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Just right up this thread . You posted right after it. I think some ego crept into the post that confused you as I was getting pretty amused by you two not understanding me, and I shouldn't have made it a little confusing but even then you're smart enough to understand it.Which post is that?
I quoted your post in it's entirety, GaryIt is what you said.
Yes, and after a little research it was obvious thatJust right up this thread . You posted right after it.
Gary, the "that" which you say we cannot do refers to "break Sabbath rest to save spiritual life".
Gary, my man, if it were just you and me talking here on CF, I could suspect that I was losing my mind.I think some ego crept into the post that confused you as I was getting pretty amused by you two not understanding me, and I shouldn't have made it a little confusing but even then you're smart enough to understand it.
Oh, well. Most of the Sabbath keepers here have the same thing said about them. It was obvious that what?Yes, and after a little research it was obvious that
Gary, my man, if it were just you and me talking here on CF, I could suspect that I was losing my mind.
However, given that I have encountered two other users - people who are known for writing carefully reasoned posts -
who have had exchanges with you which left them saying in so many words that you are irrational, I'm going to go with what amounts to three witnesses
I love you, man
This wasn't an easy post to write.
Oh, well. Most of the Sabbath keepers here have the same thing said about them. It was obvious that what?
My meaning is that it's impossible to break the Sabbath by spreading the Gospel, i. e, discussing God. How anyone can think that is breaking the Sabbath is beyond me. But if you want to believe that makes me irrational have at it.
That is completely in agreement with my behavior as I routinely come here to discuss the Sabbath on Sabbath.
No, it wasn't until you contradicted yourself more than once and then denied saying things you obviously said.So, I guess that you've considered me irrational from the first I came here...
...on Sabbath and discussed the Sabbath and you will continue to do that every time I do it in the future. ***shrugs***
I have not contradicted myself. I showed you the explanation and you still can not believe it. Like I've said you are sm positive your view is the only correct one that even multiple times of being told I never said it you don't believe me. Sorry, but that looks like a case of being fully indoctrinated as people who have been thoroughly brainwashed become unable to understand anything which contradicts what they were indoctrinated into. They literally become unable to understand what they read or hear.No, it wasn't until you contradicted yourself more than once and then denied saying things you obviously said.
I have not contradicted myself. I showed you the explanation and you still can not believe it. Like I've said you are sm positive your view is the only correct one that...
I don't believe you because I found the place where you said it...even multiple times of being told I never said it you don't believe me.
Sorry, but that looks like a case of being fully indoctrinated as people who have been thoroughly brainwashed become unable to understand anything which contradicts what they were indoctrinated into. They literally become unable to understand what they read or hear.
Quote it to me. Prove me wrong. If I've been wrong about this all this time I want to know about it so I can apologize..I don't believe you because I found the place where you said it
But if you want to believe I'm fully indoctrinated, that's fine.
Peace be with you, my friend!
Bible Gateway passage: Luke 24:36 - New International Reader's Version
Jesus Appears to the Disciples - The disciples were still talking about this when Jesus himself suddenly stood among them. He said, “May you have peace!”www.biblegateway.com
We've been over this already, Gary. You can always scroll back up through the thread when you wishQuote it to me. Prove me wrong. If I've been wrong about this all this time I want to know about it so I can apologize..
Don't get hung up on the act, but mowing a lawn or another servent led task may be used as a mechanism for access into someone's life. That access may be used to share the gospel where otherwise that door was closed because not everyone welcomes the unsolicited gospel the same way but most react favourably to acts in kind. So mowing the law is not about mowing the law, it's about connecting with someone.How is mowing some random lawn, saving a spiritual life?
Great! Then please explain the following exchange.
I extended you this invitation
You responded with
That indicates that you don't believe that saving life on the Sabbath is acceptable.
So I said
Then you said this
So something weird is going on there, Gary my man
Gary, the "that" which you say we cannot do refers to "break Sabbath rest to save spiritual life".
Again, something weird is going on.
That's such an obvious answer I couldn't believe you asked the question. No, we cannot break the Sabbath rest to do that. That is part and parcel of resting on Sabbath.
Christ said it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath. The conversation was never about breaking the Sabbath, but breaking rest to do good while still being lawful as Christ says.Conclusion: So, no, doing that (aka saving spiritual life) on the Sabbath day will not result in an SDA breaking the Sabbath.
Christ said it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath. The conversation was never about breaking the Sabbath, but breaking rest to do good while still being lawful as Christ says.
Works are evidence of your faith.
Romans 2:13
Lawkeeping alone will not justify them, but God expects that someone who has faith in Christ to keep His law. Therefore it is good to do it because works are evidence of what one has faith in. Without works, God would never be sure.
My language has always been about breaking rest not about breaking the Sabbath. Gary has rejected the idea of breaking rest to do this and also rejected saying this and I can't get more clarity so had to abandon my efforts. He may view aspects innate to the Sabbath but (in my interpretation of what he's saying) with the caveat that you may not break rest. That may be nice, but that's not the question, the question is about breaking rest....Yes, so if I understood correctly what Gary meant there, if you are only talking about doing good as saving spiritual life, he is agreeing with you.
How did I know you wouldn't quote me? I've already reread this entire thread and I've never said what you and DamianWarS claim I did. Guojing and I agree on hardly anything but he says I'm telling the truth.We've been over this already, Gary. You can always scroll back up through the thread when you wish
Let's praise the Lord together. Here's two threads that I post on sometimes, but I'd like to post on a lot more often
a song! Let us sing on behalf of the saints, and bring delights to our Lord.
Jesus loves me, this I know, for the Bible tells me so. Little ones to him belong; they are weak, but he is strong. Yes, Jesus loves me! Yes, Jesus loves me! Yes, Jesus loves me! The Bible tells me so.www.christianforums.com
and DamianWarS claim IVerses of Praise/Encouragement
Hallelujah! I will give thanks to the Lord with my whole heart, in the council of the upright, and in the congregation. Psalm 111www.christianforums.com
Guojing and I agree on hardly anything but he says I'm telling the truth.
Yeah, it would be really stupid and hypocritical to say that saving phsical life is more important than spiritual life and I have said long ago here that I agree that it is good to save physical life and not think it's OK to save spiritual life.I think what Gary is trying to imply by his statement is this
Premise: Saving spiritual life is part and parcel of "resting on Sabbath"
Conclusion: So, no, doing that (aka saving spiritual life) on the Sabbath day will not result in an SDA breaking the Sabbath.
So you can keep the Sabbath and still save spiritual life on the Sabbath day.
So you saying you understand what I meant that it's OK to save spiritual life on Sabbath doesn't mean I'm not lying about what I said? Your sarcasm is getting pretty thick.As I said, you have a very unique way of understanding what other people meant in their forum posts.
Just because I understand what you are saying, does not imply I am saying you are telling the truth.
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