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In Revelation 13:13 God shows us the coming of the 2nd beast who will make such magnificent miracles to deceive the world even to bring down fire from the sky.

Israel believes that God will send Elijah again before the end comes as written in Malachi 4:5 and the second beast will call fire from the sky like Elijah to deceive that he is the promised Elijah.

But the 2nd beast will bring his own religion and make those miracles in the name of his "God". Thats the purpose of the devil empowering him to deceive the whole world.

How Islam Took Over the Bible

The darkness has built its sanctuary for this 2nd beast end Times purpose. It cannot be removed until the end Times prophecy is fulfilled.
As Revelation 11 says there will be the 3rd temple built but the court is given to gentiles.
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The court is the yard outside the temple.

He speaks like a dragon and the world will tremble and fear him when he appear as he has been hidden by the Luciferian NWO globalists who orchestrated the WTC 9/11 tragedy and also finance and develop its subsequent terrorism and jihadists, NOT BY THE ARABS.

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The first beast will be claimed as the Messiah /Isa Al Masih and the 2nd beast may be claimed as Mahdi as well as Elijah.

And nations will be deceived as the UN will give mandates and power for the two beasts to rule over the world.
 
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In Revelation 13:13 God shows us the coming of the 2nd beast who will make such magnificent miracles to deceive the world even to bring down fire from the sky.

But the 2nd beast Will bring his own religion and make those miracles in the name of his "God". Thats the purpose of the devil empowering him to deceive the whole world.

How Islam Took Over the Bible

The darkness has built its sanctuary for this 2nd beast end Times purpose. It cannot be removed until the end Times prophecy is fulfilled.
As Revelation 11 says there will be the 3rd temple built but the court is given to gentiles.
View attachment 316015
The court is the yard outside the temple.

He speaks like a dragon and the world will tremble and fear him when he appear as he has been hidden by the Luciferian NWO globalists who orchestrated the WTC 9/11 tragedy and also finance and develop its subsequent terrorism and jihadists, NOT BY THE ARABS.

View attachment 316014

And nations will be deceived as the UN will give mandates and power for the two beasts to rule over the world.
Breaking the Beast

“The dragon stood on the shore of the sea. And I saw a beast coming out of the sea. It had ten horns and seven heads, with ten crowns on its horns, and on each head a blasphemous name (Rev. 13:1).”

Beast = kingdom (Dan. 7:23)
Heads = kings (Rev. 17:10)

The Holy Roman Empire (Daniel 7’s fourth beast) was once comprised of Italy and Germany. Dissolution of the Holy Roman Empire: 1806.

Beast-kingdom from the Sea (Rev. 13:1): the Neo-Roman Empire

Seven Italian Head-kings
1. Vittorio Emanuele di Savoia (1802–1821)
2. Carlo Felice Giuseppe Maria di Savoia (1821–1831)
3. Carlo Alberto Emanuele Vittorio Maria Clemente Saverio di Savoia (1831–1849)
4. Vittorio Emanuele Maria Alberto Eugenio Ferdinando Tommaso (1849–1878)
5. Umberto Ranieri Carlo Emanuele Giovanni Maria Ferdinando Eugenio di Savoia (1878–1900)
6. Vittorio Emanuele Ferdinando Maria Gennaro di Savoia-Carignano (1900–1946)*
7. Umberto Nicola Tommaso Giovanni Maria di Savoia (1946)**

* Wounded by an Austrian grenade and healed (Rev. 13:3)

** Reigned only 34 days, "a little while" (Rev. 17:10)

The blasphemous names: Emanuele, Giuseppe, Giovanni

Emanuele: “God Is With Us”
Giuseppe: “God Will Add, Increase”
Giovanni: “God Is Gracious”

Horns = kings (Rev. 17:12)

Ten German Horn-kings
1. Frederick William III (1797–1840)
2. Frederick William IV (1840–1861)
3. William I (1861–1888)
4. Frederick III (1888)
5. Wilhelm II (1888–1918)
6. Friedrich Ebert (1918–1925)
7. Hans Luther (1925)
8. Walter Simons (1925)
9. Paul von Hindenburg (1925–1934)
10. Adolf Hitler (1934–1945)*

*Whose holocaust lasted 42 months: 25 Nov. 1941–8 May 1945 (Rev. 13:5)

Revealing the Antichrist

“The beast which was and is not, is himself also an eighth [head] and is one of the seven [heads], and he goes to destruction (Rev. 17:11).”

