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Yemenite Hebrew (when studied by linguists in the 1950s) determined it was virtually unchanged from the first century. It has no "w" sound. (it also pronounces the final hay) Most Jewish linguists insist that Hebrew NEVER had a "w" sound.
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There is no "w" sound either in Hebrew or Aramaic.
Yahuah = Yahwah

The modern letter W for the English language
The letter W is at times used in place of the letter U when the letter U has a double UU sound.
 
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[Staff edit].

I do not know if it is deliberate or accidental but the name Jesus is related to Yshu.

The name Jesus was invented not very long ago.
So how important is it to call a person by their real name? The name Jesus is derived from y'shu, the letter s is added at the end of (Jesu-s) and is only a male gender designation in Greek. The "Je" in Greek is for the letter Y in Hebrew. I guess good intentions count for something if a person does not know any better. I would think that a person would prefer being called by their real name though.

Yahshua is his name. Pronounced: Yah / shoo / uw / ah. The "u" has a "w" sound.

Y'shu

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Dictionary of Jewish usage: a guide to the use of Jewish terms - Page 39 Sol Steinmetz - 2005 - 207 pages - Preview A.\M,yimach shemo vezichro!. plural, yimach shemom (vezich- rom). (Literally) 'May his name and memory be blotted out!' Used after an individual's name, as in Haman yimach shemo! zichrono livrocho, plural, zichronom livrocho.

Chaim Bermant The walled garden: the saga of Jewish family life and tradition - 1974 "The darkest curse in the Hebrew language is yemach shemo vezichro, 'may his name and remembrance be obliterated"

Lawrence Schimel Found tribe - 2002 "The worst curse in Hebrew is "Yemach shemo!" May his name be erased!"

Jewish Currents 1990 reprinted Max Rosenfeld Festivals, folklore & philosophy: a secularist revisits Jewish ... 1997 "When you utter his name, you add (with feeling) yimakh shemoy! — may his name be obliterated! This phrase has become a kind of formula in Yiddish writing, whenever the name of Hitler occurs, but of course it originated with Haman"

A Yiddish dictionary in transliteration Harry Coldoff - 1988 Jewish language review: Volume 4 Association for the Study of Jewish Languages - 1984 "Mikoyekh hayntike tsaytn, mikoyekh emigratsye, Palestine, veys ikh! Veys ikh? Epes dakht zikh mir - - oykh dos zelbe?. Nu, un der Voskhod? Der Voskhod? Dos iz a kol-boynik, yemakh-shmoy! Ir hot gezen, vi tsederboym raybt im a morde?"

American voices: how dialects differ from coast to coast - Page 254 Walt Wolfram, Ben Ward - 2006 - 269 "Expressions include wishful terms, eg, halevai 'would that it were so', greetings, eg, boruch habo 'welcome', curses, eg, yemach shemo 'may his name be blotted out', and interjections, eg, nu 'well, so'. "

Dictionary of Jewish usage: a guide to the use of Jewish terms - Page 39 Sol Steinmetz - 2005 A. M,yimach shemo vezichro!. plural, yimach shemom (vezichrom). (Literally) 'May his name and memory be blotted out!'" [e.g.; Who's who in Lubavitch: Volume 1 Chaim Dalfin - 2003 "...sent Rabbi Rafael Kahn, who was Rav in Usvet, replacing his father-in-law Rabbi Yoel Dovidson, to replace Rabbi Estrin in Shtzedrin. Later he was rav in Nevel and finally in Riga, where he was murdered by the Nazis yimach shemom.]

Osher M. Lehmann, Oscar M. Lehmann Faith at the brink: an autobiography of the formative years 1996 "The abbreviation YS is added in this book, following the initial mention of committed German evildoers. YS, "Yemach Shemom" literally translates to "May his/her/their name be erased"."

Gershom Scholem Tagebücher: nebst Aufsätzen und Entwürfen bis 1923 2 - 1995 "Und den Nathanael gelesen. Gefährlich! Herren Professoren Strack und Dalman! יש"ו [Abk. für ימח שמו (jimach schemo, sein Name sei ausgelöscht)]."

Mordechai Rotenberg Damnation & deviance: the Protestant ethic and the spirit of failure Page 92 2003 "and the Hebrew expression "erased be his name" ("yimach shmo") is known to be a most powerfully devastating curse."

