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[LittleLambofJesus]

The Holy Trinity is the fullness of Truth.

So how do we tell who has the Holy Spirit?

 

[Asinner]

Where is this supposed "fulness of Truth"?

See post #317

 

[Asinner]

So how do we tell who has the Holy Spirit?

Those that are likened to Jesus Christ.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Those that are likened to Jesus Christ.

And what do the Scriptures say about that?

Reve 22:6 And he said to me: "These, the Words faithful and true, and the Lord, the God of the spirits of the prophets commissions the messenger of him to show to the bondservents of him which things is binding to be becoming/genesqai <1096> (5635) in swiftness.

 

[holdon]

See post #317

Then the Didache is NOT part of it.

 

[Asinner]

Then the Didache is NOT part of it.

Yes, it is an expression of Truth.

 

[holdon]

Yes, it is an expression of Truth.

It may contain some truth, but if it contains error (which it does) AND claims to be of the Lord, it is just a piece of errant writing. The devil speaks truth too....

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Then the Didache is NOT part of it.

Would that be likened to the Catholic Catechism which they use to help interpret the Bible?

 

[Asinner]

The devil speaks truth too....

He is the father of lies. There is no truth in the devil, only darkness.

 

[holdon]

Would that be likened to the Catholic Catechism which they use to help interpret the Bible?

Even the Pope would not dare calling their Catechism part of the Bible..... Think about it.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Even the Pope would not dare calling their Catechism part of the Bible..... Think about it.

Case closed then.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

He is the father of lies. There is no truth in the devil, only darkness.

And the ruler of the Death and Hades.

http://www.scripture4all.org/

John 8:44 `Ye out of a father, the Devil/dia-bolou <1228> are, and the desires/epiqumiaV <1939> of the father of ye, ye are willing to be doing.
That one a man-killer was from beginning and in the truth not has stood, that not is truth in him.
Whenever he may be talking, the falsehood out of the own/P he is talking, that a falsifier he is and the father of it.

Hebrews 2:14 Therefore then, the children have partaken of flesh and blood, and He in like manner did partake to the same, that thru the Death He might take-away the one having the power of the Death--that is, the Devil/dia-bolon <1228>

 

[simonthezealot]

I have been reading a book called Blue like Jazz, by Donald Miller. I doubt it's circulated among Catholics and EO much. But that aside, it is a brilliant piece of writing.

something in the book struck a cord with me, regarding the religious observances of Christians, and their place in our lives. And the more and more and more I read it, the more I realized one of the primary reasons I simply cannot accept the claims of some of the churches out there, why I could not see myself being what they are, or doing what they do.

Having a somewhat relativist nature as you appear to UB, I would not recommend putting much weight into emergent type writings such as Millers stuff.
Just my opinion take it for what it's worth.

 

[Rdr Iakovos]

Ya ever notice the Orthodox and Catholics do not post much Scripture? How come?

Actually, I've noticed quite the opposite. I see each- Protestant, Catholic, and Orthodox- appealing to their own tradition and epistemology, while citing scripture that confirms, or is deemed to confirm, their particular paradigm.

Stating otherwise is empty triumphalism.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Actually, I've noticed quite the opposite. I see each- Protestant, Catholic, and Orthodox- appealing to their own tradition and epistemology, while citing scripture that confirms, or is deemed to confirm, their particular paradigm.

Stating otherwise is empty triumphalism.

Why of course. How silly of me to presume otherwise.

2 Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of the Age/aiwnoV <165>, this, hath-blinded the minds of the faithless into the no to shine forth of-them the enlightening of the Good-News of the glory of the Christ, who is an image of the God/YHWH;

Matthew 24:3 He is yet sitting on the mount of the Olives, the disciples toward-came to Him according to own, saying, `Tell us, when shall these be? and what the Sign of the Thy parousiaV <3952>, and of the together-finish/sun-teleiaV <4930> of the Age/aiwnoV <165>?'

