your thoughts on aliens/ extra terrestials?

[lesliedellow]

No need to guess, we can look in His word to man and read. No aliens. Go figure. There are angels and demons though. The evidence mounts.

The Bible says nothing about America. Therefore America doesn't exist.

Methinks you had better find yourself a new home.

 

[dad]

The Bible says nothing about America. Therefore America doesn't exist.

Methinks you had better find yourself a new home.

I don't want to get into the US in Scripture. I think it is in there, and could be a part of the final order, or at least help get it rolling.

That does not mean that aliens exist.

 

[PsychoSarah]

I don't want to get into the US in Scripture. I think it is in there, and could be a part of the final order, or at least help get it rolling.

That does not mean that aliens exist.

Are you becoming Mormon now dad? did Adam and Eve suddenly move to the states? Then again, Mormons do believe in alien life.

 

[dad]

Are you becoming Mormon now dad? did Adam and Eve suddenly move to the states? Then again, Mormons do believe in alien life.

No. I am not Mormon. As for where Eden was I have my guess, no one really knows. I suspect that it was near Jerusalem in Israel! remember that Eden was before the rapid separation of continents, so we would not look only at the current location and courses of the Tigris and Euphrates etc! In fact I would be surprised if the bird that brought an olive leaf back to the ark, did not get it from what later became the mount of Olives! After all a bird flies a long ways. That was likely also before the separation of continents so the Ararat region was close

 

[PsychoSarah]

No. I am not Mormon. As for where Eden was I have my guess, no one really knows. I suspect that it was near Jerusalem in Israel! remember that Eden was before the rapid separation of continents, so we would not look only at the current location and courses of the Tigris and Euphrates etc! In fact I would be surprised if the bird that brought an olive leaf back to the ark, did not get it from what later became the mount of Olives! After all a bird flies a long ways. That was likely also before the separation of continents so the Ararat region was close

I think it is more likely to have been a bit further west into Africa, seeing as the earliest human artifacts and societies were more in that region.

 

[dad]

I think it is more likely to have been a bit further west into Africa, seeing as the earliest human artifacts and societies were more in that region.

No. Looking at models of where land was Africa was right there, close by. That could mean that Ham simply went furthest first. Eden was long before that!!

 

[PsychoSarah]

No. Looking at models of where land was Africa was right there, close by. That could mean that Ham simply went furthest first. Eden was long before that!!

I said that is where we see the forts societies, the earliest artifacts are found further away from the Middle East than the first societies are.

 

[dad]

I said that is where we see the forts societies, the earliest artifacts are found further away from the Middle East than the first societies are.

Example? Let's see what you are thinking about exactly.

Who says that they build cities first in the area of the ark? Some say at least one of Noah's sons went to what is Egypt for example.

 

[PsychoSarah]

Example? Let's see what you are thinking about exactly.

Who says that they build cities first in the area of the ark? Some say at least one of Noah's sons went to what is Egypt for example.

I am thinking of tools such as spears and bows and arrows. Remember, where Noah and his family ended up would have necessarily matched up with the general area that Adam and Eve were, so what they did after the flood or where they ended up living has no relationship with it. There were people before Noah, and they had to live somewhere. On the ark Noah could have drifted quite far from his original location.

 

[dad]

I am thinking of tools such as spears and bows and arrows.

Ah. All that could denote is where the pioneers and hunters went first! Probably following animals and weather were factors.

Remember, where Noah and his family ended up would have necessarily matched up with the general area that Adam and Eve were, so what they did after the flood or where they ended up living has no relationship with it.

We do not know where the Gps (God's positioning system) steered them! It makes sense to me that it was somewhat close to the same place or area. Abraham sacrificed on the same mount Jesus was killed probably for example.

There were people before Noah, and they had to live somewhere. On the ark Noah could have drifted quite far from his original location.

If the world was shoved over and uplifted and mountain building and new oceans and etc etc..we would not have remains of the pre flood folks under our feet. If they could not fossilize, we would not even have that!

Noah never drifted, He was in God's care. It was a pinpoint operation, timed impeccably and carried out in space and on earth and under the earth all on cue!