The Jewish moral virtues 232 Eugene B. Borowitz, Frances Weinman Schwartz - 1999 "The Classic Jewish Curse: Yimakh Shmo, May His Name Be Blotted Out."

Shulamis Yelin Shulamis: stories from a Montreal childhood - 1984 "And every time his abhorrent name was mentioned, it was followed by an extended roll of wooden noise- makers, graggers, and the curse, Yemach Shemoh!, May his name be wiped out. Thus had Jews revelled in the miracles of their survival ..."

Sarah Silberstein Swartz, Margie Wolfe From memory to transformation: Jewish women's voices 1998 "Part of the ritualized story includes repeating Haman, the villain's name, frequently. ... After mentioning his name, many will say, yemakh shemo, may his name be erased, eradicated."

Hebrew phrasebook Klara Ilana Wistinetzki, Justin Ben-Adam Rudelson Lonely Planet 1999 "Under Italian influence, Purim carnivals have become common in many countries, with performances retelling the story of Purim. As part of the holiday, Jews are commanded to obliterate Haman's name throughout the generations."

First things: Issues 129-133 Institute on Religion and Public Life - 2003 "The phrase is yemach shemo, which means, may his name be erased. It is used whenever a great enemy of the Jewish nation, of the past or present, is mentioned.

Chaim Schloss 2000 years of Jewish history: from the destruction of the second Bais Hamikdash until the Twentieth Century 2002, p188 "Shabsai Tzvi yimach shemo"

A Chassidic journey: the Polish Chassidic dynasties of Lublin p192 Shalom Meʼir ben Mordekhai Ṿalakh (ha-Kohen.) - 2002 "The material poverty was matched by a spiritual crisis of unprecedented dimensions within the ranks of religious Jewry, caused by Shabsai Tzvi, yemach shemo."

The essential Ilan Stavans p126 Ilan Stavans - 2000 citing Alberto Gerchunoff, The Jewish gauchos of the pampas Spanish 1910, English translation 1998 Prudencio de Pereda - 1998 "The Dain shrugged indignantly, and said in Hebrew: "Yemach Shemam Vizichrom!, May Spain sink in the sea! May she break into pieces! May her memory be obliterated! I can never think of Spain," the old man said, "without having the blood .."

Jewish currents: 44 1990 "To the youth, Yiddish is a foreign language, thanks to Stalin, Yemach shemo (May his name be erased)! In five schools and four kindergartens, Yiddish is now taught to 200 pupils (including non-Jews)"

The National Jewish monthly: Volume 43 B'nai B'rith - 1928 ""Do you think the Germans are any worse than the Russians — yimach shemom — who're on our side?" "You don't understand, dad. Anyhow, Australia's been jolly good to us Jews. The least we can do is to defend her when she is attacked."

Yair Weinstock Holiday tales for the soul: a famous novelist retells holiday Libby Lazewnik - 2002 -"The words "yemach shemam" ("may their names be erased!") were frequently on Meyer's lips — referring as much to the Poles as to the Nazis themselves. "There is no forgiveness," he would declare. "The Poles are the lowest and most ..."

New York Magazine - 31 Mar 1997 - Page 49 Vol. 30, No. 12 "... relatives to whom they sent letters, clothes, and, once, curtains for a wedding present. By war's end, only a cousin or two remained alive. Every time the rabbi at yeshiva mentioned Hitler, he spat out afterward, "Yemach shemo"

Judah Lifschitz, Aharon Sorsḳi The Klausenberger Rebbe: the war years - Page 184 2003 -"Our Sages teach us that if the Jewish people are not worthy of redemption at the end of days, the Almighty will issue harsh decrees against them — decrees which we have already suffered at the hands of Hitler, yemach shemo "

David Kranzler, Eliezer Gevirtz To save a World 1991 " "...for Jewish affairs to Eichmann, yemach shemo." He was referring to Adolf Eichmann, the supreme implementer of the Nazi scheme to deport and murder the Jews."

Nachman Seltzer In the blink of an eye: and other stories p145 2006 "Mengele, yemach shemo. How could such a creature breathe the same air as everyone else?"

