Tamara224
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Actually you won't.
Of course not. Neither will you find the any passages meeting those qualifications with regard to men. That's my point.
Irrelevant. The current priesthood isn't according to the Levitical order.There is no mention of women as priestesses when the Levitical/Aaronic priesthood was established.
Yes there is.Nor is there any mention of women priestesses in Scripture regarding our High Priest, Jesus, in the order of Melchizedek.
5 you also, like living stones, are being built into a spiritual house to be a holy priesthood, offering spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ.
9 But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, God’s special possession, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light.
(1 Peter 2)
Which part in that says this applies only to men? It's ALL believers, male and female. (1 Peter 2)
So, now you're claiming you got a direct word from God that He asked you to deliver to people on this topic?You're making a very serious charge against your sisters and brothers in Christ who disagree with your interpretation of Scripture.
Serious charge?...gimmee a break!
Ever heard the term "Don't shoot the messenger?"
Forgive me if I don't just accept your word for it.
I would challenge you, therefore, to provide the Scripture references on which you base you claim.
I've asked you to please provide me with Scripture that shows women leading men in worship as priests or priestesses in the churches/synagogues.
Where, exactly, are those "parameters" set forth in Scripture?
Start in Genesis, Sister and read forward.
No, to be perfectly honest, I've not noticed that at all. Furthermore, I don't think it can be proven.
Well, it's happening. I don't have to prove it. Time will take care of that.
On the contrary, I believe the weight of the historical evidence shows that when women are allowed the freedom to operate in the Gifts and Callings with which God has gifted and called them, the fruit of their ministry is undeniably good.
I never said anything about women not having gifts of the Spirit or not being called to ministry. Women can not lead men in worship before God.
You claim your point of view is the THE ONLY Biblical view and you have completely and utterly failed to provide any Scriptural support for that.
First, I think the way you've worded this is intentionally tailored narrowly so that it is impossible to answer. And so I would challenge you to provide Scripture wherein a man is a priest leading men in worship before God in church/synagogue.
Are you kidding? Jesus when He went to Nazareth. Paul in Thessalonica. Zechariah at the temple in Jerusalem. Levite priests at King Hezekiah's order in the temple.
It's funny you should mention this because although Paul allows (concedes/states) that God uses women to utter prophecy, I don't find in Scripture one woman prophet uttering prophecy in the temple or any synagogue. Ana was in the temple compound however so maybe we could consider her...
What's your hang up with the Temple/synagogue? Can you show me any Scripture that says we must meet in those places? Can you show me any Scripture which says only when believers meet together in a specific type of building will the gender rules apply? You do know that most of the early Christian church met in people's homes, right?
And we definitely should consider Anna. A propehet prophesying in the Temple surely meets your qualifications.
A prophetess, however, is not a priestess. Prophecy is also from God's direction to the people, not from the people to God. BTW do you cover your head in worship before God? Just a question on the side.
And all of which has nothing to do with women leading men in worship before God. I have yet to witness a woman speaking in tongues during worship with interpretation and without an interpreter, it's just gibberish.
Yes, each of us is a part of the Body of Christ. Again, a prophet (man or woman) is not a priest/priestess. What goes before God from man in worship is to be pure and holy. God can use anyone He wants to deliver prophecy. After what Eve did, a woman leading a man before God is offensive to Him.
Your idea of what a "priest" is doesn't come from Scripture.
Prophecy is not "used in worship". Prophecy is given by God to man. You're getting the direction confused.
23 So if the whole church comes together and everyone speaks in tongues, and inquirers or unbelievers come in, will they not say that you are out of your mind? 24 But if an unbeliever or an inquirer comes in while everyone is prophesying, they are convicted of sin and are brought under judgment by all, 25 as the secrets of their hearts are laid bare. So they will fall down and worship God, exclaiming, “God is really among you!”
Look at that! Prophecy is used to lead people to fall down and worship God!
And we know that women were expected to be among the "everyone" who is prophesying. Therefore, there's your example of women leading men in worship before God.
No he doesn't. He also doesn't say that women can be priests or lead men in worship.
And Miriam got smacked down big time for that!Exodus 15
Look, no offense, but I don't think you have. You have demanded Scriptural support from others and yet have not had the courtesy to provide support yourself. I don't view that as an honest response.I've tried to respond to you as honestly as I can.
Uh, nope, try again. You're human, not God. Your understanding of Scripture is no more infallible than anyone else's.I don't interpret Scripture. I take my Scripture straight up, not watered down or worse, on the rocks! It is what it is.
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