 

[sunlover1]

By the book? Passover is to be one of the most relaxed ceremonies that Jews had been given to celebrate. It is the celebration of their emancipation from slavery in Egypt.

The last thing they wanted to do was to get bogged down with a slavery to details. Since Jews today are not regenerate, it does not resemble the type of atmosphere that took place at the Last Supper. A Sedar which consisted of all born again Jews (minus Judas).

Passover has a protocol to it. Some details are exacting, of course. But it is to be very relaxed. There is a spoken tradition during the Sedar that even asks why we drink more wine than usual on that night. Hardly liturgical. Save that for the Day of Atonement.

Jews back then had various joyous celebrations and even dancing in many festivals. That is, until later years after the Pharisee's in Jesus day had turned Judaism into a dead religion. And, it was evident also during various times of Jewish apostasy. Those Jewish celebrations had also became by rote.



Ritual without reality is religion. Christianity is NOT a religion. Its about having a growing living relationship with the Father, through Christ.

Certain denominations have turned Christianity into a religion, and many today assume that its Christianity. But, true Christianity back then met in the homes of believers, with men who had been given the gift to teach, leading worship and Bible study. It was informal. It was relaxed because those who taught were competent to teach. Not simply having the gift of gab like many "preacher boys" are like today.

As a young Jew growing up, one of the criticisms I heard about Christianity (as they saw it), was about how stiff they are in ceremony. Of course, that spoke mostly in reference to legalism and religion in the name of Christ they had been exposed to.

Legalism is a vain willful attempt to fill in the vacuum in the soul that is caused by a lack of spiritual fulfillment. A fulfillment that could only come by acquiring a sound knowledge of truth, and understanding of that truth by grace.

Legalism in contrast, is a willful attempt to provide for self meaning to one's meaninglessness. Legalism produces at best, pseudo fulfillment.

Its an system which is devised by men to implore others to become preoccupied with achieving certain promoted goals, as to get men's minds off of their emptiness, and onto seeking the approval of others by achieving certain prescribed goals.

Jesus hated legalism and dead formality. He wanted to show us how to have a relationship with the Father through himself.

Most Christianity does not even come close. They speak of Jesus as if he were standing afar. What Jesus wanted us to grow into, was to be able to look inside and to discover he's there.

He is the Word that was made flesh. We need the Word hidden in our hearts in order to have in our spirit what is needed for Christ to reveal Himself to us. For we can only see Christ through his Word. The Spirit without us having truth learned can only groan for us.

Ritual and liturgy can not reveal Christ to believers. Its can only promote primitive religious feelings and drives which are innate to men who now invoke the name of Christ, for what used to be directed towards pagan gods.

I do not know why I got onto this ramble... But, I know I was suppose to.

Ramble switch off.


Grace and peace, GeneZ




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Amen.
(Red highlighting is mine)
It's All about Jesus!

 

[Rdr Iakovos]

Why of course. How silly of me to presume otherwise.

2 Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of the Age/aiwnoV <165>, this, hath-blinded the minds of the faithless into the no to shine forth of-them the enlightening of the Good-News of the glory of the Christ, who is an image of the God/YHWH;

Matthew 24:3 He is yet sitting on the mount of the Olives, the disciples toward-came to Him according to own, saying, `Tell us, when shall these be? and what the Sign of the Thy parousiaV <3952>, and of the together-finish/sun-teleiaV <4930> of the Age/aiwnoV <165>?'

Point of necessity:
I see the non-traditionists defending their non-tradition tradition with greater fervor than those who defend tradition.

Such is human nature, and NONE are immune from it.

To be free from it is not even a worthy or attainable goal. A worthy goal is to be aware of one's own limitations and prejudices, imo.

 

[sunlover1]

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who'd report this post???????
I'm SO confused.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

who'd report this post???????
I'm SO confused.

Don't know. If someone wants to use Steve for my name, it wouldn't bother me in the least.
Guess I need to read the rules again. Sigh.

edit to add: though I wouldn't have minded if the reporter PM'd me about it first instead of reporting it

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

you'll hate this thread, I guarantee it.

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