?

Mark 15.43 TPT: So a prominent Jewish leader named Joseph, from the village of Ramah, courageously went to see Pilate and begged to have custody of the body of Jesus. Joseph was a highly regarded member of the Jewish council and a follower of Jesus, who was eagerly awaiting the kingdom of God.

LESSON:
To eagerly await the kingdom is not a passive activity, but one that requires progressive preparation on our part so that we may be found worthy to partake in it when it comes. "And now, dear children, continue in him, so that when he appears we may be confident and unashamed before him at his coming (1 John 2.28), "All who have this hope in him purify themselves, just as he is pure (I John 3.3). Therefore, be diligent in prayer, in the word (studying, meditating, and practicing), communion with the Lord Holy Spirit, and fellowship with brethren so that you will grow and be prepared, having oil (Zoe), not only in your lamp (your human spirit) but also in your vessel (flesh - soul & body).

Dietary laws from Adam to the apostles

Before the Fall, Adam and Eve were vegetarians, Genesis 1:
29 Then God said, “I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food.

After the flood, Noah was allowed to eat meat, Genesis 9:
3 Everything that lives and moves about will be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you everything.
But there was a catch:
4 But you shall not eat flesh with its life, that is, its blood.
Don't eat blood.

For the Israelites, Leviticus 17:
14 For the life of every creature is its blood: its blood is its life. Therefore I have said to the people of Israel, You shall not eat the blood of any creature, for the life of every creature is its blood. Whoever eats it shall be cut off.

Furthermore, there was a distinction between clean and unclean Food, Leviticus 11:
1 The Lord said to Moses and Aaron, 2“Say to the Israelites: ‘Of all the animals that live on land, these are the ones you may eat: 3You may eat any animal that has a divided hoof and that chews the cud.

Targeting the Gentiles, the Lord told Peter in Acts 10:
15 The voice spoke to him a second time, “Do not call anything impure that God has made clean.”

James arrived at a compromise between the influences of Jews and Gentiles, Acts 15: The Jerusalem Council declared in Acts 15:
28 For it has seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us to lay on you no greater burden than these requirements: 29a that you abstain from what has been sacrificed to idols, and from blood, and from what has been strangled

In the final analysis, for us today, Mark 7:
19 For it doesn’t go into their heart but into their stomach, and then out of the body.” (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods clean.)

Paul was emphatic, Romans 14:
14 I am convinced and fully persuaded in the Lord Jesus that nothing is unclean in itself. But if anyone regards something as unclean, then for him it is unclean.
17 For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking but of righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit.
20a Do not destroy the work of God for the sake of food. All food is clean

Foods law was strange teaching, Hebrews 13:
9 Do not be led away by diverse and strange teachings, for it is good for the heart to be strengthened by grace, not by foods, which have not benefited those devoted to them.

Colossians 2:
16 do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink.

It is reiterated in 1 Timothy 4:
3 They [demons] will prohibit marriage and require abstinence from certain foods

In fact, demons will make dietary requirements.
that God has created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. 4 For every creation of God is good, and nothing that is received with thanksgiving should be rejected, 5 because it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.

Jesus gave us the freedom to eat. Follow your conscience.

Death Working In A Believer's Life

2 Corinthians 4:
7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellence of the power may be of God and not of us.
8 We are hard-pressed on every side, yet not crushed; we are perplexed, but not in despair;
9 persecuted, but not forsaken; struck down, but not destroyed—
10 always carrying about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life of Jesus also may be manifested in our body.
11 For we who live are always delivered to death for Jesus’ sake, that the life of Jesus also may be manifested in our mortal flesh.
12 So then death is working in us, but life in you.

13 And since we have the same spirit of faith, according to what is written, “I believed and therefore I spoke,” we also believe and therefore speak,
14 knowing that He who raised up the Lord Jesus will also raise us up with Jesus, and will present us with you.
15 For all things are for your sakes, that grace, having spread through the many, may cause thanksgiving to abound to the glory of God.

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1 SAMUEL 2
撒母耳记上 第二章


22 Now Eli was very old, and heard all that his sons did unto all Israel; and how they lay with the women that assembled at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation.
22 以利年甚老迈,听见他两个儿子待以色列众人的事,又听见他们与会幕门前伺候的妇人苟合,

23 And he said unto them, Why do ye such things? for I hear of your evil dealings by all this people.
23他就对他们说:「你们为何行这样的事呢?我从这众百姓听见你们的恶行。

24 Nay, my sons; for it is no good report that I hear: ye make the Lord's people to transgress.
24我儿啊,不可这样!我听见你们的风声不好,你们使耶和华的百姓犯了罪。



A SLAP ON THE WRIST
轻微的惩罚

Eli was the High priest, his sons were priests also, but they where a disgrace to their calling. Not only were they thieves, but they were fornicators.
以利是大祭司,他的儿子们也是祭司,但他们的呼召是一种耻辱。 他们不仅是小偷,还是通奸者。

These women came to worship God, but these two evil men used and abused their power.
这些女人是来敬拜神的,但这两个恶人却滥用他们的权势。

The Lord eventually dealt with them and rightly so, but why did it have to come to that?
主最终对付了他们,这是正确的,但为什么非要这样呢?

