• Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.

  • CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.
  • We hope the site problems here are now solved, however, if you still have any issues, please start a ticket in Contact Us

WTC 9/11 to prepare the stage for the 2nd Beast of Revelation

Status
Not open for further replies.

Oseas

Well-Known Member
Jun 23, 2017
2,409
203
89
Joinville
✟132,526.00
Country
Brazil
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
According the Holy Scriptures, inspired by the Holy Spirit, the only people of the world which knew a legitimate true Messiah, and now, according the Word of GOD, will know a false messiah, it is the Jewish people.
Revelation 13:v.11-18:

To clarify

In the post above I meant "legitimate and NATIVE true Messiah", and now, even now, according the Word of GOD, will know a NATIVE false messiah, it is the Jewish people. By the way, the MAN Beast of the earth, the false messiah, was born in Israel decades ago and MUST manifest himself in the days ahead.
 
Upvote 0

Douggg

anytime rapture, non-dispensationalist, futurist
May 28, 2009
30,272
3,595
Non-dispensationalist
✟435,184.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Private
By the way, the MAN Beast of the earth, the false messiah, was born in Israel decades ago and MUST manifest himself in the days ahead.
The second beast coming out of the earth (figuratively, representing Israel). Later referred to in Revelation as the false prophet. Probably in his 40's, 50's now. I don't think he will show until right after or right before the Gog/Magog event, presenting himself as Elijah the prophet.
 
Upvote 0

Douggg

anytime rapture, non-dispensationalist, futurist
May 28, 2009
30,272
3,595
Non-dispensationalist
✟435,184.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Private
Not me personally, but the biblical Chronology proves that we are in the beginning of the FIRST century of the seventh and last millennium, or seventh and last Day, the Lord's Day and GOD's rest as He has planned since the beginning.
No, it doesn't, Oseas.

The first century of the last millennium does not begin until Jesus returns.

We are though in the final days of the time of the gentiles - of Luke 21;

24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
 
Upvote 0

JSRG

Well-Known Member
Apr 14, 2019
2,436
1,568
Midwest
✟245,266.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Single
View attachment 320501

Possible name of the Beast?
I've seen this claim before. The problem is that the actual name for Allah doesn't look at anything like that. Here's how it's written:


To get to that image you posted from that, you have to do some editing of the above image (for example, tilting it), and then on top of that there isn't any "X" at all. That comes into the image through the addition of two scimitars (that's what makes the X-shaped thing). One has to make so many alterations to this to make it resemble the Greek symbols that it is hard to take the assertion seriously.
 

Attachments

  • upload_2022-9-5_13-9-45.png
    upload_2022-9-5_13-9-45.png
    133.6 KB · Views: 14
  • Useful
Reactions: Douggg
Upvote 0

Chris Thomas Shepherd

Active Member
Jul 24, 2022
144
36
62
Pacific Northwest
✟34,274.00
Country
Canada
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Whoever that man is - it appears that the number of his name is of extreme importance to him since that will be the criteria to buy or sell.

And also that he elevates his name in such a way, is that the three displays to buy or sell - all are attached to his name.

1. his name
2. the number of his name, 666
3. the mark of his name (Revelation 14:11)

______________________________________________________

In Revelation, his name is actually never mentioned. Which of course is why we are trying to figure it out.

In Revelation 10:4, John was told not to write down what the seven thunders uttered. It may be because those utterances contained the actual name of the beast person.... maybe, I don't know... it is a possibility.
In the time of the Antichrist, many tribulations will afflict the world. Natural disasters of all sorts will inundate the populace of earth.
In the US, where the Antichrist will hold power, many people will have limited access to goods, and the Antichrist will order that only those that follow him will receive relief.
People will have to wear caps with his name or logo emblazoned across their foreheads or bands across their wrists in order to receive food, water and necessary supplies.
This will begin in July 2065.
 
Upvote 0

Douggg

anytime rapture, non-dispensationalist, futurist
May 28, 2009
30,272
3,595
Non-dispensationalist
✟435,184.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Private
In the time of the Antichrist, many tribulations will afflict the world. Natural disasters of all sorts will inundate the populace of earth.
In the US, where the Antichrist will hold power, many people will have limited access to goods, and the Antichrist will order that only those that follow him will receive relief.
People will have to wear caps with his name or logo emblazoned across their foreheads or bands across their wrists in order to receive food, water and necessary supplies.
This will begin in July 2065.
Chris, when Jesus returns, where will he return to ? Jerusalem or some place in North America?
 
Upvote 0

Chris Thomas Shepherd

Active Member
Jul 24, 2022
144
36
62
Pacific Northwest
✟34,274.00
Country
Canada
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Chris, when Jesus returns, where will he return to ? Jerusalem or some place in North America?
He will return to the Middle East at the end of a horrific World War. Jesus and his 144000, will literally return upon the clouds. Since God is light, Jesus will return during an immense solar flaring incident that not only lights up the sky with Aurora, but knocks out all electric systems on the planet.
 
