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Why didn’t Hungary arrest Netanyahu? ICC wants answers

The International Criminal Court (ICC) is seeking answers from Hungary after the country did not comply with an international arrest warrant for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu during his official visit to Budapest earlier this month.

As reported by Telex, according to The Times of Israel, the ICC submitted a formal request for clarification, citing Article 87 of the Rome Statute — a provision that allows the court to challenge countries that obstruct its operations by refusing to cooperate.


Very uneasy about confessing this sin

I know that priests might have "heard it all," but this one, I'm not sure. I honestly don't know how to confess this one without being way too provocative. :sigh: :sigh: I'll never be able to make eye contact with him again. I already missed the already-established-times confessions, so if I find a priest to confess to before EV, they're going to know the face of the person confessing. There's a slim chance that this sin is venial (in the way that I committed it) but it is usually an intrinsic evil.

Why does Col 1:16-20 take a back seat to ECT ?

Col 1:16-20 Because in him were created all things in heaven and on earth, the visible as well as the invisible ( whether Thrones or Lordships or Archons or Powers ) ; all things were created through him and for him; And he is before all things, and all things hold together in him, And he is the head of the body, of the assembly- who is the origin , firstborn from the dead, so that he might himself hold first place in all things- For in him all the Fullness was pleased to take up a dwelling, And through him to reconcile all things to him, making peace by the blood of his cross[ through him], whether the things on the earth or the things in the heavens.
Why do you who hold to ECT believe that your view of scripture trumps this view that God/Jesus will reconcile all that was made to himself ? If even one person is not reconciled then this verse is false. Why do the scriptures that you believe teach ECT trump this and other verses that say God/Jesus will reconcile all things to himself?

King Charles faces criticism over nods to 'Islam, other religious traditions' in Easter message

King Charles has shared an Easter message on Maundy Thursday in which he said that the world still needs "faith, hope and love."

"One of the puzzles of our humanity is how we are capable of both great cruelty and great kindness," he said.

"This paradox of human life runs through the Easter story and in the scenes that daily come before our eyes — at one moment, terrible images of human suffering and, in another, heroic acts in war-torn countries where humanitarians of every kind risk their own lives to protect the lives of others.

Continued below.

If Jesus Were on Earth...

I thought this might be a fun exercise for everyone, to learn from, and question ourselves.
It's quite simple.

All you have to do, is think of something Jesus would be doing, or not doing; believing, or not believing...
State the particular thing. For example... If Jesus were on earth, he would ___________. Then, reference or quote the scriptures, that support the statement.

This gives posters an opportunity to respond, either in agreement, or disagreement, expand on, or just think about.
I have a few things in mind, but will likely post tomorrow.
Let's see what we can learn from Jesus.
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Latest Gallup Poll--Trump has the worst first quarter approval ratings since any WWII president, not once but twice!

He does like to do things big, even failing spectacularly (as he is doing this minute, taking our country along with him.)

Women, who seem to be the most astute of all the demographic groups, approve by only 34% and disapprove by 62%. Proud of my gender.

His approval rating overall is 45% and was 41% in 2017.

All nine presidents since WWII had much higher ratings.

Even the one who came in second worst, Bill Clinton, had a 55% approval rating.

My website in closed nations

Hey a testimony- I have been getting hits on my website (www.heavenandfreedom.com) from nations closed to the gospel such as Iran, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan, there are people in these countries looking at my website! The internet is a stellar tool for sharing the gospel! God just shared this with me, that the internet may be the only way to reach these people, the only way! It may also be the best way! The only alternative would be to go in-person as a missionary but that would be EXTREMELY dangerous. The secret police in these countries are actively hunting for christian missionaries and they are very smart, they know what they are doing! If you are caught doing missionary work in these countries they will haul you out into the town square and chop your head off with a sword! Also conversion from islam to christianity carries the death penalty!

I want one more chance at life. Please. I'm 27.

I've been in pain for months and lost my previous life where I could walk properly. I just want one more chance at life. I'm meeting with a surgeon next week and I need God to give him the wisdom to cure me. I've been in so much pain since December of last year with no end in sight. It's my right foot.. one toe giving me problems.

I went from being happy and very active, to 10 pounds lighter, hopeless, and nearly couch-bound.. at just age 27 facing the fact that my life has probably ended. My mom already buried her own child. I don't want her to lose me too.

I want to play kickball with my friends again. I've been away from this religion for 15 years and this is what brought me back: this injury. I made a mistake by turning my back on God and I'm sorry. I'm suffering, and I don't want to break my mom's heart with my suffering. God is the physician, I need Him. I want Him to also work with my surgeon. Teamwork. This is the realest thing I have ever written. I mean all of this with my own heart.