“When [the two witnesses] have finished their testimony, the beast that comes up out of the abyss will make war with them, and overcome them and kill them (Rev. 11:7).”



“Then I saw another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spoke as a dragon. He exercises all the authority of the first beast in his presence. And he makes the earth and those who live on it worship the first beast, whose fatal wound was healed (Rev. 13:11-12).”

Beast-kingdom from the Earth (Rev. 13:11): the United Kingdom

Two UK Horn-kings (Rev. 13:11)
1. George VI (1936–1952)
2. Elizabeth II (1952–present)

Name of the Beast
The 6th letter of the Hebrew alphabet is “waw.” It has a numerical value of 6, like the Roman numeral “V” has a numerical value of 5 (Waw (letter) - Wikipedia). So 666 is literally “WWW.” This is the number of the beast-kingdom we are living in today, and it is also the name of the beast-kingdom (the World Wide Web/Information Age). It is the number of a man. One man from London invented the World Wide Web in 1989: his name is Tim Berners-Lee. He is not the antichrist. The antichrist will kill the two witnesses (Rev. 11:7).

“Number of the beast (Rev. 13:18)”
666 = WWW (Waw (letter) - Wikipedia)

“Mark of the beast (Rev. 13:16)” = smartphones
Mark = thing carved, sculpture, or graven work (G5480 - charagma - Strong's Greek Lexicon (kjv))

“Image of the beast (Rev. 13:14)” = Sophia the Robot
Image = a likeness, i.e. (literally) statue, profile, or (figuratively) representation, resemblance:—image (G1504 - eikōn - Strong's Greek Lexicon (kjv))

1946: Mobile Telephone Service
1948: Manchester Baby
1949: Manchester Mark 1
1950: Diners’ Club
1951: Ferranti Mark 1
1958: Visa
1966: Mastercard
1974: Internet
1975: Microsoft
1976: Apple
1977: Commodore PET
1984: Apple Macintosh
1985: Discover Card
1989: WORLD WIDE WEB (WWW) = NAME OF THE BEAST FROM THE EARTH (Rev. 13:17)
1990: Nexus
1991: SIM card
1992: Treaty on Open Skies
1993: World Wide Web put into the public domain by the European Organization for Nuclear Research (CERN)
1994: Amazon
1995: eBay
1996: SMARTPHONES = MARK OF THE BEAST FROM THE EARTH (Rev. 13:16)
1997: Mobile commerce
1998: Google
1999: PayPal
2000: LimeWire
2001: Patriot Act
2002: Friendster
2003: LinkedIn
2004: Facebook
2006: Twitter
2007: Apple iPhone
2009: Bitcoi
2010: Instagram
2011: Apple Siri
2012: Huawei P1
2013: Google Pixel
2014: Amazon Alexa
2016: SOPHIA THE ROBOT = IMAGE OF THE BEAST FROM THE EARTH (Rev. 13:14)
2017: Sep. 23 Sign of the Son of Man (Rev. 12:1–2)

“And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, and he provides that no one will be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has the mark, either the name of the beast or the number of his name (Rev. 13:16-17).”

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“Then another angel, a third one, followed them, saying with a loud voice, ‘If anyone [1.] worships the beast [the World Wide Web/Information Age] AND [2.] his image [social, humanoid robots], AND [3.] receives a mark [smartphone] on his forehead [figuratively, as a god] OR on his hand [literally, as an assistant], he also will drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is mixed in full strength in the cup of His anger; and he will be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever; they have no rest day and night, those who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name. Here is the perseverance of the saints who keep the commandments of God and their faith in Jesus (Rev. 14:9-12).’”
 
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In Revelation 13:13 God shows us the coming of the 2nd beast who will make such magnificent miracles to deceive the world even to bring down fire from the sky.