Upvote 0

Oseas

Well-Known Member
Jun 23, 2017
2,409
203
89
Joinville
✟132,526.00
Country
Brazil
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Here my opinion quickly...

mahdī, (Arabic: “guided one”) in Islamic eschatology, a messianic deliverer who will fill earth with justice and equity, restore true religion, and usher in a short golden age lasting seven, eight, or nine years before the end of the world

1. Jews dont believe Jesus is the messiah, so they are still waiting for one.
2. Jews think the messiah has returned, and appoint him leader.(Think just a person from the line of david, nothing to do with antichrist or messiah)

Yes, that's your opinion, surely, your thinking is from a human perspective, not from GOD's perspective. By your own words, the Islamic eschatology is FAKE, it's a cunningly devised fable and will never fulfill.
See, what we are commenting is about the eschatology based in the Word of GOD, the Holy Scriptures, not in Islamic eschatology wich has nothing to do with the Word of GOD.

Regardings your point 1: Yes, what you said is true; ".Jews dont believe Jesus is the messiah, so they are still waiting for one." Is it written in the Word of GOD? Yes, it is. Even JESUS said: John 5:v.43-47:
43 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if ANOTHER (a false messiah, AN IMPOSTOR", a CHARLATAN, but the false messiah is also a Jewish Man) shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.

44 How can ye believe, which receive honour one of another, and seek not the honour that cometh from GOD only? (The Word is GOD)

45 Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust.

46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me; for he wrote of me.

47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?


Regardings your point 2:
No, the Jews will not think the messiah return, but that their hope and belief is fulfilled when the JEWISH false messiah manifest himself among them. By the way, this MAN already was born and is among them, and at any moment he may manifest himself in Jerusalem, the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt-Revelation 11:v.8

2 Thessalonians 2:v.3-4&9-12
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that MAN of sin be revealed, the SON of perdition;
Who (will) oppose(th) and exalt(eth) himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God (will) sit(teth) in the temple of God -JERUSALEM-, shewing himself that he is God.

9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
 
Upvote 0

Oseas

Well-Known Member
Jun 23, 2017
2,409
203
89
Joinville
✟132,526.00
Country
Brazil
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
I agree.
The number 666, is actually the Roman numeral equivalent or DCLXVI, since that was the numbering system of the time.
In the KJV, the number is actually six hundred threescore and six, so it now becomes
DC LX VI Washington (DC) elect 51
The Antichrist will be the 51st president of the United States.

Chris, please, what is that? The Word of GOD -the Word is GOD- is speaking of a MAN Beast, actually a Gentile Beast, the Beast of sea, a religious and SATANIC MONSTER having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

How can you write stuff like that, Chris? What you wrote is not true, but fake. Our GOD said: "he that hath my Word, let him speak my word faithfully. What is the chaff to the wheat? saith the Lord.
 
Upvote 0

Oseas

Well-Known Member
Jun 23, 2017
2,409
203
89
Joinville
✟132,526.00
Country
Brazil
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
While I agree with you that 9/11 is pivotal, I believe that it signified the start of the end times.
Daniel 8 refers to a battle between a two-horned Ram vs a Goat.
The 2 horns of the Ram are Osama bin Laden (Al Qaeda) and Saddam Hussein (Iraq). The Goat is the US (and its military). a
The horns are the four presidents that served during this time frame:
George HW Bush is the large horn of biblical prophecy (Daniel 8:8) who, through polling, was the most popular president ever, but ended his term broken - losing the election as one of the most unpopular presidents of all time.
In his place came 4 prominent horns (leaders): Clinton, Bush Jr., Obama and Trump.
Per Daniel 8:9 Out of one of them came a rather small horn (a son) who will grow exceedingly great.
Well, who among these 4 presidents sired a son? Only one! It is my belief that the little horn of biblical infamy is one of the sons of this president who is a legendary fabricator of 'truth'.
This little horn will grow to be exceedingly great. He will be known by the roman numeral DC LX VI (666) - Washington DC elects 51- he will be elected the 51st president of the USA on November 2nd 2060. Not only that, but the number of the beast is a human number. What is more of a human number than a man's age?
Well, there is one son whose age will be exactly 666 Holy months (30 day months) [the 1st day of the 666th month of his life] on that election day.

Why to write a lot of things which are not true? What spirit is that? Your thinking is from a human perspective, a stumblingblock, not from GOD's perspective. Matthew 16:v.22-23.
 
Upvote 0

Chris Thomas Shepherd

Active Member
Jul 24, 2022
144
36
62
Pacific Northwest
✟34,274.00
Country
Canada
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Why to write a lot of things which are not true? What spirit is that? Your thinking is from a human perspective, a stumblingblock, not from GOD's perspective. Matthew 16:v.22-23.
Oseas, this is my interpretation of the meaning of the biblical prophecy. I wrote a book where biblical prophecy was translated into terms that people of this age can understand.
The Holy Spirit was with me during this process, of that I have absolutely no doubt. I can share some of the blessed interactions with the Holy Spirit, but of course, I unfortunately cannot prove it to you.
 
Upvote 0

Oseas

Well-Known Member
Jun 23, 2017
2,409
203
89
Joinville
✟132,526.00
Country
Brazil
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Whoever that man is - it appears that the number of his name is of extreme importance to him since that will be the criteria to buy or sell.