The State Department is 'streamlining' what it will cover in its report on international human rights

The Trump administration is substantially scaling back the State Department's annual reports on international human rights to remove longstanding critiques of abuses such as harsh prison conditions, government corruption and restrictions on participation in the political process, NPR has learned.

Despite decades of precedent, the reports, which are meant to inform congressional decisions on foreign aid allocations and security assistance, will no longer call governments out for such things as denying freedom of movement and peaceful assembly. They won't condemn retaining political prisoners without due process or restrictions on "free and fair elections."

Forcibly returning a refugee or asylum-seeker to a home country where they may face torture or persecution will no longer be highlighted, nor will serious harassment of human rights organizations.


Well, we wouldn't want them to be hypocrites, would we? And we wouldn't want to make our friends look bad, either.

The Trump administration recently negotiated the transfer of immigrants from the U.S. into El Salvador's notorious prison system. In a draft of the forthcoming report on that country reviewed by NPR, the section on prison conditions is erased.

And we'll get rid of WOKE garbage like criticizing countries for:
  • Extensive gender-based violence.
  • Violence or threats of violence targeting people with disabilities.

No one is going to convince me that this isn't deliberate.

Hi, I can't help it; I know I'm not a genius but I don't think I'm stupid (all the time). I know that this is just way, way too much of a coincidence for this to not be deliberate. I will explain.

Thursday night (last night) we get a call from a relative (who has come over a few times in the past) saying that she, her children, and her brother/brother's children are coming over tomorrow (which is today, Good Friday). My dad "lied" to them and told that we're having company (he's simply drained from so many visits from people like physical/occupational therapy, visiting physicians, etc.), and requested that they schedule it for a different day. So, we see them calling today on our phone but my dad doesn't answer it, and neither do I. I can surmise that they are calling to try to come tomorrow or Sunday. They seem too insistent on coming this weekend and not waiting for at least another week (I'm uncomfortable with the latter too, because that is Divine Mercy Sunday).

Since the date of Good Friday and Easter changes every year, I'm having a very, very hard time believing that the relatives don't know that this is Easter Weekend. I wonder if any relatives already suspect I'm Christian (even if I don't know how this happened). My blood is boiling but we may be able to get out it for this weekend, but not necessarily Divine Mercy Sunday (and no, it's not obligatory but it does not matter to me that it isn't. It's still an infringement upon my rights). My dad is not so sure that it's deliberate but sorry, I can't believe it's not. There's no way they don't know that today is GF or that the weekend is Easter. I don't believe it at all. Sure, I couldn't go to GF Mass, but THEY don't know that I couldn't go and may be assuming that they could get in the way of me going to GF Mass. Now they're on the hunt for tomorrow and even though EV (Easter Vigil) is later in the evening, I was planning to leave the house earlier in order for a priest to hear my confession (and a couple other errands before Mass) and I haven't made a time yet for that. I'm not optimistic I can but I'm intent on it at least.
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US strikes on Yemen oil terminal kill at least 74. Houthis say it was a civilian facility and that the strikes constituted a "war crime".

US air strikes on a key oil terminal on Yemen's Red Sea coast controlled by the Houthi movement have killed at least 74 people and wounded 171 others, the Houthi-run health ministry says.

The US military said it had destroyed Ras Isa "to eliminate this source of fuel for the Iran-backed Houthi terrorists and deprive them of illegal revenue".

The Houthi-led government in north-west Yemen said the terminal was a civilian facility and that the strikes constituted a "war crime".

It was the deadliest known attack since President Donald Trump ordered an intensification of the US bombing campaign last month in response to Houthi attacks on Red Sea shipping and Israel linked to the Gaza war.

Strong prayers please

Please strong prayers for my son Jakeb's mental and physical health. Please pray for healing and his happiness and that nothing is seriously wrong with him. Please pray that we find him the right doctor quickly.The one he has now is horrible. Please ask God to keep him safe and bad thoughts out of his head. Please ask that I can hear his laughter. I'm so scared. All this if it is God's will and in the name of Jesus.Thank you and God bless.

We need to explain HOW God knows the future?

Dr James White said:

I would like to submit that if God created with full and complete knowledge everything that is going to happen in time
Not only that, I believe that God knows everything that could have happened outside of space-time.

you need to then give some reason as to how God has that kind of knowledge.
Emphasis added.

Well, God is omniscient. The way he knows things is beyond our capacity. Is 55:

For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts.
We are not God. We don't know how God possesses such omniscient knowledge.

Romans 11:

33 O, the depth of the riches of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable are His judgments, and untraceable His ways!
Job 11:

7“Can you find out the deep things of God? Can you find out the limit of the Almighty? 8 It is higher than heavenc—what can you do? Deeper than Sheol—what can you know? 9 Its measure is longer than the earth and broader than the sea.
God is omniscient and sovereign. We cannot understand how he does certain things, and he has no obligation to explain how or why he does them.

