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Let's review. You asserted, "satin [sic] will still tempt us in every way, but Jesus can and will keep us from falling. Jn 3:16." To which I replied, "John 3:16 doesn't say anything about keeping us from falling." To which you responded, "Sorry spark, it doesn't have to.")

It's apparent that you realize how absurd your contention that John 3:16 has something to do with Jesus keeping us from falling, that your original "defense"—if one can call it that—acknowledged that the text didn't have to have anything to do with your contention. "Sorry spark, it doesn't have to," is the most brazen response which only a false teacher would employ.
Jn3:16 does not have to say Jesus will keep us from falling, it is implied. I stand by my statement. Do you believe Jesus will keep us from falling? It seems like Adventism believes it is by your works of the old covenant law that assures eternal life. Read what Paul has to write about works of the Law. A good place to start is the book of Galatians.
This is funny and is yet further proof of the cultic nature of your position. When someone is cornered in their false teachings they will likely do what you just did above. No where in the context of our discussion has the issue of tithing been brought up. But in a wild attempt to change the subject you just threw out a random topic. That is a typical cultic distraction technique.
The reason I included the paragraphs about you and the SDA church teaching a falsehood that we must tithe and observe a day given only to Israel or lose our eternal inheritance was to show who really is teaching falsehood. My statements were right on the topic of the OP
 
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