Sh'ma 485-515 1995 "yemach shmam vezikhbram (may the name and memory be blotted out), the colloquially used epithet that accompanies all mentions of Hitler or the Nazis in some people's vernacular"

Yaffa Eliach Hasidic tales of the Holocaust 1982 "When one said in the ghetto, "The dog, may his name be obliterated," it was clear to all to whom the reference was made: to the Hauptsturmführer (captain) in the Passport Division."

Dovid Kaplan, Elimelech Meisels The Kiruv Files 2003 Page 82 - " He carried a physical scar from when his father had attacked him with a broken bottle and no shortage of emotional scars as well. One day he mentioned his deceased father to me and added the words yemach shemo (may his name be erased)."

From the ghetto to the melting pot: Israel Zangwill's Jewish plays p6 Israel Zangwill, Edna Nahshon - 2006 -"Moses reproached his friend privately, saying he did not wish to be known as the father of a "renegade" and used a fierce epithet: "yimakh shmo" (may his name be obliterated)/ In his later years, the father left London to live in Jerusalem."

Rav Shach on Chumash: an anthology collected from his disciples Elʻazar Menaḥem Man Shakh, Asher ben Meʼir Tsevi Bergman - 2004 "There was one exception — the leader of the Maskilim in Vilna, Adam HaKohen Sherry, to whose name the Chofetz Chaim would add yemach shemo (may his name be erased). And why? Because when the Chofetz Chaim studied in Vilna in his youth, he became well known as a very bright young man who held great promise as a future Torah giant. Adam HaKohen himself came to him and tried to convince him to abandon his studies."

Proceedings: Volume 4 Aḳademyah ha-leʼumit ha-Yiśreʼelit le-madaʻim - 1969 "Perhaps the most significant of these is the passage where instead of the printed 'that certain man' we find 'Jesus the Nazarene — may his name be obliterated' (thus also in a Genizah MS, British Museum, Or. 91842). "

Michael H. Cohen A Friend of All Faiths - Page 42 - 2004 "In Hebrew school, one of my teachers had explained that Yeshu (Hebrew for Jesus), rather than meaning "Saviour," in fact was an acronym that stood for yimach shemo ve-zichrono: "may his name and memory be erased "

Apocryphal gospels: an introduction :Hans-Josef Klauck p213. Toledoth Yeshu "An unfriendly interpretation of the child's name is offered: 'But the name Yeshu means: "May his name be blotted out, and his memory too!"' (§ 58). The three letters of which the name Jesus in Hebrew consists, yod, sin and waw,"

Mats Eskhult Rabbi Kemper's Case for Christianity in His Matthew Commentary, with Reference to Exegesis (per Mats Eskhult (Uppsala University) Hebrew Studies within Seventeenth Century Swedish Lutheranism) in Religious polemics in context: papers presented to the Second International Conference of the Leiden Institute for the Study of Religions (LISOR) ed. Theo L. Hettema, Arie van der Kooij - Page 161 2004 - "This is applied to Jesus: "It is easy to see that Jesus is spoken of," Kemper says, "and still today they mock him by rendering his name without 'ayin as Yeshu, ie, yimmah stud wezikro 'may his name and memory be wiped out."

I didn't know that! - Page 370 Joe Bobker - 2008 "The term Yemach shemo vzichro (which I heard regularly in my home in the context of Adolf and his Hitlerian hordes) was originally associated with the ultimate enemy, Amalek, "

Born to Kvetch: Yiddish Language and Culture in All of Its Moods Michael Wex - 2006 "A few names that have nothing to do with Amalek are also blotted in the Bible, but the association of yemakh shmoy with Amalek remains strong: the traditional way of testing a new pen is to write "Amalek" (in Hebrew letters, of course) and then scribble over it until it is "blotted out. "

Picturing Yiddish: gender, identity, and memory in the illustrated ... - Page 145 Diane Wolfthal - 2004 also Artful armies, beautiful battles Page 199 Pia F. Cuneo - 2002 "On Purim, some Sephardic congregants write Haman's name on the soles of their shoes and pound the floor until his name is erased.'2 Deuteronomy 25:19 commands Jews to blot out Amalek's name. Since Haman is Amalek's descendant, "

Saul Bellow: a critical essay Robert Detweiler - 1967 -"Or listen to Herzog in a comically vengeful mood: "Yemach sh'mol Let their names be blotted out!"