Do we need to explain how God knows the future?

No, we don't need to. He is God, and we are not.

Do we need to provide a reason for how God has knowledge of the future?

You can try if you want. As for me, I don't know the whys and hows of God, except what he has revealed to us in the Bible. The Bible repeatedly emphasizes that God's infinite mind is beyond our finite human minds.

A Good Friday musing

After finishing reading my daily Lenten meditation: "None of us really knows what we are doing until the outer crucifix becomes the inner revelation of every act of human barbarism, war, torture, starvation, disease, abuse, oppression, injustice, and absurd lives "from the blood of Abel the Holy to the blood of Zechariah whom you killed (Mt 23:35.)...."

I turn on the news and hear Marco Rubio announcing that Trump is getting "impatient" and the US might "move on" from peace efforts...leaving 66 million 'lambs of God' in Ukraine vulnerable to slaughter (for did not Jesus say that we are the lambs and he the Good Shepherd?)


The horror of the news on the holiest day of the year leaves me transfixed with grief.

66 million lives to relieve a president's "impatience?"

Kurt Goedel's Loophole

Kurt Goedel, one of the most brilliant mathematicians of the 20th century, once expressed objections to the US Constitution, because he had fears that it contained a loophole that would allow for a dictatorship.

Unfortunately, we don't know the full details of his argument, merely that he saw internal contradictions in the US Constitution.

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Trump hails 'big progress' in Japan tariff talks

Trump hails 'big progress' in Japan tariff talks


  • Trump jumps in on preliminary talks with trade officials
  • Japan one of the first countries to start tariff negotiations
  • More than 75 countries seeking deals, Washington says
  • Exchange rates not part of talks, Tokyo's negotiator says
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Scientist Claims Jesus' Body Found in a Secret Chamber

I saw this news story the other day. I was going to put it in tansy's Pope thread as it seemed on the same level of idea. Will it be a real sign of the Second Coming? Or just make a new controversial thread?

You can do a news search and find articles like this:

Jesus Christ's body found? Scientist claims it is lying in a secret chamber under Great Pyramid

Jesus Christ's body and the Ark of the Covenant are hidden inside the Great Pyramid of Giza, a scientist has claimed. British anthropologist Dr Warner says that the two historical artefacts are placed within the "Cave of the Patriarchs", a secret chamber underneath the pyramid.​
Warner says that Christ's tomb and the Ark of the Covenant are kept inside a double-cave sealed off by a huge stone block. This cave is near one particular tunnel called the Southern Passageway. He says that the final stone block of the tunnel is not where the structure ends. Warner claims that his years of surveying have revealed the presence of man-made structures beyond this point.​

He is sure that something else is hidden under the pyramid, and he claims they are the sarcophagus of Jesus Christ and the legendary Ark of the Covenant. The latter is a sacred, gold-plated wooden chest that has been mentioned in Christianity and Judaism and is said to carry the Ten Commandments given to Moses by God.​

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I mainly find this interesting as Jesus had previously said in Matthew 24:26:

"Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not."​

Then the next thing that happens, in the next verse:

"For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.​

We already know the Ark of His Covenant is already in Heaven waiting to be revealed at the 7th Trumpet in Revelation 11:

"Then God's temple in heaven was opened, and the ark of His covenant was seen within His temple."​

And we already know Jesus' body is gone. He has risen. All we have here is His Shroud:


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Still it's sort of spooky they'd be coming out with an article of Jesus being in a "secret chamber", out in the desert, just before Easter Sunday.

Jesus is Lord.

Trump, Italian leader express confidence U.S.-E.U. trade deal will be reached

Trump, Italian leader express confidence U.S.-E.U. trade deal will be reached


Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni and President Donald Trump each expressed optimism Thursday that negotiations between the United States and the European Union would lead to a trade deal before the end of Trump’s 90-day pause on some tariffs.

Good Friday

What does Jesus’s sacrifice mean?
The disciples must have wondered that—probably more than once—and so, in his own way, did Paul, chasing after them before he ever joined them.

These days, the word sacrifice gets used in all sorts of ways. Usually it means giving something up: something valuable, in order to help someone else. Or maybe giving up one thing to gain another you value more. Sometimes it means suffering for others, a kind of altruism.

But that’s not quite what it meant originally—not in a religious sense.

The word sacrifice comes from the Latin sacrificium, a combination of sacer (holy, sacred) and facere (to do, to make). So at its root, it means “to make holy” or “to do a sacred act.” It’s about offering something to the divine—not just giving something up, but setting it apart, dedicating it. That’s the deeper, older idea.