But the 2nd beast Will bring his own religion and make those miracles in the name of his "God". Thats the purpose of the devil empowering him to deceive the whole world.

How Islam Took Over the Bible

The darkness has built its sanctuary for this 2nd beast end Times purpose. It cannot be removed until the end Times prophecy is fulfilled.
As Revelation 11 says there will be the 3rd temple built but the court is given to gentiles.
View attachment 316015
The court is the yard outside the temple.

He speaks like a dragon and the world will tremble and fear him when he appear as he has been hidden by the Luciferian NWO globalists who orchestrated the WTC 9/11 tragedy and also finance and develop its subsequent terrorism and jihadists, NOT BY THE ARABS.

View attachment 316014

And nations will be deceived as the UN will give mandates and power for the two beasts to rule over the world.

My view is that European Civilization is home to the eventual Antichristian Empire, a restart of the old pagan Roman Empire. Perhaps Russia will eventually enter into the European community? I'll be watching to see what happens after Putin's demise.

I don't believe a 3rd Jewish temple will be built, though I could be wrong. I just don't see a restart of the Law and its temple sacrifices. I thought that the NT pretty much sent that over to the trash heap? That covenant was broken, which is why the Jewish People, as a whole, still remain under judgment.

But I do think Islam is an Antichrist, though I don't know the role it will play in these Last Days. Perhaps this is the pathway for the Kings of the East that will march to Armageddon?

I don't know what the "fire from heaven" is that you referred to? Perhaps it is the ability to command rockets from the sky? Or maybe it's something miraculous? I tend to see it in technological, modern terms. But I'm open.

It's clear that the 2nd Beast stuns the earth with his miracles. The 1st beast comes back to life, and an image speaks. Who knows what this means? Rebirth of the dead pagan Roman Empire? Can't say for sure...
 
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My view is that European Civilization is home to the eventual Antichristian Empire, a restart of the old pagan Roman Empire. Perhaps Russia will eventually enter into the European community? I'll be watching to see what happens after Putin's demise.

I don't believe a 3rd Jewish temple will be built, though I could be wrong. I just don't see a restart of the Law and its temple sacrifices. I thought that the NT pretty much sent that over to the trash heap? That covenant was broken, which is why the Jewish People, as a whole, still remain under judgment.

But I do think Islam is an Antichrist, though I don't know the role it will play in these Last Days. Perhaps this is the pathway for the Kings of the East that will march to Armageddon?

I don't know what the "fire from heaven" is that you referred to? Perhaps it is the ability to command rockets from the sky? Or maybe it's something miraculous? I tend to see it in technological, modern terms. But I'm open.

It's clear that the 2nd Beast stuns the earth with his miracles. The 1st beast comes back to life, and an image speaks. Who knows what this means? Rebirth of the dead pagan Roman Empire? Can't say for sure...

The Arab may allow the 3rd temple to be rebuilt after defeated at Gog n Magog battle and antichrist will claim to be the promised Messiah to Israel as well as the return fulfillment of Arab Isa Al masih.

The 2nd beast will call fire from the sky to burn sacrfice offerings like Elijah did in OT. He pretend to be the promised Elijah in Malachi 4:5
 
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Name of the Beast
The 6th letter of the Hebrew alphabet is “waw.” It has a numerical value of 6, like the Roman numeral “V” has a numerical value of 5 (Waw (letter) - Wikipedia). So 666 is literally “WWW.” This is the number of the beast-kingdom we are living in today, and it is also the name of the beast-kingdom (the World Wide Web/Information Age). It is the number of a man. One man from London invented the World Wide Web in 1989: his name is Tim Berners-Lee. He is not the antichrist. The antichrist will kill the two witnesses (Rev. 11:7).

“Number of the beast (Rev. 13:18)”
666 = WWW (Waw (letter) - Wikipedia)
The problem here is that the Number of the Beast is not three six's. It is the numerical value of six hundred and sixty six.

This is made more obvious in the Greek text. What is written in the applicable section is χξϛ. When used to make numbers, χ means six hundred, ξ means sixty, and ϛ means six. So we don't have three six's, but a six hundred, a sixty, and a six.

