TwinCrier said:
And someone killed during a hunting accident is related to this how?
#1You were attempting to assert that it is not pregnancy that kills sometimes but the results of that pregnancy (not pregnancy but bleeding remember?)
#2 I was showing the fallacy of your argument by making an analogy with someone who lost their life as a result of being shot in the head.
#3The point I made was that, if your contention was true that pregnancy was not responsible for the deaths of those who die in childbirth, then the same logic would mean that a bullet did not kill a person who had been shot in the head, but that the persons brain matter exiting the skull is what killed them.
#4Then you accused me of equating pregnancy with a violent crime.
#5 I pointed out that I was not even thinking of a violent crime at the time I made the analogy, Instead I was thinking of a man who died as the result of a hunting accident. Thus could not possibly be equating pregnancy with a violent crime.
Your wife's condition is not a disease.... but pregnancy is?
My wife's condition is more appropriately called an injury. I suppose if you want to use the most broad definition of disease it fits but most of those involved in healthcare would not.
I never said that pregnancy was a disease. Now there is another strawman argument.
Mark 7:15 There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him: but the things which come out of him, those are they that defile the man.
This applies to birth control how?
Only married people are commanded to reproduced, and to refer to it as breeding like we are some beasts is again degrading to pregnancy and procreation. It is sad that the sex act has been exalted but having babies is looked on with disgust.
#1 No where in scripture does it say that ALL married people are to reproduce.
#2 Breeding is a clinical term if you don't like it, I can avoid it. No offense was intended.
#3 I never said the sex act was to be exalted.
#4 I never said that I looked upon having babies with disgust and there is nothing that I have posted that would lead any reasonable person to believe I do.
If your story is in fact true, certainly you will share this condition that causes your wife to die upon pregnancy so that other woman can be warned and not lose their own lives in an attempt to have children.
Nice try but my wife's personal medical history is not mine to share. Any woman who has the same condition (suffered the same injury with the same results) most likely would be told by their physician the same thing my wife was told.
As a closer I would point out to you that a presumption of honesty is necessary in debate. No where have I questioned your honesty. When you implied that I had been dishonest I pointed out to you (and provided evidence) that I had previously posted the same information about my circumstance before I came to this thread and, I believe, even before this thread began; a fact you have yet to acknowledge even though it is easily verified. There is no benefit for me to contrive some made up condition. I have done nothing here to deserve being accused of deception. Why do you have to resort to an ad hominem tactic? We disagree, you believe scripture says something that I do not believe is says. There are a number of different Christians on this board that I have disagreed with in the past, I have not contrived some "circumstance" in order to make a point with them. Why would you believe I would do so with you? To be honest it isn't that important to me that you agree. This is not, in my opinion, a matter of saving faith so what possible reason would I have to lie?