Liela H. Goldman Saul Bellow's moral vision: a critical study of the Jewish experience He says: "Yemach sh'mo!" Let their names be blotted out!" (250). The Hebrew noun for the word name is shem ... If Herzog is referring to his enemies, he would have to say yemach sh'mom. His anger does not justify incorrect usuage"

Haber, L. The Red Heifer (2001) Glossary yemach shemoy (shetno) (pl. yemach shemum): may his name be erased (used in reference to an evil tyrant or an oppressor); when v'zichroy (v' zichro) is added (pl. v'zichrum), the phrase is extended to mean, May his name and his memory be erased

Born to Kvetch: Yiddish Language and Culture in All of Its Moods Michael Wex - 2006 "Yemakh shmoy is so serious that the noun that derives from it is never used about anyone about whom you'd actually say yemakh shmoy. A yemakh-shmoynik (feminine, yemakh-shmoynitse) is "a scoundrel, an evildoer," but not evil enough to…"

God's sacred tongue: Hebrew & the American imagination - Page 96 Shalom Goldman - 2004 "One of the names by which such a person is called, is meshummad, from the root shamad, which signifies to destroy; and to this name they generally add yemach shemo vesichro; ie let his name and memory be blotted out.

Judah and Israel: or, The restoration and conversion of the Jews p5 Joseph Samuel Christian Frederick Frey - 1812 "One of the names by which they call him or her is Meshummad or Meshummedeth, from the root Shamad, which signifies to destroy ; and to this name they generally add, Yemach Shemo vesichro, ie, Let his name and memory be blotted out."
 
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I do not know if it is deliberate or accidental but the name Jesus is related to Yshu.
There is no conspiracy in using the name Jesus in reference to the Messiah.

The goal of transliteration is to reproduce the same sound of a word from one language to another language. Because each language has its limitations, transliterations aren't perfect.

In biblical Hebrew the name is Yeshua. The Greek "Iesous" was transliterated from "Yeshua". The "Ie" was used because there is no letter "Y" in Greek. Thus, the "Ie" (correctly pronounced) makes a "Y" sound. The English "Jesus," was transliterated from "Iesous". Note: the letter "J" used to have a "Y" sound in early English.

Admittedly, the English language does not have such limitations as the Greek, and it would have made more sense to render the name of the Messiah as "Yeshua" rather than "Jesus". In other words, it wasn't necessary to transliterate from the Greek "Iesous"; it could have been transliterated straight from the Hebrew.

But I like to think that God is wise enough to know who is calling on Him. If He wants us to call Him by a certain name, then He will make it clear to us.

Yeshua has not informed me that He is offended by me calling Him Jesus. If He does, then I will stop doing it.

UPDATE: Another commenter reminded me of something I had forgotten: The English "Jesus" was not transliterated from the Greek "Iesous" but rather the Latin "Iesus".
 
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Yahshua is his name. Pronounced: Yah / shoo / uw / ah. The "u" has a "w" sound.
Why don't you pronounce his name with 3 syllables instead of 4 syllables ?

Three pronounced syllables (Yah / shoo / wah)
Four pronounced syllables (Yah / shoo / uw / ah)
 
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So how important is it to call a person by their real name? The name Jesus is derived from y'shu, the letter s is added at the end of (Jesu-s) and is only a male gender designation in Greek. The "Je" in Greek is for the letter Y in Hebrew.

I don't know where you get this stuff or do you just make it up? "Je" is NOT Greek. Yehoshua>Yeshua>Iesous>Jesus

Many church fathers as well as the 1st century Didache used Iesous as His Name. There are NO manuscripts using "Yahshua" anywhere. If you have one, show us. Yehoshua comes from YHVH and the word yasha which means YeHoVaH saves. This from 1 BC and earlier.

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Why don't you pronounce his name with 3 syllables instead of 4 syllables ?

Three pronounced syllables (Yah / shoo / wah)
Four pronounced syllables (Yah / shoo / uw / ah)
I was making a point.
 
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Y’ shua is the short form of Yahshua.
No where in Hebrew is the apostrophe (meaning there is no vowel) pronounced with a long vowel. It cannot possibly be ah. What the apostrophe REALLY means is that it's Yshua.
 