So even if we do accept the idea of how WWW can be turned into Waw Waw Waw (or Vav Vav Vav as some write it), that would end up giving you eighteen, not six hundred sixty six.
 
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The Arab may allow the 3rd temple to be rebuilt after defeated at Gog n Magog battle and antichrist will claim to be the promised Messiah to Israel as well as the return fulfillment of Arab Isa Al masih.

The 2nd beast will call fire from the sky to burn sacrfice offerings like Elijah did in OT. He pretend to be the promised Elijah in Malachi 4:5

That's one possible interpretation, and I can see where you got that. Thanks.
 
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The problem here is that the Number of the Beast is not three six's. It is the numerical value of six hundred and sixty six.

This is made more obvious in the Greek text. What is written in the applicable section is χξϛ. When used to make numbers, χ means six hundred, ξ means sixty, and ϛ means six. So we don't have three six's, but a six hundred, a sixty, and a six.

So even if we do accept the idea of how WWW can be turned into Waw Waw Waw (or Vav Vav Vav as some write it), that would end up giving you eighteen, not six hundred sixty six.
But the beast from the earth is the UK... And six hundred sixty-six in English is 666. Translating from English to Hebrew, 666 = WWW.
 
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The Arab may allow the 3rd temple to be rebuilt after defeated at Gog n Magog battle and antichrist will claim to be the promised Messiah to Israel as well as the return fulfillment of Arab Isa Al masih.
In muslim end times sequence of events, what the muslims say is the Mahdi and his forces become engaged in a climatic do or die battle with the dajjal (the muslim version of the Antichrist) and his forces.

Then, they say Isa (their version of Jesus) returns to intervene and destroys the Dajjal.

Since the bible has no corresponding event of a Mahdi figure battling a dajjal (Antichrist) figure - the showing up of Isa, as the real Antichrist, to begin the 7 years cannot happen.
 
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Breaking the Beast

“The dragon stood on the shore of the sea. And I saw a beast coming out of the sea. It had ten horns and seven heads, with ten crowns on its horns, and on each head a blasphemous name (Rev. 13:1).”

Beast = kingdom (Dan. 7:23)
Heads = kings (Rev. 17:10)

The Holy Roman Empire (Daniel 7’s fourth beast) was once comprised of Italy and Germany. Dissolution of the Holy Roman Empire: 1806.

Beast-kingdom from the Sea (Rev. 13:1): the Neo-Roman Empire

Seven Italian Head-kings
1. Vittorio Emanuele di Savoia (1802–1821)
2. Carlo Felice Giuseppe Maria di Savoia (1821–1831)
3. Carlo Alberto Emanuele Vittorio Maria Clemente Saverio di Savoia (1831–1849)
4. Vittorio Emanuele Maria Alberto Eugenio Ferdinando Tommaso (1849–1878)
5. Umberto Ranieri Carlo Emanuele Giovanni Maria Ferdinando Eugenio di Savoia (1878–1900)
6. Vittorio Emanuele Ferdinando Maria Gennaro di Savoia-Carignano (1900–1946)*
7. Umberto Nicola Tommaso Giovanni Maria di Savoia (1946)**

* Wounded by an Austrian grenade and healed (Rev. 13:3)

** Reigned only 34 days, "a little while" (Rev. 17:10)

The blasphemous names: Emanuele, Giuseppe, Giovanni

Emanuele: “God Is With Us”
Giuseppe: “God Will Add, Increase”
Giovanni: “God Is Gracious”

Horns = kings (Rev. 17:12)

Ten German Horn-kings
1. Frederick William III (1797–1840)
2. Frederick William IV (1840–1861)
3. William I (1861–1888)
4. Frederick III (1888)
5. Wilhelm II (1888–1918)
6. Friedrich Ebert (1918–1925)
7. Hans Luther (1925)
8. Walter Simons (1925)
9. Paul von Hindenburg (1925–1934)
10. Adolf Hitler (1934–1945)*

*Whose holocaust lasted 42 months: 25 Nov. 1941–8 May 1945 (Rev. 13:5)

Revealing the Antichrist

“The beast which was and is not, is himself also an eighth [head] and is one of the seven [heads], and he goes to destruction (Rev. 17:11).”