And when we lose sight of that—when we think of sacrifice only in terms of transaction, loss, or exchange—I think we miss something. Maybe we miss both the joy and the challenge. Maybe even the truth.

So here’s a thought: what if God didn’t sacrifice His son in the way we often imagine? I don’t think that language makes sense within the framework of Jesus’s own religion, or that of his disciples. It’s more the language of chess players, businessmen, athletes.

What we’re actually told—famously, in John 3:16—is that God gave His son. Gave him to the world. And gave him for a purpose. That purpose was (and still is) to be our sacrifice to God. The Bible calls it the “propitiation” for our sins—a holy offering that bridges the distance between God and humanity. So that even though we die, we may live—abundantly.

It echoes, doesn’t it, the story of Abraham? The moment God provides the lamb to be offered in place of Isaac. Abraham didn’t need to offer his son after all. God provided the offering.

And I believe God still provides. I believe God suffers with us—every sorrow, every cry of anguish. That divine love is not distant from Jesus’s pain, or from the pain of anyone, anywhere. So when God gives His son, there must be, in some divine way, sorrow in the giving.

But that’s different from sacrificing him in the human sense. Jesus becomes our offering—if we accept it. If we believe. But what does that really mean? How do we make Jesus our offering?

Paul encouraged the early Christians to offer up their whole selves—not just in the physical sense, but their mortal, passing, ego-driven selves—as a kind of holy service. He called it their “reasonable” act of worship. In John’s Gospel, when the disciples asked Jesus, “What must we do to do the works God requires?” Jesus answered simply:
“The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”

Belief is a doing word. Even just saying it, quietly, is an action. So maybe there isn’t a hard divide between faith and works. Maybe they’re the same thing. Faith is works, and works is faith.

The surprising thing is that this sacrifice—this act of offering—often turns out not to be as painful as we fear. It might begin with a letting go of things we thought were protecting us: pride, fear, panic, shame. Sometimes what we’re giving up is the pain itself. And in exchange, we discover life. A more real life. Abundant life. Eternal life. A spiritual life that somehow feels more solid than the one we’re trying to hold together.

Of course, for some, the cost is much higher. Across parts of Africa, the Middle East, and Asia, many Christians have paid with their lives—killed for their faith by militant ideologies and oppressive regimes. Their offering is everything. By contrast, the sacrifices asked of us in the West may seem small. But they’re still real.

And I think this is what the cross means. That Jesus becomes our offering to God—not because God demanded it, but because God gave it. And we, in turn, follow him. Through the death of the self. Into a life more alive than the one we leave behind. Toward an ascension into something beyond our sight.
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Safe San Salvador

We're planning a mission trip to Guatemala (I won't be involved--have a sick husband and can't leave him to his own devices for two weeks.

And so tonight I told my friend, "Please fly through Guatemala City, not San Salvador. I'm so worried about everyone's safety in that country--after all, look what happens in Russia, where people are arrested for being journalists."
Our mission site is closer to San Salvador than Guatemala City.
So my friend tells me, "I'm sort of afraid, too, but ________________ traveled there with her dad recently and said crime has disappeared. The downside is that heavily armed police are on every single corner."
I don't know about you, but if the price of getting rid of gangs is turning a country into a repressive police state, I don't think it's worth it.
And the scariest thing is that that could be my hometown--or yours--in a year. They're not after criminals. They're after democracy.

Rubio suggests US will drop Ukraine-Russia peace efforts if no progress made in days


During his presidential campaign, Trump said he could force Russian President Vladimir Putin and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy to stop fighting within 24 hours of his return to the Oval Office on January 20. The US later extended that deadline until Trump's first 100 days in office, which ends on April 30. Now it looks like this may not be achieved at all.

King Solomon's 1000+ wives and concubines, etc

I was wondering if God had any problem with King Solomon having 700 wives of royal birth and 300 concubines... (1 Kings 11:3)

Verse 4 says
As Solomon grew older, his wives turned his heart toward other gods. He didn’t follow the Lord his God with all his heart. So he wasn’t like his father David.
I think in the Old Testament the only passage somewhat against polygamy is:
Deuteronomy 17:16-17
The king, moreover, must not acquire great numbers of horses for himself or make the people return to Egypt to get more of them, for the Lord has told you, “You are not to go back that way again.” He must not take many wives, or his heart will be led astray. He must not accumulate large amounts of silver and gold.
So King Solomon disobeyed that and his heart was led astray. I'm not sure if God punished Solomon for that though.

In the New Testament the Romans outlawed polygamy and I think that's the reason why our culture also did that. Though apparently Herod the Great had multiple wives "permitted under Jewish custom".

Note characters in the Old Testament with multiple wives include:
Abraham
David
Esau
Ezra
Gideon
Jacob
Moses
Saul

I was also wondering if all 700 really were of "royal birth".

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