Why worry about the Ten Commandments, if you are disregarding the Sabbath?

wild01 · Apr 12, 2006

woobadooba said:
That's great! But just keep in mind that God's rest is in a particular day.

"Thus the heavens and the earth were completed in all their vast array. By the seventh day God had finished the work he had been doing; so on the seventh day he rested from all his work. And God blessed the seventh day and made it holy, because on it he rested from all the work of creating that he had done." Gen. 2:1-3

And if we love God we will remember the day in which He rested, and sanctified, thus honoring it, and keeping it holy like He told us to do.

woo,
here are good resources to study on this subject if you have any questions please don't hesitate to ask
http://www.wcg.org/lit/law/default.htm

Jesus Is Real · Apr 12, 2006

http://www.christianforums.com/showpost.php?p=23371380&postcount=976

Post updated as per Woo's request,.....I can be submitted in Love towards you as unto
The Lord. And thanks~

God Richly Bless you Woo,
connie

woobadooba · Apr 12, 2006

woobadooba · Apr 12, 2006

Jesus Is Real said:
http://www.christianforums.com/showpost.php?p=23371380&postcount=976

Post updated as per Woo's request,.....I can be submitted in Love towards you as unto
The Lord. And thanks~

God Richly Bless you Woo,
connie

Thank you.

I just want to add that just because a person does not agree with what someone says is
a doctrine of the Bible, that doesn't mean he/she isn't a part of the body of Christ.

We are all on different levels of knowledge in our walk with God. Some are more advanced than others. But no matter how advanced we think we are, we should never imply that we are closer to God than our so-believed inferiors are. For, those whom we would dare to think are inferior to us in our walk with God may very well be far more advanced than we are.

It's when we know that something is true, but refuse to humble ourselves to receive it, that we find ourselves standing outside of the body of Christ. In other words, it's not the lack of knowledge that puts us there, but the lack of will.

We need to study these things out thoroughly and prayerfully to discover the truth.

Jesus Is Real · Apr 12, 2006

woobadooba said:
Thank you.

I just want to add that just because a person does not agree with what someone says is
a doctrine of the Bible, that doesn't mean he/she isn't a part of the body of Christ.

We are all on different levels of knowledge in our walk with God. Some are more advanced than others.

It's when we know that something is true, but refuse to humble ourselves to receive it, that we find ourselves standing outside of the body of Christ.

We need to study these things out thoroughly and prayerfully to discover the truth.

red (above):

Wooba,

never said this!~
I don't anyone have here. Has any?

But,...this is NOT about your Salvation - your deliverance from Egypt.

It's about this whole Topic,...about entering in God's 7th Day Rest - which is "a Day" Victorious. Being Victorious "in Christ".

Christ Jesus our Lord is The 7th Day Sabbath and Christ is Lord Over All. Jesus Christ is THE DAY!!!

What do we all think the Old Testament is talking about? It's talking about BEING IN CHRIST.
About Entering In Christ.
Worshipping In Christ.
Loving In Christ.
Hoping In Christ.
Having Peace In Christ.

Our whole Lives is ABOUT CHRIST.
We live or die now, in Christ and unto Him.
No man stands or falls without Him - He's THE LORD NOW!!!
He always Has been LORD....He's just brought us in to know HIM.
We Follow Him now and if we follow Him,.....He is able to make us stand or fall. He gave us Apostles-teachers to each us that the Old Testament is all ABOUT BEING SAVED FROM GOD'S WRATH IN CHRIST. HE IS OUR SALVATION,.....HE IS EVERYTHING WHAT GOD WAS TALKING ABOUT TO MOSES AND THE PROPHETS.

JESUS IS LORD.

Peace be unto you,
Connie

Jesus Is Real · Apr 12, 2006

woobadooba said:
Thank you.

I just want to add that just because a person does not agree with what someone says is
a doctrine of the Bible, that doesn't mean he/she isn't a part of the body of Christ.

We are all on different levels of knowledge in our walk with God. Some are more advanced than others. But no matter how advanced we think we are, we should never imply that we are closer to God than our so-believed inferiors are. For, those whom we would dare to think are inferior to us in our walk with God may very well be far more advanced than we are.