“When [the two witnesses] have finished their testimony, the beast that comes up out of the abyss will make war with them, and overcome them and kill them (Rev. 11:7).”



“Then I saw another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spoke as a dragon. He exercises all the authority of the first beast in his presence. And he makes the earth and those who live on it worship the first beast, whose fatal wound was healed (Rev. 13:11-12).”

Beast-kingdom from the Earth (Rev. 13:11): the United Kingdom

Two UK Horn-kings (Rev. 13:11)
1. George VI (1936–1952)
2. Elizabeth II (1952–present)

Name of the Beast
The 6th letter of the Hebrew alphabet is “waw.” It has a numerical value of 6, like the Roman numeral “V” has a numerical value of 5 (Waw (letter) - Wikipedia). So 666 is literally “WWW.” This is the number of the beast-kingdom we are living in today, and it is also the name of the beast-kingdom (the World Wide Web/Information Age). It is the number of a man. One man from London invented the World Wide Web in 1989: his name is Tim Berners-Lee. He is not the antichrist. The antichrist will kill the two witnesses (Rev. 11:7).

“Number of the beast (Rev. 13:18)”
666 = WWW (Waw (letter) - Wikipedia)

“Mark of the beast (Rev. 13:16)” = smartphones
Mark = thing carved, sculpture, or graven work (G5480 - charagma - Strong's Greek Lexicon (kjv))

“Image of the beast (Rev. 13:14)” = Sophia the Robot
Image = a likeness, i.e. (literally) statue, profile, or (figuratively) representation, resemblance:—image (G1504 - eikōn - Strong's Greek Lexicon (kjv))

1946: Mobile Telephone Service
1948: Manchester Baby
1949: Manchester Mark 1
1950: Diners’ Club
1951: Ferranti Mark 1
1958: Visa
1966: Mastercard
1974: Internet
1975: Microsoft
1976: Apple
1977: Commodore PET
1984: Apple Macintosh
1985: Discover Card
1989: WORLD WIDE WEB (WWW) = NAME OF THE BEAST FROM THE EARTH (Rev. 13:17)
1990: Nexus
1991: SIM card
1992: Treaty on Open Skies
1993: World Wide Web put into the public domain by the European Organization for Nuclear Research (CERN)
1994: Amazon
1995: eBay
1996: SMARTPHONES = MARK OF THE BEAST FROM THE EARTH (Rev. 13:16)
1997: Mobile commerce
1998: Google
1999: PayPal
2000: LimeWire
2001: Patriot Act
2002: Friendster
2003: LinkedIn
2004: Facebook
2006: Twitter
2007: Apple iPhone
2009: Bitcoi
2010: Instagram
2011: Apple Siri
2012: Huawei P1
2013: Google Pixel
2014: Amazon Alexa
2016: SOPHIA THE ROBOT = IMAGE OF THE BEAST FROM THE EARTH (Rev. 13:14)
2017: Sep. 23 Sign of the Son of Man (Rev. 12:1–2)

“And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, and he provides that no one will be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has the mark, either the name of the beast or the number of his name (Rev. 13:16-17).”

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“Then another angel, a third one, followed them, saying with a loud voice, ‘If anyone [1.] worships the beast [the World Wide Web/Information Age] AND [2.] his image [social, humanoid robots], AND [3.] receives a mark [smartphone] on his forehead [figuratively, as a god] OR on his hand [literally, as an assistant], he also will drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is mixed in full strength in the cup of His anger; and he will be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever; they have no rest day and night, those who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name. Here is the perseverance of the saints who keep the commandments of God and their faith in Jesus (Rev. 14:9-12).’”
The person who becomes the Antichrist must be a Jew. Because functionally "Christ" is the promised great King of Israel descended from David. The Jews rejected Jesus to be their King of Israel messiah.

The "Anti" Christ will be someone who the Jews will embrace (for a while) as that promised great King of Israel descended from David.

He officially becomes the Antichrist when the false prophet anoints him the King of Israel. And the Antichrist then has the law read from the temple mount to the nation of Israel to begin the 7 years, following a requirement Moses made in Deuteronomy 31:9-13 of all future leaders of Israel on a 7 year basis.