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CherubRam, you keep bringing this issue up in the forum, meaning that the same arguments get rehashed over and over, and no one really says anything new. Is there some reason why you feel the need to keep making this such a big issue?
 
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I don't know where you get this stuff or do you just make it up? "Je" is NOT Greek. Yehoshua>Yeshua>Iesous>Jesus

Many church fathers as well as the 1st century Didache used Iesous as His Name. There are NO manuscripts using "Yahshua" anywhere. If you have one, show us. Yehoshua comes from YHVH and the word yasha which means YeHoVaH saves. This from 1 BC and earlier.

Shabbat Shalom!
I presume you are speaking from a Trinitarian point of view.

ישׁוע / The yod alone can stand for the name Yah in a word.

Y’ shua is the short form of Yahshua. The spelling ישׁוע is a long standing Jewish tradition of not writing or pronouncing God’s name.


A theory by Christian Ginsburg that this is due to Hebrew scribes omitting the "h", changing Jeho (יְהוֹ‎) into Jo (יוֹ‎), to make the start of "Yeho-" names not sound like an attempt to pronounce the Divine Name. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theophoric_name
 
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No where in Hebrew is the apostrophe (meaning there is no vowel) pronounced with a long vowel. It cannot possibly be ah. What the apostrophe REALLY means is that it's Yshua.
Quote: HERIBERTO HABER: "Another example of retaining only one letter of the Tetragrammaton is the Hebrew name Yeshu [ישו],... This is a short form of Yeshua [ישוע] that is itself a short form of Yehoshua [יהושע]."

"Heriberto Haber was director at several Jewish schools in South America, and held the title "Professor en Letras at the University of Buenos Aires.""

He is the author of Fiestas y Tradiciones Judias, dealing with Jewish holidays. He made aliyah to Israel in 1971.

Vol. 29, No. 1, 2001"

Link to source: jbq.jewishbible.org/assets/Uploads/291/291_Names1.pdf
 
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CherubRam, you keep bringing this issue up in the forum, meaning that the same arguments get rehashed over and over, and no one really says anything new. Is there some reason why you feel the need to keep making this such a big issue?
New people come here and they have not heard.
 
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The Living God



The Bible is about God being a Living Being. We do not worship a manmade God, but a Living Being.



Deuteronomy 5:26

For what mortal has ever heard the voice of the living God speaking out of fire, as we have, and survived?

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Joshua 3:10

This is how you will know that the living God is among you and that he will certainly drive out before you the Canaanites, Hittites, Hivites, Perizzites, Girgashites, Amorites and Jebusites.

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1 Samuel 17:26

David asked the men standing near him, “What will be done for the man who kills this Philistine and removes this disgrace from Israel? Who is this uncircumcised Philistine that he should defy the armies of the living God?”

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1 Samuel 17:36

Your servant has killed both the lion and the bear; this uncircumcised Philistine will be like one of them, because he has defied the armies of the living God.

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2 Kings 19:4

It may be that the Lord your God will hear all the words of the field commander, whom his master, the king of Assyria, has sent to ridicule the living God, and that he will rebuke him for the words the Lord your God has heard. Therefore pray for the remnant that still survives.”

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2 Kings 19:16

Give ear, Lord, and hear; open your eyes, Lord, and see; listen to the words Sennacherib has sent to ridicule the living God.

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Psalm 42:2

My soul thirsts for God, for the living God. When can I go and meet with God?

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Psalm 84:2

My soul yearns, even faints, for the courts of the Lord; my heart and my flesh cry out for the living God.

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Isaiah 37:4

It may be that the Lord your God will hear the words of the field commander, whom his master, the king of Assyria, has sent to ridicule the living God, and that he will rebuke him for the words the Lord your God has heard. Therefore pray for the remnant that still survives.”

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Isaiah 37:17

Give ear, Lord, and hear; open your eyes, Lord, and see; listen to all the words Sennacherib has sent to ridicule the living God.

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Jeremiah 10:10

But the Lord is the true God; he is the living God, the eternal King. When he is angry, the earth trembles; the nations cannot endure his wrath.

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Jeremiah 23:36

But you must not mention ‘a message from the Lord’ again, because each one’s word becomes their own message. So you distort the words of the living God, the Lord Almighty, our God.