It's when we know that something is true, but refuse to humble ourselves to receive it, that we find ourselves standing outside of the body of Christ. In other words, it's not the lack of knowledge that puts us there, but the lack of will.

We need to study these things out thoroughly and prayerfully to discover the truth.

Woo,

Forgive me for such a long post~~

By the Grace of God given me:
We study to show ourselves approved unto God,....not to each other Woo. This is why others Faith in God through Christ is Strong. Because they have studied and by His Spirit He's leading us all to put to death the deeds of the flesh: This is THE SEVENETH DAY SABBATH. And it's little by little,...it's not all at once. If you can hear this.

Some are Resting from their own works, little by little: (unforgiveness, rejection, fear, Pride, Deciding to Separate, Eve-Rebellion, A Clayey foundation and from what a enemies also that troddens down lives in sexual defilements) to Live a Life that has never been lived before which is removing, IN THE SEVENETH DAY REST, all the living-life-forms that looks like a devil. For they are devils,.....a whole land full of demons. Jesus said they defiles us and that there were much He could say but without the Holy Spirit we couldn't have bore this kind of message to know how infested the Human Race Has become. God wants us to come out of Babylon to Enter INTO HIM.

Rev 18:1-2
Revelation 18

18:1 After these things I saw another angel coming down from heaven, having great authority, and the earth was illumined with his glory.

2 And he cried out with a mighty voice, saying, "Fallen, fallen is Babylon the great! She has become a dwelling place of demons and a prison of every unclean spirit, and a prison of every unclean and hateful bird.
NASU

The Seveneth Day Sabbath (((not all at once and at one moment in time))) is God removing from our lives everything that can't go to Heaven - that must not stay on the Promised Land - in the Heart of man which defiles Him.

The Seveneth Day Sabbath is God through His Spirit and Purifying His Bride and teaching her How to make herself ready as well. God Brings us into His Work!!!

So,....it's a Faith in God through Christ Walk....It's a walk, it's not a done deal all at once. We must let patience have her perfect work who bring tribulation in our lives so that we might learn patience. So that the Whole Land of Israel (all Believers) might Have HER REST IN GOD.

But it's little by little....and so the Old Testament and Prophets speaks about from one Sabbath to another,....because The Lord won't remove the enemies from off the land all at once. It's a little at a time.

And this Gospel of the Kingdom will be preached into all the world and then the end will come,.....when the Whole Body of Christ is in the Unity of the Faith.

In His Love,
connie

fyi: Wooba.......I keep telling you these things because you can hear them...but it's a walk. And my own Patience must win out for my own land's Sake,....even if no one else gets it....though many have in Truth and In Unfeigned Love of the Brethren.
Please receive me in Love~ you know I can love in 'deed' using my own 10 fingers and hands and feet to do good to others in Charity.
Share with you later, chow girl!

Jesus Is Real · Apr 12, 2006

jochanaan said:
Jesus Is Real, I regret that you seem to have such a negative impression of Sabbathkeepers. It is true that many people with harsh, legalistic temperaments have also honored the seventh-day Sabbath; yet not all of us subscribe to a theology that would condemn anyone who does not keep the Sabbath to hell.

I fully believe and understand that Jesus' work on the Cross means that we don't have to do good works or keep every law to gain our salvation, and I praise His Name that He has saved us! And in gratitude and love, I willingly obey a few simple rules that I understand He has given us for our benefit: I put nothing ahead of Him; I don't worship other images or use His name lightly or scornfully; I honor my parents and my neighbor's life, spouse, and property; I refrain from falsehood and excessive desire for anything except a closer relationship with my Heavenly Father; and I rest and worship on the day that many affirm is the Biblical Sabbath. Others may choose to do otherwise, and I will still accept them as brothers/sisters in Christ. For myself, though, I do my best to live by God's principles.

And just as not killing, stealing, committing adultery and the rest has great benefits to me in the form of better relationships with my fellow humans, so keeping God's Sabbath has enhanced my relationship with Him Who ordained it.

Again, I keep the Sabbath not from legalism or misplaced works-righteousness, but because I have found it a good thing to praise God and remember Him on the day He ordained for it. I regret any appearance otherwise, Jesus Is Real, and I ask your forgiveness if I have ever said anything that could be interpreted as condemnation toward you.

jochanaan,
NP!