I understand how the evo mindset tends to invoke random chaos, and chance...but no.

 

[PsychoSarah]

Ah. All that could denote is where the pioneers and hunters went first! Probably following animals and weather were factors.


We do not know where the Gps (God's positioning system) steered them! It makes sense to me that it was somewhat close to the same place or area. Abraham sacrificed on the same mount Jesus was killed probably for example.

If the world was shoved over and uplifted and mountain building and new oceans and etc etc..we would not have remains of the pre flood folks under our feet. If they could not fossilize, we would not even have that!

Noah never drifted, He was in God's care. It was a pinpoint operation, timed impeccably and carried out in space and on earth and under the earth all on cue!

I understand how the evo mindset tends to invoke random chaos, and chance...but no.

We know the location (sort of) of where the ark ended up after the flood; a named mountain. I would say there is a good chance the ark didn't start out at the top of a mountain. Plus, perhaps it was god's plan for Noah to end up in a different location than where he started.

 

[dad]

We know the location (sort of) of where the ark ended up after the flood; a named mountain.

No! It was the mountains of an area called Ararat. It was also probably before big mountains existed, and the uplift, mountain building, etc. It was also at a time when Israel would be close to that area presumably.

I would say there is a good chance the ark didn't start out at the top of a mountain.

It was on a mountain. However after that time we likely saw mountain building and uplift, so it could have been buried, or lifted a lot higher!

Plus, perhaps it was god's plan for Noah to end up in a different location than where he started.

Maybe. Maybe not.

 

[PsychoSarah]

No! It was the mountains of an area called Ararat. It was also probably before big mountains existed, and the uplift, mountain building, etc. It was also at a time when Israel would be close to that area presumably.


It was on a mountain. However after that time we likely saw mountain building and uplift, so it could have been buried, or lifted a lot higher!


Maybe. Maybe not.

Wherever the ark started out was not a mountain before the flood, how about that? Noah was strong for his age, but that poor old man wouldn't have survived the added stress on his body of lifting materials that far uphill combined with the thinner atmosphere at the tops of mountains.

 

[dad]

Wherever the ark started out was not a mountain before the flood, how about that?

Yes it was according to the bible. How about that?

Noah was strong for his age, but that poor old man wouldn't have survived the added stress on his body of lifting materials that far uphill combined with the thinner atmosphere at the tops of mountains.

The mountains were not that high before mountain building and uplift and continental separation. Breathe easy.

 

[NannaNae]

is there life on other planets ?

that depends on if you use your or God's definitions of "life"!
those pearly gates came from someplace not here! pearls are a process made from clams.
so what kind of clam is that anyway and where is their oceans with enough food to support those clams that big !
but your asking if "aliens" or " inter-dimensional travelers" are " real" ?
"real " is subjective and based on human's knowledge .. and about what you trust most.

 

[PsychoSarah]

is there life on other planets ?

that depends on if you use your or God's definitions of "life"!
those pearly gates came from someplace not here! pearls are a process made from clams.
so what kind of clam is that anyway and where is their oceans with enough food to support those clams that big !
but your asking if "aliens" or " inter-dimensional travelers" are " real" ?
"real " is subjective and based on human's knowledge .. and about what you trust most.

I trust that statistically it is likely that life exists elsewhere.

 

[NannaNae]

and odds are that is all up into your definitions of life.

 

[dad]

I trust that statistically it is likely that life exists elsewhere.

That depends on if God created the life. If He did, and made it on stars, that was in creation week. Since the stars willl fall, and a new heavens come one day, it makes no sense to have life in deep space in this universe. (except the fallen angels temporarily)

 

[PsychoSarah]

That depends on if God created the life. If He did, and made it on stars, that was in creation week. Since the stars willl fall, and a new heavens come one day, it makes no sense to have life in deep space in this universe. (except the fallen angels temporarily)

Considering how big the universe is, I would think that it was a bit excessive if only one tiny planet was going to have life.

 

[dad]

Considering how big the universe is, I would think that it was a bit excessive if only one tiny planet was going to have life.

That is how important we really are!! God is moving here Himself one day forever!