Yahshua

[Reformed2]

What does that have to do with 1 John 2:22?

You have denied that Jesus is God Himself. Please read the New Testament in its entirety.

 

[gadar perets]

You have denied that Jesus is God Himself. Please read the New Testament in its entirety.

1Jn 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.KJV​

When you read that, do you see, "Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is God Himself?" I think it is you who needs to read the NT with understanding instead of reading into the text whatever you want.

 

[Reformed2]

1Jn 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.KJV​

When you read that, do you see, "Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is God Himself?" I think it is you who needs to read the NT with understanding instead of reading into the text whatever you want.

Why does God the Father command angels to WORSHIP Jesus? Explain to me the beginning of the book of John. Why didn't Jesus correct Thomas? Why does the book of Isaiah call the messiah Lord? Nontrintarianism makes no sense and is cultish.

 

[gadar perets]

Why does God the Father command angels to WORSHIP Jesus? Explain to me the beginning of the book of John. Why didn't Jesus correct Thomas? Why does the book of Isaiah call the messiah Lord? Nontrintarianism makes no sense and is cultish.

I said to PM me. I will not discuss this any further in this thread.

 

[Reformed2]

I said to PM me. I will not discuss this any further in this thread.

I'm not going to pm you. Please look into the questions I asked and search your heart. God the Father. God the Son. God the Holy Spirit. The scriptures are alive with this truth. Please read into it. With love.

❤

 

[CherubRam]

Neither of these is the Tetragram. The Tetragram does not contain an 'ayin.

Tetragram means a group of four letters. Your right, there is no ayin there. Bye.

 

[CherubRam]

That is what I thought. Therefore, you not only do not represent the waw with an English letter, but you do not even pronounce it. There is no waw in Yah shoo wah.

One more question to clarify your position. How do you spell Yahshua in Hebrew?

No more questions.

 

[gadar perets]

No more questions.

The most important question of all and you won't answer it? I guess you realize that "Yahshua" cannot be a transliteration of any known Hebrew form of the name. That is why abandoned it.

 

[CherubRam]

Waw
Phonemic representation
w, v, o, u

It represents the consonant w, and in Modern Hebrew also the v, and the vowels u and o.
The letter ו in Biblical Hebrew was known as waw and pronounced as w, as in יהוה Yahwah.

 

[CherubRam]

Theophoric names with "Yeho" prefixes have corresponding forms where the letters "eh"' have been omitted. There is a theory by Christian Ginsburg that this is due to Hebrew scribes omitting the "h", changing Jeho (יְהוֹ) into Jo (יוֹ), to make the start of "Yeho-" names not sound like an attempt to pronounce the Divine Name. With the Tetragrammaton, some theophoric names begin with the first two consonants, other names take only the first and the third letters from the Tetragrammaton and build them into the syllable "yo" at the beginning of a name (Yoab, Yoram, Yoyakim, Yoel, Yonathan).

 

[CherubRam]

The essential idea of the pentagrammaton is of an alphabetic consonantal framework Y-H-Sh-W-H, which can be supplied with vowels in various ways. (Also, the "W" can be converted into a "U", since the Hebrew letter ו waw writes either a [w] consonant sound — later on pronounced [v] — or a long vowel sound: see Mater Lectionis.)

 

[CherubRam]

n the spelling of Hebrew and some other Semitic languages, matres lectionis (English: /ˈmeɪtriːz lɛktiˈoʊnɪs/; from Latin "mothers of reading", singular form: mater lectionis, Hebrew: אֵם קְרִיאָה‎‎), refers to the use of certain consonants to indicate a vowel. The letters that do this in Hebrew are <א‎> aleph, <ה‎> he, <ו‎> waw (or vav) and <י‎> yod (or yud). The yod and waw in particular are more often vowels than they are consonants. In Arabic, the matres lectionis (though they are much less often referred to thus) are alif <ا>, waw <و>, and ya' <ي>.

 

[Heber Book List]

...and round and round the wheel turns, churning it all up.

 

[CherubRam]

In an effort to keep people from blaspheming the name, the true pronunciation of the Tetragrammaton was hidden by the Masoretes when they added vowel points to the text. There are seven different ways they vowel pointed the Tetragrammaton to achieve their goal.

