you will be judged even if decieved

[He is Risen 72]

And they are all burning in eternal hellfire for their defiance of the Risen Lord Jesus.

 

[SteveB28]

And they are all burning in eternal hellfire for their defiance of the Risen Lord Jesus.

And, according to the devotees of Norse mythology, Thor will cave your head in with his mighty hammer for eternity, due to your brazen blasphemy...

I think that's an epistemological stalemate....

 

[jayem]

You are confusing the condition with the cause.

When I sit down my bones and muscles move in the way of sitting... but I make the choice to sit down, and I am the controller of this action.

Love is a similar story.

And what is the origin of the choice to sit down? Your brain, right? Let's say you've been loading furniture. Lactic acid builds up in your muscles. Receptors in the muscles send nerve impulses to your brain. It processes this information and as a result you feel sore and tired. Your visual cortex receives input from your eyes that an object is nearby. The size and shape are characteristic of what your brain has learned is a chair. All this information is ultimately analyzed by your pre-frontal cortex, and it makes the decision to sit down and rest. It's all a function of neural networks in the brain responding to internal and external stimuli. Which are natural, physiologic processes. And being attracted to another person, and developing feelings of affection and love is the same thing. It originates in the brain as a response to receiving stimuli related to that person.

All I'm saying is that these are functions of the brain that have natural physiologic mechanisms. Do you disagree?

 

[createdtoworship]

You don't even know who Thor is.....!??

I tell you friend....it's straight to Helheim for you...wouldn't want to be in your shoes...!

I am sure the legend can be traced back to one of the three children on noah.

power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

one of noah's sons was zeroaster, the founder of black magic. (shem I believe)

 

[bhsmte]

For a long time I believed God will never judge those who don't know about him.

but given the law of nature* innate in our mental instincts.

Even if we are deceived it appears God will still judge* us.

source: (adam and eve being deceived still rejected from the garden).

so this motive that satan can deceive man in a way that makes God curse his creation, has been the motive of satan for thousands of years.

But I used to try to sugar coat my ideas, that the pigmi's in africa never heard the Gospel and would be safe.

but the truth is, that via deception of the prince of the air, the chances are not looking good for them.

hence this motive led one of the greatest missionary movements of our time.

1789-1914 the great missionary era.

We are no longer in a missionary era, and that is unfortunate.

what are your thoughts.

Footnotes:

*law of nature, as explained by CS lewis (explanation of this is allowed on this thread)
**Judgement - great white throne judgement, of all wrong doings: Revelation 20:12-14: "12 And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God, and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books. 13 The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works.14 Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death."


(note:now, one can argue that eve was the one deceived and not adam. Meaning that either He KNEW what was happening, and chose to do it anyway. Which begs the question when we are deceived, if deep inside, if we REALLY are suppressing the truth for a lie.)

see truth decay in OP

Opinion

 

[ToddNotTodd]

I am sure the legend can be traced back to one of the three children on noah.

power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

one of noah's sons was zeroaster, the founder of black magic. (shem I believe)

And the legend of Noah can probably be traced back as well...

 

[createdtoworship]

Opinion

well....to objectively refute my opinion.

either give your own opinion....

or...please state objectively how love can evolve from slime in the earth.

in other wise, compassion for others is not something that is bioavailable.

you cannot mix chemicals in a beaker, with a bunsen burner and create love.

love is supernatural.

 

[ToddNotTodd]

love is supernatural.

Opinion.

 

[Eudaimonist]

what are your thoughts.

Mainly that you just make Christianity look bad.

Blaming people for an honest difference of opinion just makes God look like a moral monster.

Imagine that an alien species loves direct democracy. We on Earth don't practice direct democracy. The alien species decides to exterminate the human species because obviously we deserve it for not practicing direct democracy. Nevermind that there might be honest disagreement over that issue, and in many cases people don't even know what direct democracy is.


eudaimonia,

Mark

 

[bhsmte]

well....to objectively refute my opinion.

either give your own opinion....

or...please state objectively how love can evolve from slime in the earth.

in other wise, compassion for others is not something that is bioavailable.

you cannot mix chemicals in a beaker, with a bunsen burner and create love.

love is supernatural.