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Daniel 6:20

When he came near the den, he called to Daniel in an anguished voice, “Daniel, servant of the living God, has your God, whom you serve continually, been able to rescue you from the lions?”

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Daniel 6:26

“I issue a decree that in every part of my kingdom people must fear and reverence the God of Daniel. “For he is the living God and he endures forever; his kingdom will not be destroyed, his dominion will never end.

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Hosea 1:10

“Yet the Israelites will be like the sand on the seashore, which cannot be measured or counted. In the place where it was said to them, ‘You are not my people,’ they will be called ‘children of the living God.’

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Matthew 16:16

Simon Peter answered, “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.”

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Matthew 26:63

But Jesus remained silent. The high priest said to him, “I charge you under oath by the living God: Tell us if you are the Messiah, the Son of God.”

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Acts 14:15

“Friends, why are you doing this? We too are only human, like you. We are bringing you good news, telling you to turn from these worthless things to the living God, who made the heavens and the earth and the sea and everything in them.

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Romans 9:26

and, “In the very place where it was said to them, ‘You are not my people,’ there they will be called ‘children of the living God.’”

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2 Corinthians 3:3

You show that you are a letter from Christ, the result of our ministry, written not with ink but with the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of human hearts.

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2 Corinthians 6:16

What agreement is there between the temple of God and idols? For we are the temple of the living God. As God has said: “I will live with them and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they will be my people.”

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1 Timothy 3:15

if I am delayed, you will know how people ought to conduct themselves in God’s household, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth.

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1 Timothy 4:10

That is why we labor and strive, because we have put our hope in the living God, who is the Savior of all people, and especially of those who believe.

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Hebrews 3:12

See to it, brothers and sisters, that none of you has a sinful, unbelieving heart that turns away from the living God.

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Hebrews 9:14

How much more, then, will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself unblemished to God, cleanse our consciences from acts that lead to death, so that we may serve the living God!

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Hebrews 10:31

It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

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Hebrews 12:22

But you have come to Mount Zion, to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem. You have come to thousands upon thousands of angels in joyful assembly,

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Revelation 7:2

Then I saw another angel coming up from the east, having the seal of the living God. He called out in a loud voice to the four angels who had been given power to harm the land and the sea:

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Y’ shua is the short form of Yahshua. The spelling ישׁוע is a long standing Jewish tradition of not writing or pronouncing God’s name.

No it doesn't. Yeshua, as I already explained, is the short form of Yehoshua.
 
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No it doesn't. Yeshua, as I already explained, is the short form of Yehoshua.
Quote: HERIBERTO HABER: "Another example of retaining only one letter of the Tetragrammaton is the Hebrew name Yeshu [ישו],... This is a short form of Yeshua [ישוע] that is itself a short form of Yehoshua [יהושע]."

"Heriberto Haber was director at several Jewish schools in South America, and held the title "Professor en Letras at the University of Buenos Aires.""

He is the author of Fiestas y Tradiciones Judias, dealing with Jewish holidays. He made aliyah to Israel in 1971.

Vol. 29, No. 1, 2001"

Link to source: jbq.jewishbible.org/assets/Uploads/291/291_Names1.pdf
 
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[Staff edit].

I have reasons to believe what I say is true.

Jeremiah 23:27
They think the dreams they tell one another will make my people forget my name, just as their ancestors forgot my name through Baal worship.

Malachi 1:6

“A son honors his father, and a slave his master. If I am a father, where is the honor due me? If I am a master, where is the respect due me?” says Yahwah Almighty. “It is you priests who show contempt for my name.



Yahwah
A note on the words hawah and hayah.

Quote from pages 217 and 218 of the Brown-Driver-Briggs. Ref # 3068-69, on page 217.


Brown-Driver-Briggs on page 218 states that, Quote: "Many recent scholars explain יהוה‎ as Hiph. of הוה equals היה "

הוה hawah. HWH is hawah.
היה hayah. HYH is hayah.
Note that the vowels are " a."
יהוה Yahwah


The vowels are "a" in the Brown-Driver-Briggs, also in the NIV Exhaustive Concordance, and the Strong's Exhaustive Concordances.