Your not causing this to happen with me:

I have forgiven you....oh I believe I already told you that.....or was it someone else. *chuckles*** But no worries!!!~

Anyway~ Then walk in forgiveness when others don't do as you do, as you believe it needs to look in the natural,...as you have always. And we together will have His Peace always in our Midst.

But now, we all must enter into God's Rest and Work upon the Land as He Leads. I'm only here to speak on this Walk in Love for God and our Neighbor for it truly causes us to Purify our hearts (the land) where our Love will turn into Righteous Deeds as unto the Lord that will also bless others.

God is able to make us all Stand or Fall.
Let's let God stay Judge ok?
But since you have presummed upon me again in your first sentence,....I again Forgive you in advanced! And each time I do: You are seeing HIS SEVENETH DAY REST in me and offered towards you.

Peace,
connie

Jesus Is Real · Apr 12, 2006

woobadooba said:
...

*chucklessssss

What's this mean?
Teacher,.....please teach me!!

(smiling at ya Wooba)
Ron and I have your user names' song in Star Trek's "First Contact" Movie.
We own it.....come over and I'll make the Pop-Corn~

Chris you like Icon? How about this one,....no private message in this pic it's just cute.

woobadooba · Apr 12, 2006

Jesus Is Real said:
Jesus Is Real said:

red (above):

Wooba,

never said this!~
I don't anyone have here. Has any?

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Connie, you may not have directly said that I am not a part of the body of Christ, but you certainly implied it.

You see, that is the nice thing about CF posting. You can go back and edit what you say, but once you are quoted by someone else, your original thoughts become apparant to all.

Go back and read my quote of you in post #978, especially pay close attention to where you said the following:

"So....enter in God's Rest with us! The Body of Christ is here,...while some still need to enter in. His Whole Body is welcomed Woo where you might truly find Rest. This is a Holy Word and it's good and it's righteousness, joy and peace in the Holy Ghost."

Now then, do you still want to try to convince me that you didn't imply that I am not a part of the body of Christ?

Connie, I am very disturbed by the manner in which you talk down to me, and by the self-righteous character of your posts. As far as I am concerned we are done.

Don't expect anymore correspondence from me.

Jesus Is Real · Apr 12, 2006

woobadooba said:
Connie, you may not have directly said that I am not a part of the body of Christ, but you certainly implied it.

You see, that is the nice thing about CF posting. You can go back and edit what you say, but once you are quoted by someone else, your original thoughts become apparant to all.

Go back and read my quote of you in post #978, especially pay close attention to where you said the following:

"So....enter in God's Rest with us! The Body of Christ is here,...while some still need to enter in. His Whole Body is welcomed Woo where you might truly find Rest. This is a Holy Word and it's good and it's righteousness, joy and peace in the Holy Ghost."

Now then, do you still want to try to convince me that you didn't imply that I am not a part of the body of Christ?

Connie, I am very disturbed by the manner in which you talk down to me, and by the self-righteous character of your posts. As far as I am concerned we are done.

Don't expect anymore correspondence from me.

RED above:

NEVER! I SHOULD have A problem telling someone this...for it's not my call. If you think I am saying this to you then it's good to forgive. God is able to cause His Whole Body to stand upright or to Fall. God's the Judge my friend. GOD ALONE!!! That implication is not from my finger tips!

Or from the Love of God in my heart towards you?

Discern where your hearing this from? And slay

that enemies....for I am your Brethren in Christ as you are in mine.

Even as you Know a Jew won't walk on top of graves.
And you are NO GRAVE my friend!

Please bear with the Joyful-Nature in me!

Peace, Connie
UPDATED:

Veritas · Apr 12, 2006

Well I guess we can be thankful that this thread will soon be closed. Oh wait, won't Chrisbot or brightcandle start a new one? DANG!

Jesus Is Real · Apr 12, 2006

Veritas said:
Well I guess we can be thankful that this thread will soon be closed. Oh wait, won't Chrisbot or brightcandle start a new one? DANG!

Veritas,
Are you saying that in a slight-sarcasm?

just asking~

Jesus Is Real · Apr 12, 2006

Woobadubba,

You are so Right,....you don't have to speak to me again. And You, are once again, accusing me for saying things that I am not saying to you. And once again, I forgive. And each time I do.....you are seeing the Rest of my own works (anger, rage, unforgiveness) dead and His Life extended out to Love you as well. It's it's a Perfect Work actually for the both of us. God wants to bless us both who IS THE LORD OF THE SABBATH!!

