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It is impossible to prove Christianity to an atheist. Only the Holy Spirit can convict someone. That is why most of these discussions are fruitless.

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You don't know that to be so.

More likely, it is a record of how some churches operated a century after Christ. That doesn't make it legalism unless someone turns it into that (which some have); it doesn't make everything in the document be in accord with Scripture; and it doesn't make it the work of an imposter.
 
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You see it for yourself then. So, these legalist would declare the baptism of Philippi's jailor null and void because it was not per their "you shall order the baptized to fast"???

And this is not the only thing of course: there are plenty more examples where this piece is wrong. If it were really what it claims to be: why did the Church never include it with the canon???
 
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It is impossible to prove Christianity to an atheist. Only the Holy Spirit can convict someone. That is why most of these discussions are fruitless.

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That is True. Can it also help us interpret the Scriptures? Do I go by the Catholics, Orthodox or Protestants view of them?

[NKJV] Zeph 1:15 That day [is] a day of wrath, A day of trouble and distress, A day of devastation and desolation, A day of darkness and gloominess, A day of clouds and thick darkness, 16 A day of trumpet and alarm Against the fortified cities And against the high towers.
17 "I will bring distress upon men, And they shall walk like blind men, Because they have sinned against the LORD;

http://www.davieapostolicchurch.com/studies/destuct/

.................Before their final demolition, however, Titus took a survey of the city and its fortifications ; and, while contemplating their impregnable strength, could not help ascribing his success to the peculiar interposition of the ALMIGHTY HIMSELF. "Had not God himself (exclaimed he) aided out operations, and driven the Jews from their fortresses, it would have been absolutely impossible to have taken them ; for what could men, and the force of engines, have done against such towers as these ?"
 
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You see it for yourself then. So, these legalist would declare the baptism of Philippi's jailor null and void because it was not per their "you shall order the baptized to fast"???

What part of my post did you not understand? Fasting is the ideal. Where is the legalism in this?

And this is not the only thing of course: there are plenty more examples where this piece is wrong. If it were really what it claims to be: why did the Church never include it with the canon???

So, in order for anything to be True, it has to be in the Scriptures? Talk about being legalistic.

Love,
Christina
 
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So, in order for anything to be True, it has to be in the Scriptures? Talk about being legalistic.

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That is my view.

John 11:48 "If ever we may be letting Him thus, all shall be believing into Him, and shall be coming the Romans and they shall be taking away of us and the Place and the Nation.

Reve 6:6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four living creatures saying, "A quart of wheat for a denari/dhnariou <1220>, and three quarts of barley for a denari; and do not harm the oil and the wine."
 
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It is an imposter. Because the title claim is this: "The teachings of the Lord" and they're clearly not.

It is legalism because of the content: the "thou shalt"'s are abundant!

It might very well be a document that attests to how the church operated then. That doesn't mean their operations correct.....
 
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The Scriptures have already been interpreted, LLoJ.

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Christina


Malachi 3:2 and who enduring the Day of coming of Him, and who the one Standing in the to appear Him. That He as fire of refiner and as soap of launderers.
 
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And let me guess: that makes Tradition the "fulness of truth"???
Ya ever notice the Orthodox and Catholics do not post much Scripture? How come?
 
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Limiting where the Holy Trinity is expressed is a form of legalism. You are containing the Great "I AM" in the testimony of Scripture.
 
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Limiting where the Holy Trinity is expressed is a form of legalism. You are containing the Great "I AM" in the testimony of Scripture.


Exodus 3:12 And He is saying: "That I Shall Be/01961 hayah with thee, and this for thee the-Sign that I sent thee in to bring forth you the people out of Egypt. Ye shall serve The-'Elohiym on the Mountain, the-this.'
13 And- Mosheh -is-saying to The-'Elohiym, "Lo, I coming to sons of Yisra'el, and I say to them, 'Elohiym of your fathers He sends me to you'. And they have said to me, 'What Name of Him'? What shall I say to them"?
14 And 'Elohiym is saying to Mosheh, "I-shall-be/01961 hayah who I-shall-be/01961 hayah". And-He saying "Thus you shall say to sons of Yisra'el, 'I-shall-be/01961 hayah, He-sent-me unto-you'".
 
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