Why dont you first support your opinion, with evidence, as opposed to shifting the burden.

 

[createdtoworship]

Opinion.

well with no argument from side either way, on your part...

I will "love" to have my own opinions about "love"

what is your opinion about it?

Love is contagious, it's like a virus.

so when God shed his love on the world, we caught the love bug.

and have been loving each other as a result.

but putting it in a testube and nuking it for a few minutes will not produce love. So you have no argument.

 

[SteveB28]

I am sure the legend can be traced back to one of the three children on noah.

power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

one of noah's sons was zeroaster, the founder of black magic. (shem I believe)

And there you would be totally wrong....what a surprise.

There is no link at all between the Norse gods and those of the Jews.

 

[HitchSlap]

well with no argument from side either way, on your part...

I'll give it a go.

I will "love" to have my own opinions about "love"

We all do.

what is your opinion about it?

Most experts suggest "love" is a highly developed emotion, evolved from a need/desire to form strong bonds and relationships, ensuring species survival.

Love is contagious, it's like a virus.

No doubt "love" can be used to one's advantage, and many poets and artists have used metaphor to describe it's attributes.

so when God shed his love on the world,

Depends on how you look at it. I just Googled "how many children go missing each year," and the first hit stated about 800,000 children per year.

we caught the love bug.

Agreed. Theists have done some wonderful things, as well as heinous things, all in the name of loving god/s.

and have been loving each other as a result.

See above response.

but putting it in a testube and nuking it for a few minutes will not produce love.

You got me there.

So you have no argument.

I'll let you be the judge of that.

 

[createdtoworship]

Why dont you first support your opinion, with evidence, as opposed to shifting the burden.

I gave my evidence.

it's an argument from silence yes, but it is better than believing love can evolve in a testube under the right conditions.

you still have yet to describe where exactly love comes from (if not from God)

 

[createdtoworship]

And there you would be totally wrong....what a surprise.

There is no link at all between the Norse gods and those of the Jews.

this is prejudaism, pre abraham, isaac and jacob.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

love can evolve in a testube under the right conditions.

THAT is so incredibly ICKKK! even just reading it!
Besides, as you already know, being absolutely and totally contrary to YHWH'S WORD!

 

[HitchSlap]

I gave my evidence.

Ok.

it's an argument from silence yes,

Which is really not an argument. I'm sure you understand why.

but it is better than believing love can evolve in a testube under the right conditions.

I agree with you, it's absurd to think you could "evolve" an emotion over a Bunsen burner or an agar plate.

you still have yet to describe where exactly love comes from (if not from God)

"Love," like any other emotion, is a result of tens of thousands of years of evolution. An emotion that most experts agree that evolved out of a need/desire to strengthen family/group bonds, and thereby promoting species survival.

 

[createdtoworship]

"Love," like any other emotion, is a result of tens of thousands of years of evolution. An emotion that most experts agree that evolved out of a need/desire to strengthen family/group bonds, and thereby promoting species survival.

opinion.

(as you have no sources).

Am I right?

 

[HitchSlap]

opinion

(as you have no sources)

Does it sound like a reasonable opinion?

 

[createdtoworship]

Mainly that you just make Christianity look bad.

Blaming people for an honest difference of opinion just makes God look like a moral monster.

Imagine that an alien species loves direct democracy. We on Earth don't practice direct democracy. The alien species decides to exterminate the human species because obviously we deserve it for not practicing direct democracy. Nevermind that there might be honest disagreement over that issue, and in many cases people don't even know what direct democracy is.


eudaimonia,

Mark

is the difference of opinion honest though?

Only God knows.

So his judgment is right.

We know by His written words. The Bible.