So,....in all meedkness I say this...that you miss understand about entering into Rest - The Promised Land.

God saved a people out of Egypt....they were Saved. And this is what I'm talking about with you as is in The Bible.

Though God's Holy Spirit does warn us to not lose Faith in God:
This is my own warning as well!!!!

Jude 5
5 I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not.
KJV

So.....your Salvation from Egypt was NOT what I was addressing with you...but I addressed your enterance in the Battle "In Christ" which is entering the Promised Land and out from being in the Wilderness and entering into The Land to enter God's Rest to Work His Work (through His Spirit) which is the Seveneth Day Sabbath with Him being Co-Labours With Christ on the Land.

Ahhhh a long sentence that was, eh?

Notice all the times in the New Testament when it was Sabbath and what Jesus did or said..... It's Amazine. We had God in the Flesh walking and talking and working with His Father (and Our Father) all day long and doing Good.

Sorry you miss understood. But know this that when someone says, enter in Rest with us, is NOT saying that you aren't Saved from Egypt for they are World's Apart actually. They are saying enter in and Fight for what God has given you - remove some enemies from off your land "KEEP IT A HOLY DAY"....make yourself Ready for the LORD OF THE SABBATH!!

LET HIM TAKE THAT CLAY ON SABBATH ON OPEN YOUR EYES!
MAY HE KEEP TAKING THAT CLAY ON THE SABBATH, AS WELL, AND OPEN MY EYES to HIM MORE AND MORE!

P.S. Woobadubba......I didn't change my words to change the meaning of what I had first said......I changed the words because you wanted me too. And in love I did. You then told me thanks but now what? Are you taking it back, friend?

I got 2 Taco's left from Taco Bell yesterday,....you want one?

Cliff2 · Apr 12, 2006

Why worry about the Ten Commandments, if you are disregarding the Sabbath?

We still come down to what the topic is about.

Why keep nine if we do not keep the ten.

Veritas · Apr 12, 2006

Jesus Is Real said:
Veritas,
Are you saying that in a slight-sarcasm?

just asking~

Yeah! This topic has been hashed and re-hashed on GT for years. In the New Covenant every day is holy and for serving the Lord.

Veritas · Apr 12, 2006

Cliff2 said:
We still come down to what the topic is about.

Why keep nine if we do not keep the ten.

We do keep 10. You just don't like the day we keep one of them on.

VonKarman · Apr 12, 2006

What did Jesus say to the Pharisees who would argue about this? "I AM the Sabbath". So rather than get into a disagreement about WHICH day you choose to display your worship and/ or attend church services, remember that obedience to CHRIST is the reason we go in the first place. Is not EVERY day the day to worship and be a disciple of Christ?
I really don't get caught up in the whole rigamaroe of WHICH day to honor for church services.
Shoot, some of us need it EVERY day

Just my 2 cents.

~VonKarman

Jesus Is Real · Apr 12, 2006

Veritas said:
Yeah! This topic has been hashed and re-hashed on GT for years. In the New Covenant every day is holy and for serving the Lord.

May I comment about 'sarcasm' even how you used it in your last post? Submitted to you in Jesus' Love.

It will all tight up reading the Seveneth Day of Our Lord!

blessings,
Connie

Veritas · Apr 12, 2006

Jesus Is Real said:
May I comment about 'sarcasm' even how you used it in your last post? Submitted to you in Jesus' Love.

It will all tight up reading the Seveneth Day of Our Lord!

blessings,
Connie

Ok. Not sure what you mean, but I'm fine with it.

Jesus Is Real · Apr 12, 2006

Veritas said:
Ok. Not sure what you mean, but I'm fine with it.

Sorry so long of a post~
By His Grace I can say~~

By Faith in action,....God through Christ is making us Just Like His Dear Son!!!

