Why worry about the Ten Commandments, if you are disregarding the Sabbath?

Child_of_Yahweh · Apr 9, 2006

woobadooba said:
Actually, he was referring to another Connie. See post #927

Oh....okay...LOL!

BrightCandle · Apr 10, 2006

Child_of_Yahweh said:
The Holy Bible clearly states OVER and OVER again to keep THE Seventh Day of the week as the Sabbath which is also included as the 4th of the Ten Commandments that Yahweh said to keep FOREVER.

For some reason many Christians assume that becuase Yahshua arose on Sunday (in my opinion somewhere between late Sautrday night and early Sunday morning) that the Sabbath was then "changed" to "The Lord's Day" (Sunday).

There is no evidence of this in the bible, for Yahweh santified THE Sabbath day before Yahshua was ever even concived and made it for MAN. He commanded to keep it FORVER....NOT to change it to the day that Yahshua arose.

So how did YOU come to belive it ?

A SDA co-worker at my mom's place of employment invited her to his local SDA church, and there my mom learned of the Sabbath, and over time next year, I learned of the 7th day Sabbath from my mom's witness.

I know what the Bible says regarding the Sabbath, what I was asking you, more specifically, was it just soley from personal Bible study, or was it through the witness of another Sabbath keeping person, or the reading of a book on the Sabbath, etc, etc, that first introduced you to the 7th day Sabbath?

BrightCandle · Apr 10, 2006

Oblio said:
We should put stock in writings by those who are enemies of our Lord ?

Oblio,

You missed my point. Of course we are not going to base our beliefs on what the Jews believe, but the observation that I made about the article is that scores of Evangelical leaders here in the U.S. are joining hands with the Jews regarding the promotion of the Ten Commandments here in the U.S. on
05.07.06. But, the Jews keep the 7th day Sabbath of 10 Commandments, while the EOC, Catholics, and Evangelicals don't keep the 4th Commandment as it is written, yet they are promoting all 10 as if they do honor and keep them!

Check out their Web site for more info.

http://www.tencommandmentsday.com/index.html?http://www.tencommandmentsday.com/home.html

Oblio · Apr 10, 2006

But, the Jews keep the 7th day Sabbath of 10 Commandments, while the EOC, Catholics, and Evangelicals don't keep the 4th Commandment as it is written, yet they are promoting all 10 as if they do honor and keep them!

They keep them as well as the Pharisees that Christ condemned do. IOW, not at all. They pretend to, they unplug their esspresso machines and set their elevators to shabbat mode , but they do not keep the commandment any more than we do.

Child_of_Yahweh · Apr 10, 2006

BrightCandle said:
A SDA co-worker at my mom's place of employment invited her to his local SDA church, and there my mom learned of the Sabbath, and over time next year, I learned of the 7th day Sabbath from my mom's witness.

I know what the Bible says regarding the Sabbath, what I was asking you, more specifically, was it just soley from personal Bible study, or was it through the witness of another Sabbath keeping person, or the reading of a book on the Sabbath, etc, etc, that first introduced you to the 7th day Sabbath?

You know how I became to believe in the Sabbath? When I first married my husband he kept the Sabbath...I was an avid Sunday Church goer. It was when I tried to prove him wrong that Yahweh opened my eyes one day and literally showed it to me in the bible. The same verses that I had already read for years suddenly, through prayer and study, had a completely different meaning. It is amazing the truth and knowledge you can obtain by trying to disprove someone else.

jochanaan · Apr 10, 2006

Oblio said:
We should put stock in writings by those who are enemies of our Lord ?

They are not ALL "enemies of our Lord." And even if they were, you should know as well as I do how Jesus commanded us to treat our enemies.

jochanaan · Apr 10, 2006

Child_of_Yahweh said:
...It is amazing the truth and knowledge you can obtain by trying to disprove someone else.

Yeah, the truth is hard to argue with, isn't it?

Any plans for Resurrection Sabbath? My church is doing a cantata for the morning service. Should be a great time in the LORD!

Child_of_Yahweh · Apr 10, 2006

jochanaan said:
Yeah, the truth is hard to argue with, isn't it?

Any plans for Resurrection Sabbath? My church is doing a cantata for the morning service. Should be a great time in the LORD!

We are getting together with several friends and having a "camp out" and worship together.

Redwolf · Apr 10, 2006

thereselittleflower said:
What inconsistancy?

Of all the 10 Commandments, one is included as something very peculiar between the JEWS and God . . . The Sabbath is included as a SIGN between JEWS and GOD. . .and ONLY between Jews and God . .

I am not a Jew . . .

In Christ there is neither Jew nor Gentile . . .

In Christ there is no Jew to keep the Sabbath as a sign between them and God

The rest of the Commandments were all known and understood before Mt Siani and Moses. They are the moral law God has built into our universe. The 7th Day Sabbath is not part of that moral law . . . it is a SIGN between the Jews and God . . .

For us the 10 Commandments are a reminder of God's moral law, except the 7th Day Sabbath . . we don't remove it when the 10 Commandments are displayed for it is an integral part of the heritage from which they came and reminds us of the underlying priniciple of the need to set aside time for God.

But the 7th Day Sabbath was only for the Jews as a sign, and is the ONLY commandment so designated, and is the ONLY commandment not reiterated by Christ during His earthly life.