His time as the Antichrist lasts until he reveals himself to be the man of sin (and not the Jewish messiah after all), claiming to have achieved God-hood, which he will be killed for it, and brought back to life to become the beast.

As the beast, he will be the dictator of the EU with its ten kings and the world for 42 months.
 
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In muslim end times sequence of events, what the muslims say is the Mahdi and his forces become engaged in a climatic do or die battle with the dajjal (the muslim version of the Antichrist) and his forces.

Then, they say Isa (their version of Jesus) returns to intervene and destroys the Dajjal.

Since the bible has no corresponding event of a Mahdi figure battling a dajjal (Antichrist) figure - the showing up of Isa, as the real Antichrist, to begin the 7 years cannot happen.
That will happen at battle of Armageddon against Jesus which they accuse as Dajjal.
 
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The person who becomes the Antichrist must be a Jew. Because functionally "Christ" is the promised great King of Israel descended from David. The Jews rejected Jesus to be their King of Israel messiah.

The "Anti" Christ will be someone who the Jews will embrace (for a while) as that promised great King of Israel descended from David.

He officially becomes the Antichrist when the false prophet anoints him the King of Israel. And the Antichrist then has the law read from the temple mount to the nation of Israel to begin the 7 years, following a requirement Moses made in Deuteronomy 31:9-13 of all future leaders of Israel on a 7 year basis.

His time as the Antichrist lasts until he reveals himself to be the man of sin (and not the Jewish messiah after all), claiming to have achieved God-hood, which he will be killed for it, and brought back to life to become the beast.

As the beast, he will be the dictator of the EU with its ten kings and the world for 42 months.
The person who becomes the Antichrist must be a Jew. Because functionally "Christ" is the promised great King of Israel descended from David. The Jews rejected Jesus to be their King of Israel messiah.

The "Anti" Christ will be someone who the Jews will embrace (for a while) as that promised great King of Israel descended from David.

He officially becomes the Antichrist when the false prophet anoints him the King of Israel. And the Antichrist then has the law read from the temple mount to the nation of Israel to begin the 7 years, following a requirement Moses made in Deuteronomy 31:9-13 of all future leaders of Israel on a 7 year basis.

His time as the Antichrist lasts until he reveals himself to be the man of sin (and not the Jewish messiah after all), claiming to have achieved God-hood, which he will be killed for it, and brought back to life to become the beast.

As the beast, he will be the dictator of the EU with its ten kings and the world for 42 months.
No its Jesus who must be a Jews and has been fulfilled Already.

All lies can be bought with money to confirm that the beast is a Jews (remember Judas was bribed by sanhedrin to betray Jesus because all that sanhedrin was corrupt greedy people worked for their bellies) every lies is possible with money. The sanhedrin are not christians and any decision to confirm "Messiah" may be negotiated for benefit and profit.
 
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That will happen at battle of Armageddon against Jesus which they accuse as Dajjal.
Are you aware of what the muslims say will be the appearance of the
Dajjal ?

1. That he will have a very hairy body.
2. He will have one eye bulging out like a grape.
3. He will have the name Kafur in his forehead.

There is no way anyone is going to accuse Jesus when He comes heaven with power and great glory as being the Dajjal.
 
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No its Jesus who must be a Jews and has been fulfilled Already.

All lies can be bought with money to confirm that the beast is a Jews (remember Judas was bribed by sanhedrin to betray Jesus because all that sanhedrin was corrupt greedy people worked for their bellies) every lies is possible with money. The sanhedrin are not christians and any decision to confirm "Messiah" may be negotiated for benefit and profit.
Jesus was a jew. And the coming Antichrist will be a jew. It has nothing to do with money or bribery or anyone being bought off.
 
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Are you aware of what the muslims say will be the appearance of the
Dajjal ?

1. That he will have a very hairy body.
2. He will have one eye bulging out like a grape.
3. He will have the name Kafur in his forehead.

There is no way anyone is going to accuse Jesus when He comes heaven with power and great glory as being the Dajjal.
Its just their lies, such creature Will be captured and placed at the zoo for shows.