And also that he elevates his name in such a way, is that the three displays to buy or sell - all are attached to his name.

1. his name
2. the number of his name, 666
3. the mark of his name (Revelation 14:11)
______________________________________________________

In Revelation, his name is actually never mentioned. Which of course is why we are trying to figure it out.

In Revelation 10:4, John was told not to write down what the seven thunders uttered. It may be because those utterances contained the actual name of the beast person.... maybe, I don't know... it is a possibility.

The NAME of BLASPHEMY of the Beast is placed in his SEVEN HEADS. And the NUMBER of his NAME of BLASPHEMY is 666. What is the NAME of blasphemy of the Beast?
 
Upvote 0

Chris Thomas Shepherd

Active Member
Jul 24, 2022
144
36
62
Pacific Northwest
✟34,274.00
Country
Canada
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Chris, please, what is that? The Word of GOD -the Word is GOD- is speaking of a MAN Beast, actually a Gentile Beast, the Beast of sea, a religious and SATANIC MONSTER having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

How can you write stuff like that, Chris? What you wrote is not true, but fake. Our GOD said: "he that hath my Word, let him speak my word faithfully. What is the chaff to the wheat? saith the Lord.
Oseas, the Beast from the Sea and the Beast from the Earth are not literal beasts. Their nature's are beastly, but when the passage says 'seven heads and ten horns', it is talking about seven major entities (churches, nations...) and ten leaders (presidents, popes, prime ministers).
In the case of the Beast from the Sea, I believe the ten 'horns' are 10 US end-time presidents, starting with George W Bush who was the first president in the end-time (which started on September 11 2001).
 
Upvote 0

Chris Thomas Shepherd

Active Member
Jul 24, 2022
144
36
62
Pacific Northwest
✟34,274.00
Country
Canada
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
The NAME of BLASPHEMY of the Beast is placed in his SEVEN HEADS. And the NUMBER of his NAME of BLASPHEMY is 666. What is the NAME of blasphemy of the Beast?
More specifically, B.W. TRUMP
 
Upvote 0

Oseas

Well-Known Member
Jun 23, 2017
2,409
203
89
Joinville
✟132,526.00
Country
Brazil
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
The second beast coming out of the earth (figuratively, representing Israel).
Yes, earth really represents Israel figuratively, as the same manner "Agar represents mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children" -Galatians 4:v.25.

Later referred to in Revelation as the false prophet. Probably in his 40's, 50's now. I don't think he will show until right after or right before the Gog/Magog event, presenting himself as Elijah the prophet

What does the Word of GOD say? The last week 70th is divided in two halfs of 3,5 years. The last week is the last seven years of the current world of Devil. If the last week(I said If) begins in the next year, the world of the Devil will end in 2030. JESUS said: these days will be shortened, yes, for the elect's sake these days shall be shortened. In my vision seven years, no more, no more. In my vision, the last Pope MUST be elected in the days ahead. And the next and last Pope MAY be NICKNAMED as Paul VII, as is written, "The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman-the Great harlot- sitteth. And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh-THE SEVENTH-, he must continue a short space".

Yes, short space of time-3,5 years, or half of week-42 months or 1260 days-Revelation 11:v.1-2:
1 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of GOD -JERUSALEM-, and the altar, and them that worship therein.
2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months. (Here's the first half of the week 70th. AFTERWARDS, the second half starts and it will be ruled by THE FALSE MESSIAH-the Beast of the earth who speaks as Dragon-Revelation 13:v.11-18)

And JESUS warned: Then if any man (Pastors, and Bishops, and TV Evangelists, or elseone) say unto you (EVEN ON THE PULPIT OF THE CHURCH), Lo, here is Christ, or there; BELIEVE IT NOT.(Certainly, they will try to sell oil out of the time-Matthew 25:v.6-10).

For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets(include the FALSE MESSIAH-the MAN Beast of the earth like a lamb, like a messiah-Revelation 13:v.11-18), and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. Behold, I have told you before -Matthew 24:v.23-25.

The battle is and will be against THREE UNCLEAN SPIRITS LIKE FROGS-Revelation 16:v.13 to 15:
13 And I saw three unclean spirits LIKE FROGS (Why frogs?) come out of the MOUTH of the Dragon, and out of the MOUTH of the Beast(Beast of sea), and out of the MOUTH of the false prophet. (The GOD's people MUST take care, be careful, with the preachers AND SPEECH OF the MOUTH of this SATANIC TRINITY) THREE UNCLEAN SPIRITS LIKE FROGS - WHY FROGS? | Pure Bible Forum (and see www.sinaiticus.net )

14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great Day of God Almighty. (The Lord's Day)

15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
Similarity between passing by the Red Sea and by the Red Dragon | Pure Bible Forum (and see www.sinaiticus.net )
 
Upvote 0

Oseas

Well-Known Member
Jun 23, 2017
2,409
203
89
Joinville
✟132,526.00
Country
Brazil
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Upvote 0
Status
Not open for further replies.