___________________________________________________________________

PONDER TIME:
~~~Did you know that using "sarcasm" is doing sacrifice to The Amorite Nation,.....it's Pride?

Jesus said in very simple form that what's in our hearts (as certain things He had said about) is what defiles us: Those Nations on the land that God told Israel about as well.
SAME GOD!!!

We are,.....bowing down TO PRIDE--FLESH NATURE--and the ENEMIES ON THE Promised Land.

I'll explain as best as I have it so far by His Love through His Word and His Holy Spirt~

When we want to express a feeling we have, inside, but this feeling isn't very Godly, we tend to give permission for our flesh-nature to take over and we walk right in the enemies camp and go shopping--if you will.

We walk in their camp, that small area and it could even a tenny-tiny area in our heart where we grab the groceries what we need to some how make a point to others with. We walk right up to this area of in our heart and we say:

"My Amorite--Pride inside? Yeah you there,...listen up! I know you can say what I'm feeling much more better than the goodness in me that isn't thinking this at all, but since I want to go with this feeling I'll take some of your fruit for my shopping cart today please. Just that little one over there. That will do me for this one situation here."

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And then we pay him (PRIDE) for the 'sarcasm' that we take hold of: (WE MAKE A COVENANT).
And we then thank him for getting us out of the jam we felt we were in.
So we give our strength to Pride, to Satan. (BOWING DOWN TO HIM).
In all that, we have just given our lives over to Pride. Brothers/Sisters this ought not to be so, eh?

So what point did we really make due to our feelings?
An Amorite point is all we made, due to the feelings we had inside. We use it as a 'control' factor as well.

If we feel this way to even want to use sarcasm we must:

ONLY as The Holy One of Israel (Jesus Christ) brings this nation before you to admit first then do as He Has already said:

Ex 34:13
13 But ye shall destroy their altars, break their images, and cut down their groves:

A full recap of the Verse in Balance and in Context:

Ex 34:11-13
11 Observe thou that which I command thee this day: behold, I drive out before thee the Amorite, and the Canaanite, and the Hittite, and the Perizzite, and the Hivite, and the Jebusite.

12 Take heed to thyself, lest thou make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land whither thou goest, lest it be for a snare in the midst of thee:

13 But ye shall destroy their altars, break their images, and cut down their groves:
KJV

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All by Faith in Christ:

DESTROY SARCASM IN YOUR LIFE.

BREAK THEIR IMAGES IN YOUR HEART.
CUT DOWN THEIR GROVES IN YOUR HEART.

If not , for one thing, those groves keep on producing within after their own kind.

And that cloning IS NOT any good. It's very very bad-->

Our Heavenly Father,....wants us to close the curtain on these bad bugs who so want
an expression through us.

Now here's the acid test:
Rom 8:13
13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die:(((Death will work in us every time))) but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live. (((Life will work out through us and in us every time))) KJV -----> PLEASE DON'T JUST SAY YOU DO THIS,.......LOOK TO SEE IF YOUR REALLY LIVING THIS!!!

If not........just turn softly back to Our Loving Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!!
Each time we all,.....turn back to Him in areas of our lives....He always sits on a Throne of Grace towards us.......each and every time. HE SURE DOES!!!!

If God confirms this to your heart, then who GAINED YOU WAS GOD THROUGH HIS WORD.
TO GOD BE ALL THE GLORY.

ENTERING IN SABBATH DAY:
When we repent of 'sarcasm' and like: (Anger, Rage, Unforgiveness and much more - Who are Enemies on our Heart Land) we are removing (utterly putting to death Rom. 8:13-14) our own works of sin and entering into The Seveneth Day Rest of God in Christ. And we are proving to God that we are His son's and daughters. But yes .......they (the enemies on the land) must come to the surface,....in other words God alone is the only one who sets up the circumstances to bring the enemies on the land (pride-sarcasm, anger, rage and unforgiveness and the like) to being them before us so that we can utterly destroy them from off our heart-Land.

Get it.......somewhat?
Though I know this stuff from God's Word isn't understood over night....I've been studying this for 17 years now and only 2 years ago I feel that God has brought me alone finally to graps a glimps of this in His Word.

In His Peace
And taking my own land back for God's dwelling place as He leads,
Connie

See these too.......if you want~
http://www.christianforums.com/showpost.php?p=21669244&postcount=12
http://www.christianforums.com/showpost.php?p=21655788&postcount=8

UPDATED ZILLIONTH TIME TIME!!! DONE NOW:
End of the trial now~

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