There is no JEW in Christ . . there is no one in Christ who is required to keep the sign of the 7th Day Sabbath.

Peace

Interesting. The sabbath is a memorial of God's creation and was made for all mankind...........as in Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy....God's children are to remember it, because of what he did in the six days before and why he rested on the seventh. It has absolutely nothing to do with the Jews, other than that they, too, were to keep it holy.

Notice below what Jesus said to the pharisees.

He'd be the one who'd know for whom it was made.............and so he did.

"The Sabbath was made for man..........(Mark 2:27)

Paul kept the Sabbath day. Why? Jesus forget to tell him it's no longer valid?
Acts 17:2, 13:13, 42,44, 16:13, 18:4

Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish aught from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the Lord your God. Deut 4:2

Aside from that, the Jewish nation did not even exist until 2,500 years after the Sabbath was made.

It's inconvenient tho, eh, :o

Child_of_Yahweh · Apr 10, 2006

It amazes me how some "Christians" seem to claim that "certain" parts of the bible were directed to ONLY the Jews, while other parts that they choose are directed towards everyone who is in existence. Why is that?

woobadooba · Apr 11, 2006

Child_of_Yahweh said:
It amazes me how some "Christians" seem to claim that "certain" parts of the bible were directed to ONLY the Jews, while other parts that they choose are directed towards everyone who is in existence. Why is that?

Yeah, like only 9 of the ten commandments are for Christians, but the fourth command is only for the Jews

TruthMiner · Apr 11, 2006

woobadooba said:
Yeah, like only 9 of the ten commandments are for Christians, but the fourth command is only for the Jews

NONE of those commandments are for the Christians.

We follow Christ. Can't go wrong on that one can we?

Nightfire · Apr 11, 2006

Child_of_Yahweh said:
It amazes me how some "Christians" seem to claim that "certain" parts of the bible were directed to ONLY the Jews, while other parts that they choose are directed towards everyone who is in existence. Why is that?

You mean, like those who distinguish between the "law of Moses" and the "law of God"? It leaves one to wonder who the Jews thought Moses' laws came from.

Cliff2 · Apr 11, 2006

Nightfire said:
You mean, like those who distinguish between the "law of Moses" and the "law of God"? It leaves one to wonder who the Jews thought Moses' laws came from.

All the laws in the Bible come from God.

There are ten that God wrote and those ten have never been done away with.

woobadooba · Apr 11, 2006

TruthMiner said:
NONE of those commandments are for the Christians.

We follow Christ. Can't go wrong on that one can we?

Yes, we follow Christ, but not blindly!

You should know that it was Christ (God) who gave us those commandments, and that to just simply say you believe in Him is not enough.

James spent a good deal of time emphasizing the idea that faith without works is dead.

Now then, does this mean we are saved by God's grace and our works? No. What it means is that we are only saved by God's grace, but that if we are to live the life that His grace calls us to, we will keep His commandments, because they are righteous, and God has called us to righteousness.

This explains why the Bible says,

"This calls for patient endurance on the part of the saints who obey God's commandments and remain faithful to Jesus." Rev. 14:12

Thus the commandments, as well as the faith, are not merely for the Jews, but for anyone who believes in Jesus Christ.

Child_of_Yahweh · Apr 11, 2006

TruthMiner said:
NONE of those commandments are for the Christians.

We follow Christ.
Can't go wrong on that one can we?

QUOTE: NONE of those commandments are for the christians.
RESPONSE: So murder,adultery,etc. are all okay then?

QUOTE: We follow Christ.
RESPONSE: hhhhhhmmmmmmm....didn't He keep the ten commandements?

woobadooba · Apr 11, 2006

Child_of_Yahweh · Apr 11, 2006

woobadooba said:
I realise that you were just adding your thoughts to Truthminer's post in your quote--Post#960, but it is important that we quote exactly what people say without adding anything to it.

Someone might think that that is what he said in its totality, when he really didn't say it.

It is best just to make a comment outside of the quote rather than adding something to it.

Please edit.

Done!

ThreeAM · Apr 11, 2006

Child_of_Yahweh said:
QUOTE: NONE of those commandments are for the christians.
RESPONSE: So murder,adultery,etc. are all okay then?

QUOTE: We follow Christ.
RESPONSE: hhhhhhmmmmmmm....didn't He keep the ten commandements?

Jesus Is Real · Apr 11, 2006

Cliff2 said:
All the laws in the Bible come from God.

There are ten that God wrote and those ten have never been done away with.

And it takes 10 fingers to help with anothers burden,.....use them and this does fulfill God's Whole Law. Work your patience (that God has given you) through your 10 fingers in His Kind of Love.

This is why the Pharisees wanted to kill Christ~ because they had not The Love of God in them to love their neighbor with,....they were so religious and missing God (in the flesh) and others all together (in the flesh). They were so caught up with how they were so right in God's eyes while they were worshipping God with their lips,....but their heart was far from Him and their conduct with others showed. They did not preach about the Love of God to their neighbor,...they stopped being the example to the flock. We all did. So Christ HAD TO COME. And show us how it's done. You DIE to the flesh nature as the Holy Spirit leads - only as He leads. So that we can love others aright,....even when it hurts or causes an affliction. ~wounds of a friend~

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