During the Babylonian captivity the Hebrew language spoken by the Jews was replaced by the Aramaic language of their Babylonian captors. Aramaic was closely related to Hebrew, and while sharing many vocabulary words in common, they contained some words that sounded the same or similar but had other meanings.
In Aramaic, the Hebrew word for “blaspheme” used in Leviticus 24:16, “Anyone who blasphemes the name of Yahwah must be put to death” began to be interpreted as “pronounce” rather than “blaspheme”. When the Jews began speaking Aramaic, this verse was misunderstood to mean, “Anyone who pronounces the name of Yahwah must be put to death.” Since then observant Jews have maintained the custom of not pronouncing the name. This also lead to some believing that God's name is not pronounceable.


Holman Christian Standard Bible

Jeremiah 23:27.
Through their dreams that they tell one another, they make plans to cause My people to forget My name as their fathers forgot My name through Baal worship.


My translation
Through their imaginings that they tell each other, they made plans to cause my people to forget my name, like their forefathers forgot my name through Baal worship.

Some Biblical theophoric names end in ia(h) or yah as shortened forms of Yahwah: That points to the vowels being "a".

Pronouncing the Name of God
Nothing in the Bible prohibits a person from pronouncing the name of God. It is evident from scripture that God's name was pronounced routinely. Many common Hebrew names contain "Yah" and "ia(h)" parts of God's name. For an example the name Jeremiah ends in "ah." The Name Yahwah was pronounced as part of daily services in the Temple.

There is no prohibition against pronouncing the name in ancient times. As a matter of fact, the Mishnah recommends using God's name as a routine greeting to a fellow Jews. Berakhot 9:5.
However, in the time of the Talmud, it was the custom to use substitute names for God. Some rabbis asserted that a person who pronounces Yahwah according to its letters (instead of using a substitute) has no place in the world to come, and should be put to death for pronouncing the name.
 
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In an effort to keep people from blaspheming the name, the true pronunciation of the Tetragrammaton was hidden by the Masoretes when they added vowel points to the text. There are seven different ways they vowel pointed the Tetragrammaton to achieve their goal.

יְהוָֹה - Y'howah (ē - ĕ - hō - wä), example found in Genesis 3:14

יְהוָה - Y'hwah (ē - ĕ - wä), example found in Genesis 2:4

יֱהוִֹה - Yehowih (ē - ĕ - hō - wĭ), example found in Judges 16:28

יֱהוִה - Yehwih (ē - ĕ - wĭ), example found in Genesis 15:2

יְהוִֹה - Y'howih (ē - ĕ - hō - wĭ), example found in 1 Kings 2:26

יְהוִה - Y'hwih (ē - ĕ - wĭ), example found in Ezekiel 24:24

יֲהוָה - Yahwah (ē - ă - wä), example found in Psalm 144:15
As you can see, "Yahwah" is one of the false vowel pointings to keep the pronunciation hidden. Interestingly, The variation "Yahweh" is not one of the seven.
 
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In an effort to keep people from blaspheming the name, the true pronunciation of the Tetragrammaton was hidden by the Masoretes when they added vowel points to the text. There are seven different ways they vowel pointed the Tetragrammaton to achieve their goal.

יְהוָֹה - Y'howah (ē - ĕ - hō - wä), example found in Genesis 3:14

יְהוָה - Y'hwah (ē - ĕ - wä), example found in Genesis 2:4

יֱהוִֹה - Yehowih (ē - ĕ - hō - wĭ), example found in Judges 16:28

יֱהוִה - Yehwih (ē - ĕ - wĭ), example found in Genesis 15:2

יְהוִֹה - Y'howih (ē - ĕ - hō - wĭ), example found in 1 Kings 2:26

יְהוִה - Y'hwih (ē - ĕ - wĭ), example found in Ezekiel 24:24

יֲהוָה - Yahwah (ē - ă - wä), example found in Psalm 144:15
As you can see, "Yahwah" is one of the false vowel pointings to keep the pronunciation hidden. Interestingly, The variation "Yahweh" is not one of the seven.
Wah is a word and weh is not. Most all scholars agree that the first name of God is Yah. Thanks for the list of variations.
 
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As you can see, "Yahwah" is one of the false vowel pointings to keep the pronunciation hidden. Interestingly, The variation "Yahweh" is not one of the seven.
So what you are essentially saying is "Yahwah" is an incorrect pronunciation of the name of God, and that "Yahweh" is more likely correct?
 
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