I have heard it enough times, some Christian is living in sin and I hear this:
我已经听过很多次了。有些基督徒生活在罪中,然后我听到这样的话:

You can't judge him/her
你不能论断他/她

You should look at your own life first.
你应该先看看你自己的生活。

You should show them love
你应该向他们表达你的爱

They have been members of the church a long time, we can't drive them away.
他们已经是教会的成员很久了,我们不能把他们赶走。

Eli knew that what they were doing was sinful, he was the stereotypical bad parent or even pastor, whatever their child or church member do, they tolerate, they don't want to rock the boat, they can't correct their children/church members, that is too harsh by far.
以利知道这些人这样做是有罪的,这些人是刻板的坏父母甚至是牧师,无论他们的孩子或教会成员做什么,他们都会容忍,他们不想搅局,他们无法纠正他们的孩子/教会 成员们,“这太苛刻了”。

Now I realise that God hardened their hearts, because of their indifference, but Eli was at fault here, he should have dealt firmly, in banning these evil men from the priest's office, the things they were doing, were worthy of severe punishment or even death.
现在我意识到上帝正因为他们的冷漠而使他们的心刚硬。以利在这里有错,他应该坚决对待,禁止这些邪恶的人任祭司的职位,他们所做的事情,应该受到严厉的惩罚甚至是 死亡。

Virtually the same scenario happened in Numbers 25, what happened these two were pierced through by Phinehas. So why didn't this happen with these two evil men?
几乎相同的场景在民数记25章也发生过,那两个人被非尼哈刺穿的事情。 那么,为什么对以利的儿子没有降下这样的惩罚呢?

I hear this all the time, something happens in a church, some Christian is in sexual sin and after multiple rebukes refuses to change his/her behaviour. We need to deal with sin in the house of God, not wait and say, let's wait and pray and let God handle it. He has given us pastors and deacons with authority to deal with this, but how often do they act like Eli and give a slap on the wrist, when they need to deal with the sin like Phinehas did and kill it, that is to disallow fellowship to that person.
我一直听到这类事情在教会里发生,一些基督徒在性犯罪中跌倒,甚至在受到多次指责之后也拒绝改变。 我们需要在神的殿中对付罪,而不是等着说,让我们等着祷告,让神来处理。 他给了我们牧师和执事处理这个问题的权力,但是当他们需要像非尼哈那样处理并杀死罪恶时,他们有多少次像以利那样行事,只是打了一下手腕,那就是不允许那个人参加团契。

Time to clean house Church, judgement begins at the house of God.
是时候打扫教会了,审判从神的家开始。

God wants a pure church.
神要的是一个纯洁的教会。

God bless you
上帝祝福你

KK



1 TIMOTHY 1
提摩太前书一章

18 This charge I commit unto thee, son Timothy, according to the prophecies which went before on thee, that thou by them mightiest war a good warfare;
19 Holding faith, and a good conscience; which some having put away concerning faith have made shipwreck
18我儿提摩太啊,我照从前指着你的预言,将这命令交托你,叫你因此可以打那美好的仗。
19常存信心和无亏的良心。有人丢弃良心,就在真道上如同船破坏了一般。

HOLDING ONTO YOUR FAITH
要坚守信念


Hey Christian, YOU are in a WAR!!
嘿基督徒,你是在打仗!!


Timothy had to do certain things and we must do these things also.
提摩太要做的事,我们也要做。

We need to war a good warfare, we need to realise that our enemy, although he is defeated, is still dangerous.
我们需要打一场美好的仗,我们需要意识到敌人虽然已经打败了,但仍然很危险。

To wage a good warfare, we have to hold onto our faith tightly. In one verse it says that we have to "cling tightly" to it. We can do this because God first clings tightly to us!
要打一场美好的仗,我们必须紧紧抓住我们的信仰。 这一节经文说,我们必须“紧紧抓住”。 我们能做到这一点,是因为上帝先紧紧抓住了我们!

Also, we need to have a clear conscience. That is to have short accounts with God, to confess our sins to Him, knowing that we will receive forgiveness.
另外,我们要问心无愧。 那就是与上帝有交代,向他承认我们的罪,知道我们会得到宽恕。

Some Christians or some so-called Christians, have not done these things.
有一些基督徒或一些所谓的基督徒,并没有这么做。

Look at what has happened to them. Their lives are a wreck!
看看他们发生了什么。 他们的生活一塌糊涂像一场灾难!

I hope your life is not a shipwreck。
我希望你的生活不是海难现场。

God bless you,
上帝祝福你,


Keith

Swatch LGBT Watches Seized in Malaysia - Swatch wants them back

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Actually I'm not sure what Swatch was expecting. If you do business in another nation, you're bound by their societal norms and laws there. My country Malaysia is none to "gracious" to open displays of LGBT. That is no secret. That's why for most LGBT Malaysians they keep a low profile. Is it ideal? No, but it what it is.

To openly promote LGBT is asking for trouble. So is it any of a surprise Swatch LGBT watches got confiscated. The fact that they got away with it in previous years does not mean that the government is okay with it. Just so you know Malaysia is 60 - 65% Muslim. They are also quite religious.

One may see it as standing up for the minority LGBT in Malaysia. However the flip side will see it as a disrespect of local customs and sensitivities. What you feel really depends on which side of the fence you're on. But one thing is for certain, it was a foolish move. Malaysians are not ignorant of what is happening in the west. You can bet every last penny that we know of the "displays" in the Pride Marches.

I'm not seeing any chance that Swatch's filing going anywhere. To make things worst for themselves, they have gotten into the radar of the authorities. They will definitely find it harder to import their watches into Malaysia even if the models are not LGBT ones.

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