יְהוָֹה - Y'howah (ē - ĕ - hō - wä), example found in Genesis 3:14

יְהוָה - Y'hwah (ē - ĕ - wä), example found in Genesis 2:4

יֱהוִֹה - Yehowih (ē - ĕ - hō - wĭ), example found in Judges 16:28

יֱהוִה - Yehwih (ē - ĕ - wĭ), example found in Genesis 15:2

יְהוִֹה - Y'howih (ē - ĕ - hō - wĭ), example found in 1 Kings 2:26

יְהוִה - Y'hwih (ē - ĕ - wĭ), example found in Ezekiel 24:24

יֲהוָה - Yahwah (ē - ă - wä), example found in Psalm 144:15
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As you can see, "Yahwah" is one of the false vowel pointings to keep the pronunciation hidden. Interestingly, The variation "Yahweh" is not one of the seven.

I was noticing that number 7 is chapter 144. If those men who did this work are Kabbalist, that could mean something. 1+4+4=9 / 72+72=144 / 7+2=9 and 7+2=9 / So on and so on.


יְהוָֹה - Y'howah (ē - ĕ - hō - wä), example found in Genesis 3:14

יְהוָה - Y'hwah (ē - ĕ - wä), example found in Genesis 2:4

יֱהוִֹה - Yehowih (ē - ĕ - hō - wĭ), example found in Judges 16:28

יֱהוִה - Yehwih (ē - ĕ - wĭ), example found in Genesis 15:2

יְהוִֹה - Y'howih (ē - ĕ - hō - wĭ), example found in 1 Kings 2:26

יְהוִה - Y'hwih (ē - ĕ - wĭ), example found in Ezekiel 24:24

יֲהוָה - Yahwah (ē - ă - wä), example found in Psalm 144:15

 

[Meowzltov]

Obedience to the Law is a fruit of my salvation, not the means to it. I would think most MJs view the Law similarly.

Yes. Also, observing Torah is a great way to pursue sanctification with the help of God's grace.

 

[Meowzltov]

I was noticing that number 7 is chapter 144. If those men who did this work are Kabbalist, that could mean something. 1+4+4=9 / 72+72=144 / 7+2=9 and 7+2=9 / So on and so on.


יְהוָֹה - Y'howah (ē - ĕ - hō - wä), example found in Genesis 3:14

יְהוָה - Y'hwah (ē - ĕ - wä), example found in Genesis 2:4

יֱהוִֹה - Yehowih (ē - ĕ - hō - wĭ), example found in Judges 16:28

יֱהוִה - Yehwih (ē - ĕ - wĭ), example found in Genesis 15:2

יְהוִֹה - Y'howih (ē - ĕ - hō - wĭ), example found in 1 Kings 2:26

יְהוִה - Y'hwih (ē - ĕ - wĭ), example found in Ezekiel 24:24

יֲהוָה - Yahwah (ē - ă - wä), example found in Psalm 144:15

Is this a joke? The Hebrew is identical, thus the pronunciations are not different.

 

[CherubRam]

In an effort to keep people from blaspheming the name, the true pronunciation of the Tetragrammaton was hidden by the Masoretes when they added vowel points to the text. There are seven different ways they vowel pointed the Tetragrammaton to achieve their goal.

יְהוָֹה - Y'howah (ē - ĕ - hō - wä), example found in Genesis 3:14

יְהוָה - Y'hwah (ē - ĕ - wä), example found in Genesis 2:4

יֱהוִֹה - Yehowih (ē - ĕ - hō - wĭ), example found in Judges 16:28

יֱהוִה - Yehwih (ē - ĕ - wĭ), example found in Genesis 15:2

יְהוִֹה - Y'howih (ē - ĕ - hō - wĭ), example found in 1 Kings 2:26

יְהוִה - Y'hwih (ē - ĕ - wĭ), example found in Ezekiel 24:24

יֲהוָה - Yahwah (ē - ă - wä), example found in Psalm 144:15
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As you can see, "Yahwah" is one of the false vowel pointings to keep the pronunciation hidden. Interestingly, The variation "Yahweh" is not one of the seven.

Which of these is a Aramaic or Hebrew word? Wih, Weh, Wah.

 

[gadar perets]

Waw
Phonemic representation
w, v, o, u

It represents the consonant w, and in Modern Hebrew also the v, and the vowels u and o.
The letter ו in Biblical Hebrew was known as waw and pronounced as w, as in יהוה Yahwah.

We are not discussing "Yahwah", but "Yahshua". How do you spell "Yahshua" in Hebrew?

 

[gadar perets]

Which of these is a Aramaic or Hebrew word? Wih, Weh, Wah.

Irrelevant. Stick to the OP. Explain the Son's name. Waw is one letter in the Son's name. What are the other Hebrew letters?

 

[gadar perets]

Is this a joke? The Hebrew is identical, thus the pronunciations are not different.

If you are referring to the verses, it is not a joke. See post #139.