The spirit of frogs will prepare all kings of the world to battle Jesus at Armageddon, the world will be told that Jesus is the Dajjal with one eye and hairy body.

Bible tells in Zechariah 11:16-17 that one of the eye of the beast Will be severely wounded thats why he is pictured as the one eyed all seeing eye, the picture of Dajjal with third eye and hairy body was created to hide.him





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Jesus was a jew. And the coming Antichrist will be a jew. It has nothing to do with money or bribery or anyone being bought off.
Its sanhedrin to decide whether he is a Messiah or not and not us. The real Jews Messiah is Jesus and it has been fulfilled ALREADY so why force this asumption to the fake one
 
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The spirit of frogs will prepare all kings of the world to battle Jesus at Armageddon, the world will be told that Jesus is the Dajjal with one eye and hairy body.
But Jesus will not be looking that way. The whole world will see directly Jesus as He is appearing to the world directly from the third heaven, as the universe parts like a scroll in the sixth seal event, before the kings of the earth assemble their armies to make war on him.

Here is my rendition of what Jesus will look like....

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...He will have a sickle in His hand based on Revelation 14:14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.

His sickle will make it clear on His intentions on passing judgement on them who will have persecuted the saints during the great tribulation.

No-one is going to be saying that Jesus is the Dajjal - because the Dajjal does not come from heaven, but some place in the middle east and supposedly has an army of 30,000 Jewish followers according to Muslims.

The theory that the Antichrist will be the Muslim Mahdi and that the false prophet will be Isa the muslim Jesus doesn't fit. I considered that theory myself over 20 years ago, and studied it from every angle - it just doesn't fit.

What does fit is the Antichrist coming out of the EU as a Jew, his religion Judaism, who following Gog/Magog will be perceived by the Jews as their long awaited messiah, and is anointed the King of Israel.

Until he goes off the deep end, and thinks he has achieved God-hood. Betraying the Jews and the Mt. Sinai covenant they agreed to with the One True God.

He will be killed for his claim, and brought back to life as the beast, convincing many of the world that his initial claim of having achieved God-hood to be true.

Many of the world will worship him and the image that will be made of him - which later gets incarnated by Satan making it appear to be a miracle done by the false prophet.

None of those things fit with the Muslim Mahdi, Isa, Dajjal theory.

Islam itself will end when the Gog/Magog event takes place when God defends Israel by supernatural ways, proving Islam to the muslims to be lie. In the aftermath, some will become Christians, others may think the Antichrist is the true messiah, and others will end up following the beast. But Islam the religion itself with all its lying prophecies will no longer be a concern following Gog/Magog.
 
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Its sanhedrin to decide whether he is a Messiah or not and not us. The real Jews Messiah is Jesus and it has been fulfilled ALREADY so why force this asumption to the fake one
Servant78, in John 5:43, Jesus said that they will accept another coming his own name, i.e. someone that God did not send to be their King of Israel messiah.

43 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.

When Jesus rode into Jerusalem, the week he would be crucified, riding the donkey, his many followers, hailed him as King of Israel.

John 12:
12 On the next day much people that were come to the feast, when they heard that Jesus was coming to Jerusalem,

13 Took branches of palm trees, and went forth to meet him, and cried, Hosanna: Blessed is the King of Israel that cometh in the name of the Lord.

14 And Jesus, when he had found a young ass, sat thereon; as it is written,

15 Fear not, daughter of Sion: behold, thy King cometh, sitting on an ass's colt.

Later, on the day Jesus was crucified, the Jewish religious leaders mocked him...

Mark 15:32

31 Likewise also the chief priests mocking said among themselves with the scribes, He saved others; himself he cannot save.

32 Let Christ the King of Israel descend now from the cross, that we may see and believe. And they that were crucified with him reviled him.

What all those verses are telling you is that Christ equates to the promised one to be the King of Israel, coming in the name of the Lord.

So the Anti-christ is an imposter, coming in his own name, so full of himself, that he himself will think he is the long awaited messiah.

Holding the view that Jesus was not the messiah, the Jews (Judaism) are looking for the messiah, the promised one, to be the great King of Israel, to lead them and the world into the messianic age of peace and safety.

In 1Thessalonians5:
3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

Why will they be saying peace and safety? Because at the time, the Jews and the world for the most part will be thinking it has entered the messianic with the Antichrist being the messiah, the King of Israel.

Until the day that illusion is burst, by the Antichrist going into the temple, sitting, claiming to have achieved God-hood. Followed shortly by the great tribulation, full of destruction.
 
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But Jesus will not be looking that way. The whole world will see directly Jesus as He is appearing to the world directly from the third heaven, as the universe parts like a scroll in the sixth seal event, before the kings of the earth assemble their armies to make war on him.

Here is my rendition of what Jesus will look like....

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...He will have a sickle in His hand based on Revelation 14:14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.

His sickle will make it clear on His intentions on passing judgement on them who will have persecuted the saints during the great tribulation.

No-one is going to be saying that Jesus is the Dajjal - because the Dajjal does not come from heaven, but some place in the middle east and supposedly has an army of 30,000 Jewish followers according to Muslims.

The theory that the Antichrist will be the Muslim Mahdi and that the false prophet will be Isa the muslim Jesus doesn't fit. I considered that theory myself over 20 years ago, and studied it from every angle - it just doesn't fit.

What does fit is the Antichrist coming out of the EU as a Jew, his religion Judaism, who following Gog/Magog will be perceived by the Jews as their long awaited messiah, and is anointed the King of Israel.

Until he goes off the deep end, and thinks he has achieved God-hood. Betraying the Jews and the Mt. Sinai covenant they agreed to with the One True God.

He will be killed for his claim, and brought back to life as the beast, convincing many of the world that his initial claim of having achieved God-hood to be true.

Many of the world will worship him and the image that will be made of him - which later gets incarnated by Satan making it appear to be a miracle done by the false prophet.

None of those things fit with the Muslim Mahdi, Isa, Dajjal theory.

Islam itself will end when the Gog/Magog event takes place when God defends Israel by supernatural ways, proving Islam to the muslims to be lie. In the aftermath, some will become Christians, others may think the Antichrist is the true messiah, and others will end up following the beast. But Islam the religion itself with all its lying prophecies will no longer be a concern following Gog/Magog.

Dajjal with 30 thousands Jews is a crap story to hide the beast. They also said the sun will rise from the west.

Its Jesus who Will be accused as dajjal and how they gonna do that is easy as the devil is king of all lies. Some radical rabbies hv accused Jesus as being Burnt in hell now. Some said Jesus married Magdalena and had children. Everything can be lies.

The picture of Jesus with sickle is only symbolic of Rapture. Not the 2nd coming. as Revelation 19 doesnt describe Jesus holding sickle.

After Gog battle the false prophet Will claim that Allah give them victory. So their religion replace Judaism as planned.

Antichrist is not the Mahdi, its the 2 nd beast who Will pretend as Elijah and Mahdi as well so as to replace Judaism. The 1st beast Will come from fake church of Christianity and Will empower the 2nd beast.
 
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The picture of Jesus with sickle is only symbolic of Rapture. Not the 2nd coming. as Revelation 19 doesnt describe Jesus holding sickle.
No, not the rapture, because an angel does not instruct Jesus when to come for the resurrection/rapture. Jesus acts directly from the Father when to come for the resurrection/rapture.

I agree that Jesus is not describe as holding a sickle in Revelation 19. Instead, Jesus is described as out of his mouth going a sharp sword to smite the nations. Jesus will judge them by speaking.

Revelation 19, Jesus's return to earth, is 45 days after the appearance of him in heaven by earth dwellers, of him holding the sickle.

The 45 days is the amount of time given for the kings of the earth to assemble their armies at Armageddon to make war on Jesus.

Here is a timeline chart I made, showing the 45 days and why 45 days.


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Its Jesus who Will be accused as dajjal and how they gonna do that is easy.
How is that possible as Jesus does not return to this earth until Revelation 19 coming from heaven?

While in muslim dajjal comes out of the middle east, not heaven.

No-one is going to be saying on the day Jesus returns - oh look it is the dajjal.
 
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